Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

[jefferz]

Amazon Prime day fucking blows. What a miscarriage of advertising. Total joke. Best sale I've seen so far, hands down, was the $73 sale at Best Buy for a 1TB Crucial P2 NVMe SSD (already sold out, obviously).

Otherwise, best sale I've seen on Amazon is easily this:
($53) Rosewill CULLINAN MX ATX Mid Tower Case

Debuted at an MSRP of $149 (too high). Case is $115 on Newegg, currently. The lowest sale it has ever seen on Newegg is $60, and the lowest it has been in the past year is $85. It had never been below $90 on Amazon until just this May when it hit $80 on May-11-2021, and has notched increasingly better sales culminating in today's price.

PCPP page:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3p3H99/rosewill-cullinan-mx-atx-mid-tower-case-cullinan-mx

Averages 4.5* out of 755 customer reviews on Amazon, and 4.01* out of 488 customer reviews on Newegg page (shared score for all Cullinan models).
Tech Reviews:

• https://www.build-gaming-computers.com/rosewill-cullinan-mx.html (this page nicely summarizes the finding from the two reviews linked below)
• https://www.techpowerup.com/review/rosewill-cullinan-mx/
• https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8416/rosewill-cullinan-mx-mid-tower-chassis-review/index.html

Layout is highly similar to original Cullinan which scored phenomenal thermals with GN:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...inan-case-review-vs-anidees-ai-crystal/page-2

This is as low a price for a case that comes with 4x120mm fans at stock you will ever see (and these are RGB, no less).

I have that Rosewill case. The metal part of the case definitely doesn't feel like a $149 case, more like a $60 case. It's a cheap case with tempered glass attached to it. If it had an acrylic panel, 4 black fans, and a plastic mesh front it would be a good value at $60. $53 with double glass side panels is a great deal. The glass is nice and thick, comparable to a PC-011 Dynamic.
The fans are really cheap, I wouldn't expect any of them to be working in 2 years. At least one will be dead in a year. They weigh next to nothing and the plastic frame feels cheap. They feel worse than the normal fans that come with budget cases.
A cosmetic gripe is that the cutout for the 24 pin isn't parallel with the socket on motherboards so if you have sleeved cables they have to go at an angle.
Spending $17 more will get you into a Lian Li Lancool 215 for $70. It will have a better build quality overall and it performed well in GN tests. If you need a $53 case, that Rosewill is a great deal but if you can stretch the budget a little bit more you can get a much better product imo.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Amazon Prime day fucking blows. What a miscarriage of advertising. Total joke. Best sale I've seen so far, hands down, was the $73 sale at Best Buy for a 1TB Crucial P2 NVMe SSD (already sold out, obviously).

 

[Gregolian]

Got bored and looked at PreBuilt sights. All of them giving estimates of August 17 with 2 more weeks tacked on if you want a GPU. Christ.

At least by then I might be able to afford even a 3080 on the secondary market at like 250% mark up lol.

 

[WhiteMousse]

Got bored and looked at PreBuilt sights. All of them giving estimates of August 17 with 2 more weeks tacked on if you want a GPU. Christ.

At least by then I might be able to afford even a 3080 on the secondary market at like 250% mark up lol.

GPU's are seriously coming down. I know it sucks man. I saw you and @rob mafia have 1070's, I'm not doing much better with a 1080 so I feel your pain. But like he said new sockets are just around the corner.

 

[Gregolian]

GPU's are seriously coming down. I know it sucks man. I saw you and @rob mafia have 1070's, I'm not doing much better with a 1080 so I feel your pain. But like he said new sockets are just around the corner.

I'm really on the fence about what to do with my PC. It somehow can run CyberPunk at like 40 FPS (with drops in there to sub 30) on high but I am tryign to get more into PC gaming instead of console and want to do like a full upgrade.

I'll PROBABLY buy a new motherboard and AMD chip (like a 5800x or something with an ROG Strix mobo) and then just sit on those and slowly buy out parts then just gut my current case and then "refill" it with the new parts. I have a nice NZXT case so the case is more than still usable.

Then, take my old parts and get a smaller case to mount the mini board in and then turn it into a HTPC.

I would love to be on the bleeding edge with a CPU but at the same time I know there's a benefit to NOT being on the bleeding edge.. ie... I'm not competing with miners and shit for the CPU and sockets for them.

 

[Madmick]

I have that Rosewill case. The metal part of the case definitely doesn't feel like a $149 case, more like a $60 case. It's a cheap case with tempered glass attached to it. If it had an acrylic panel, 4 black fans, and a plastic mesh front it would be a good value at $60. $53 with double glass side panels is a great deal. The glass is nice and thick, comparable to a PC-011 Dynamic.
The fans are really cheap, I wouldn't expect any of them to be working in 2 years. At least one will be dead in a year. They weigh next to nothing and the plastic frame feels cheap. They feel worse than the normal fans that come with budget cases.
A cosmetic gripe is that the cutout for the 24 pin isn't parallel with the socket on motherboards so if you have sleeved cables they have to go at an angle.
Spending $17 more will get you into a Lian Li Lancool 215 for $70. It will have a better build quality overall and it performed well in GN tests. If you need a $53 case, that Rosewill is a great deal but if you can stretch the budget a little bit more you can get a much better product imo.

