Television Game of Thrones S08E06 Discussion Thread: Burn them all! (the writing staff) | Our Watch has ended

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Go watch Evil Dead's serie. Suits more for a sherdogger.
 
My biggest problem with this episode is actually Tyrions explanation to Jon

That sounded like the writers having a conversation with us through Tyrion and Jon. They explained the Danys fall through that scene
And they made a critique of the audience who cheered "yass queen" whenever Dany said dracarys

But what he said in that scene doesn't actually reflect what happened in the show
Her advisors were split when she crucified the masters
People were afraid when she killed the Khals in the show they bent to her power
There were no cheers

That could have been an awesome bit of dialogue if Danys fall was cleverly depectied, but they showed it as her flipping the switch. We didn't cheer as she slowly descended into madness. We cheered as she did bad things for good reasons, but her transition from that to mass murderer of innocents was so accelerated that no one really had a chance to react

That exchange showed what this story shows have been. But it came off awkward because of what the story actually was
 
Tyrion: Jon kill your misses
Jon: lol k
 
LuchaBear said:
Wise Masters of Yunkai > Iron Bank

Son's of Harpy > Golden Company



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Everything here is a can of the highest order except the Iron Bank. Even Bran has a price.
 
MTT said:
The dragons are made out to be similar of intelligence to a domesticated dog - very good at carrying out commands and share a vague emotional connection with their rider. To think a dragon was making a political statement by burning the throne or somehow knew an inanimate object never before seen was the reason for Dany's death in an abstract way is ridiculous but so is the season as a whole... ridiculously bad. Where in the books or previous episodes did the dragons display this capability? It was a huge leap to arrive at what happened last night.
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I think the dragons were shown to be a bit more switched on than a domesticated dog, but yeah, no doubt it was a bit of a stretch to think it was that smart. There really is no other reason for the dragon to not kill Jon and for it to melt the throne other than that it understood.

The story and writing had fallen apart seasons ago, though, so I was fine with it. Even the absolutely stupid scene with Tyrion, Bronn and Co. at the table didn't bother me. The show had left the rails long ago so it just didn't matter if they wanted to try comedy.
 
HHJ said:
Everything here is a can of the highest order except the Iron Bank. Even Bran has a price.
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The Iron Bank and Bravos are full of cans. Even the Faceless Cans let Arya go because they're cans.
 
brokenjaw said:
It's almost as if I'm not a professional script writer.
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That's not a script though its a basic story idea, "Cersei kills Dany sneakily during neogiations and then the Starks and co defeat her" not exactly the most interesting story for me, what we got had vastly more depth to it.
 
moreorless87 said:
Thank god your not writing the show, the first idea is IMHO awefully bland.

Goes back to what I was saying previously that actually a lot of the criticism here isn't in agreement at all, some people wanted more simplistic heroism, others wanted more cynical realism.
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Whatever your opinion is, that's the logical chain of events. The show establishes Khaleesi as a vengful Mad Queen in the making and Cersei as a ruthless, heartless, dirty playing bitch. What good did it bring She-Hitler for going head on to Euron and not doing anything? What good did it bring Cersei for not killing her main competiton to the Iron Throne that also happens to have a fire breathing dragon?

What sense does it make for a vengful character to not seek vengence immediatly? What sense does it make for a ruthless, selfish bitch to gloat in front of her enemy WITHOUT killing them instantnly?
 
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moreorless87 said:
That's not a script though its a basic story idea, "Cersei kills Dany sneakily during neogiations and then the Starks and co defeat her" not exactly the most interesting story for me, what we got had vastly more depth to it.
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It's not really sneaking if she came with everything she had in front of Cersi's door and went "kneel or die" . She was out in the open with a hand full of soldiers. Cersei had a clear shot at the dragon the crew and the blonde. Had Cersei sad "you got to the count of five to surrender or die" Khaleesi wouldn't really have any chance. Even if she voice commanded her dragon to attack, Cersei opens up a rain of arrows and harpoons on her ass the second she opens her mouth. End threat.
 
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brokenjaw said:
Whatever your opinion is, that's the logical chain of events. The show establishes Khaleesi as a vengful Mad Queen in the making and Cersei as a ruthless, heartless, dirty playing bitch. What good did it bring She-Hitler for going head on to Euron and not doing anything? What good did it bring Cersei for not killing her main competiton to the Iron Throne that also happens to have a fire breathing dragon?

What sense does it make for a vengful character to not seek vengence immediatly? What sense does it make for a ruthless, selfish bitch to gloat instead of taking action and eliminating her enemy?
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A vengeful character doesn't have to lose reason entirely and she gets even more reason to be vengeful after that point.

I mean I think if you look at the show in fine detail yes you can pick logical holes in it but that's always been the case, its never been some ultra realistic depiction of fantasy even if it does have some realistic elements to it.
 
i think the show is gonna age better once the shippers/fanfic writers get a hold of themselves

with that said i think the right things happened for the most part even if some of the execution was pretty mediocre

still with how these last few seasons have been GOT isnt anywhere near a GOAT level show and thats okay. Still a fun ride.

Hopefully Euron does some crazy shit in the books to lead up to the ending with all of whats been built up for him
 
The fade to black after Danys death should have been the last scene
 
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