I know. I recalled.

Rosewill Cullinan MX ATX tempered glass case with 4 blue led fans for $55.25. I personally own this case and I'd highly recommend it at that price.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811147259?Item=N82E16811147259

 

[rob mafia]

I'm really on the fence about what to do with my PC. It somehow can run CyberPunk at like 40 FPS (with drops in there to sub 30) on high but I am tryign to get more into PC gaming instead of console and want to do like a full upgrade.

I'll PROBABLY buy a new motherboard and AMD chip (like a 5800x or something with an ROG Strix mobo) and then just sit on those and slowly buy out parts then just gut my current case and then "refill" it with the new parts. I have a nice NZXT case so the case is more than still usable.

Then, take my old parts and get a smaller case to mount the mini board in and then turn it into a HTPC.

I would love to be on the bleeding edge with a CPU but at the same time I know there's a benefit to NOT being on the bleeding edge.. ie... I'm not competing with miners and shit for the CPU and sockets for them.

the CPUs are easy. i could get them at or below msrp literally any day for the last... many months.

it's just the GPUs that have been fucking everything. crypto's been down, hopefully the trend continues. amd should also be getting increased wafers starting next month, but GPUs are low priority. nvidia's been pumping out more in the last few weeks than... well, a while. but that probably had more to do with the new launches than a sign of increased supply.

 

[Gregolian]

the CPUs are easy. i could get them at or below msrp literally any day for the last... many months.

it's just the GPUs that have been fucking everything. crypto's been down, hopefully the trend continues. amd should also be getting increased wafers starting next month, but GPUs are low priority. nvidia's been pumping out more in the last few weeks than... well, a while. but that probably had more to do with the new launches than a sign of increased supply.

I hope crypto doesn't tank as I have a little bit but at the same time I want miners to go away.

I see CPU's and shit available for purchase online but the prices sometimes are a tad... wtf.

 

[Madmick]

Anyone buy anything?

I scoured the electronics Prime Day deals, and nothing seized me. The only really good sales I saw in electronics were Prime-exclusive, and almost all of the compelling ones were on monitors. Saw an LG 29" Ultrawide with Freesync for under $200. First time I think I've ever seen that. But easily the big winner has been the LG 27GL83A-B for $284. As soon as I saw that yesterday I knew when the bestseller list refreshed this morning after midnight it would be #1. Probably the next best I've seen is the LG 32" UltraGear 32GN600 for $250 at Wal-Mart.

I hope crypto doesn't tank as I have a little bit but at the same time I want miners to go away.

I see CPU's and shit available for purchase online but the prices sometimes are a tad... wtf.

Huh? Prices on CPUs have been great, and there have been plenty of sales. The i7-10700K is $247 on Amazon right now (Prime Day deal). Prices have been pretty much great on everything except GPUs and PSUs.

If you know you're going AMD and you have your heart set on an Asus ROG Strix board there's no better time than the next 10 hours to jump:
($138) Asus ROG STRIX B550-F

Newegg had it for $140, once, last December, and otherwise has offered intermittent sales of $160 (the best of any officially authorized retailers). It's never been better than that $160 since release on Amazon via third-party sellers, and it's never been below $178 from Amazon directly before yesterday.

 

[Gregolian]

Anyone buy anything?

I scoured the electronics Prime Day deals, and nothing seized me. The only really good sales I saw in electronics were Prime-exclusive, and almost all of the compelling ones were on monitors. Saw an LG 29" Ultrawide with Freesync for under $200. First time I think I've ever seen that. But easily the big winner has been the LG 27GL83A-B for $284. As soon as I saw that yesterday I knew when the bestseller list refreshed this morning after midnight it would be #1. Probably the next best I've seen is the LG 32" UltraGear 32GN600 for $250 at Wal-Mart.

Huh? Prices on CPUs have been great, and there have been plenty of sales. The i7-10700K is $247 on Amazon right now (Prime Day deal). Prices have been pretty much great on everything except GPUs and PSUs.

If you know you're going AMD and you have your heart set on an Asus ROG Strix board there's no better time than the next 10 hours to jump:
($138) Asus ROG STRIX B550-F

Newegg had it for $140, once, last December, and otherwise has offered intermittent sales of $160 (the best of any officially authorized retailers). It's never been better than that $160 since release on Amazon via third-party sellers, and it's never been below $178 from Amazon directly before yesterday.

I'm not dead set on anything right now as this is stuff I was likely going to spend a part of the summer fiddling with.

My biggest thing about ASUS is I have had two ASUS laptops and one of them lasted me almost 10 years before it started BSOD0-ing so I trust their stuff. My current monitor is from the TUF line.

I know ROG is their flagship line so to speak but I have no qualms about building on a TUF board as I have no complaints about their TUF line.

 

[jefferz]

I know. I recalled.

As you can see that post is 2 years old and I've swapped the build configuration in that case a couple of times so I have some long term experience with it.
If you're still using something like Sandy or Ivy Bridge in an Antec Three Hundred or Rosewill Challenger and want to get into a tempered glass RGB fan case for cheap, I say go for it. If building new, I'd personally spend that extra $17 for the Lian Li Lancool 215. Since 2019 new products have been introduced into the market that offer more for the money compared to 2 years ago.

 

[Madmick]

Meh, I'd take the Silverstone FARA R1 at $62 (& add a second Arctic 120mm PWM fan for $9) over the LANCOOL 215 at $70, personally.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Tempered-Mid-Tower-Micro-ATX/dp/B085KLGP8C/

*Edit*
Hmm, wait a minute, I might have spoke too soon. I know everyone buys these cases for liquid coolers, these days, but my personal grievance with the LANCOOL 215 was the CPU cooler support only goes up to 160mm as quoted by Newegg (which would prohibit most of the best value air coolers under $50 like the Reeven Justice, FSP Windale 6, Thermalright True Spirit Direct, Scythe Ashura, & Thermalright Macho Rev. B). But I double-checked this at Lian Li's own website, and it quotes a 166mm clearance.

 

[jefferz]

Meh, I'd take the Silverstone FARA R1 at $62 (& add a second Arctic 120mm PWM fan for $9) over the LANCOOL 215 at $70, personally.
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Tempered-Mid-Tower-Micro-ATX/dp/B085KLGP8C/

*Edit*
Hmm, wait a minute, I might have spoke too soon. I know everyone buys these cases for liquid coolers, these days, but my personal grievance with the LANCOOL 215 was the CPU cooler support only goes up to 160mm as quoted by Newegg (which would prohibit most of the best value air coolers under $50 like the Reeven Justice, FSP Windale 6, Thermalright True Spirit Direct, Scythe Ashura, & Thermalright Macho Rev. B). But I double-checked this at Lian Li's own website, and it quotes a 166m clearance.

I went with the Lancool because I was trying to find something with RGB fans . You can get the Corsair 4000D for $65. Or an NZXT H510 for $67.43. Like I said above, a little bit more money will get you a better case.

 

[PEB]

My friend a crypto nut an good at predicting things says used 30x0 should show up on ebay at retail in less then a month an below 30 to 50 percent lower then retail by August. He says people who bought it at double the price the last month are going regret it big time.

 

[Gregolian]

My friend a crypto nut an good at predicting things says used 30x0 should show up on ebay at retail in less then a month an below 30 to 50 percent lower then retail by August. He says people who bought it at double the price the last month are going regret it big time.

Why would they start showing up on Ebay though? Miners offloading them for different cards?

 

[method115]

Why would they start showing up on Ebay though? Miners offloading them for different cards?

Most likely miners backing out for now and selling their cards at the highest point possible while they still can.

 

[Gregolian]

Most likely miners backing out for now and selling their cards at the highest point possible while they still can.

Tempted to try and get a 3090 then........ hrm......

IDK, computer components I am always worried buying used parts cause I have no idea what someone has done to it like trying to overclock it and fucking it up.

 

[method115]

Tempted to try and get a 3090 then........ hrm......

IDK, computer components I am always worried buying used parts cause I have no idea what someone has done to it like trying to overclock it and fucking it up.

Yea when I first started building PCs I would always get a used video card. The amount of money you could save was to good to pass up. This was before Newegg started allowing everyone to sell on their store. These days it seems like to much of a risk.

 

[Gregolian]

Yea when I first started building PCs I would always get a used video card. The amount of money you could save was to good to pass up. This was before Newegg started allowing everyone to sell on their store. These days it seems like to much of a risk.

If I were to buy used I'd prefer to go through like NewEgg or Amazon. I know you can still get screwed but at least I would FEEL more comfortable than like Craigslist or eBay.

 

[method115]

If I were to buy used I'd prefer to go through like NewEgg or Amazon. I know you can still get screwed but at least I would FEEL more comfortable than like Craigslist or eBay.

I don't think Ebay is so bad because they are always on the buyers side. To the point that I'm scared to sell anything on that site because I don't want to get screwed. I had one guy claim a mobo I sent him didn't work even though I tested the whole system before I sent it to him. So I said that's find just send it back and I'll refund you. Never heard from him again. If you have issues with the GPU I firmly believe Ebay will back you and give you your money back. At worst you'll have to pay to send it back.