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Gagging for it (SCO Thread v. 29) Update Mueller Report Released

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I wondered why he randomly approached reporters the other day saying "no collusion, no collusion". He probably knew this was coming
 
Very comprehensive and only a select few have seen it. Principal conclusions can be shared with Congress as soon as this weekend.

Simon Prokupez suggests the report doesn't have confidential stuff which would enable a quicker release of conclusions of the report. Gloria suggests Mueller knew the report would eventually get out so pre-scrubbed out any confidential details similar to the way the indictments were written.

I suspect Honorable Mueller wrote the report in a way that bad actors cannot justify fucking with it, omitting portions, or claiming executive privilege.

Cutiepie Laura Jarrett reports Honorable Mueller does not recommend any further indictments from him, but not necessarily anything on the other US attorneys. I'm wondering if sealed indictment already a done deal. She was told "none" when asked if any sealed indictments are coming down the pipe. I'm guessing if there were, it would defeat the purpose of sealing them so of course they'll deny they exist.

Simon suggests FBI will continue to investigate the numerous "curious connections".
 
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Manafort was shilling for the Russians, for years, and was involved with a person suspected to be a Russian operative. Since he was shilling for them, common sense would dictate that Manafort had contact with Russia and received directions/advice/guidance etc..That looks an awful lot like collusion.
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When he was a campaign manager had a meeting with a Russian agent where he brought his campaign deputy and a bunch of proprietary polling information. Later he and the Russian agent got popped for witness tampering based on what someone knew of their interactions. I don't think the fact he was a Russian lobbyist is important based on the known facts. The most parsimonious case is that he was arraigning or requesting help from the Russian national, whether or not it can be proven to a legal standard.

It's like if my mom walks in on preteen me with my weiner in my hand, lotion on the table, raincoat fetish porn on the 28.8 kbps, and I say 'no you can't prove I was beating my meat bc I wasn't stroking, who knows, I could have been scratching an itch or just had to pee really bad'
 
The Muller Report is being unleashed.
Who else wants the mega burger thread reopened for such a historic moment in light of the amount of energy, speculation and prophesy that went into this moment?

It's like speculation before a major mma fight and both sides be able to go back and repost positions before the fight.

Let's do this.

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...rand-jury-edition-fbi-raids-manafort.3589787/

Russia Collusion megathread v8: Royale w/cheese Grand Jury Edition (FBI raids Manafort)

  1. I lose track of the plethora of Trumpers on this forum. Is Shoeless Rye, in fact, a "Trump humper"?

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    That is a tasty burger!

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    It's interesting. The witnesses testify without their lawyers even present, and there is no "defense" to cross examine the witnesses, though the jurors can ask the witness questions.

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    I lose track of the plethora of Trumpers on this forum. Is Shoeless Rye, in fact, a "Trump humper"?
    A Royale with Cheese is the exact opposite of a nothingburger.

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    Ken Starr says no to "fishing expedition" -


    Ken Starr who started out investigating Bill Clinton for Whitewater and ended up indicting him with a semen stain on a blue dress.

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    Ken Starr says no to "fishing expedition" -


    Ken Starr who started out investigating Bill Clinton for Whitewater and ended up indicting him with a semen stain on a blue dress.
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    That guy was always the hackiest of hacks. Whitewater was a total bullshit scandal.

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    A Royale with Cheese is the exact opposite of a nothingburger.
    All I need to know.

    *Chucknorristhumbsup*

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    Click on tweet to read 50 reply tweet storm spelling out exactly what Trump is facing now.
    Bob Mueller Is Using a Grand Jury. Here’s What It Means.
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ury-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-215458

    A grand jury, which consists of 16 to 23 people, is an important tool that allows prosecutors to issue subpoenas that require people to produce documents and other evidence. Subpoenas can also be used to compel people to testify under oath before the grand jury. You can expect Mueller and his team to issue many subpoenas in the months ahead.

    Because grand jury subpoenas are an important prosecutorial tool, typically a grand jury is impaneled at the very beginning of an investigation, not at the end. Indictments are usually sought at the very end of an investigation, after all of the witnesses are questioned and all of the documents are obtained. So despite all the punditry on cable news, there’s no suggestion here that Mueller is closing in on any particular target, such as the president. In all likelihood, he’s just getting started.

    It is possible, though, that as a starting point Mueller will eventually seek an indictment of a lower-level figure in or around Trump’s campaign. Sometimes, when prosecutors are facing obstacles in obtaining evidence, they seek an indictment of one individual or a group of individuals prior to completing their investigation, if they believe that those individuals might cooperate with the government and provide evidence. Otherwise, decisions about who to charge are left to the very end of the investigation.
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    One quirk of grand juries could be significant. When a witness testifies under oath before the grand jury, no one else is permitted to be present other than the prosecutor and the grand jurors. The witness is not even allowed to have a lawyer present, and the normal rules of evidence that limit questioning in a trial do not apply. For that reason, when witnesses receive a grand jury subpoena, their lawyer often asks the prosecutor to agree to permit the witness to be interviewed by the prosecutor and an FBI agent with the lawyer present. The FBI agent’s presence would make it a crime to lie during the interview—creating the risk of Trump or one of his associates committing a crime through their words—but the lawyer would be present and could assist the witness.

    That said, interviews are not typically transcribed, even though the FBI agent prepares a report memorializing the interview. For that reason, when it is important for a prosecutor to pin down a witness’s testimony, the prosecutor will insist that the witness testify under oath before the grand jury. For example, President Bill Clinton testified before a grand jury in the investigation by independent counsel Kenneth Starr—who later accused Clinton of providing “perjurious, false and misleading testimony,” leading to his impeachment by the Republican-led House of Representatives.
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    That said, Thursday’s news is not surprising. Mueller has already hired 16 prosecutors—some of the most accomplished investigators ever assembled on one team. These are people with deep skills and experience in prosecuting cases on money laundering, campaign finance violations and foreign bribery, as well as a sophisticated understanding of how to handle sprawling, complex investigations like this one. If any crimes were committed, they’re likely to find out.

    The evidence in the public domain was already enough to warrant an investigation, which is why Mueller was appointed in the first place. Now, the existence of a grand jury confirms what many of us presumed, which is that Mueller is conducting a wide-ranging criminal investigation. What we don’t know is what, if anything, it will uncover.

    Renato Mariotti is a former federal prosecutor who handled many obstruction cases. He is now a partner at Thompson Coburn LLP.
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    Turns out the Trumpers strategy of saying nothingburger all day and pretending the evidence of the trump campaign's collusion didn't exist blew up in their faces after a few weeks. Who saw that coming? Derp!
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    A Royale with Cheese is the exact opposite of a nothingburger.
    "Do you know why the call that?"
    Brad: "because of collusion.?"

    Check out this video on YouTube:


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Literally Hitler...oh wait wrong thread. It's cool it's out, but it's only the beginning with many more investigations ahead.
 
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I've been refreshing my news tabs every 30 seconds for the last 2 years. Coincidentally, by pure happenstance, I came across this strange story:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mu...ted-russia-probe-report-to-justice-department

Mueller submits long-awaited Russia probe report to Justice Department



And so it was written.

Literally, it was written, and it's now it's been submitted.

Looks like this is the end of any "Russian Collusion" allegations. ...Or is it?

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This was it?!
 
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So now when it comes out that Trump didn't collude with Russia, is CNN going to tell us it's illegal to read the Mueller report?

That we should all ignore it and take their word for it that Trump's a Russian agent?

Maybe Mueller is working for Russia as well?
 
Here's the thread i'm sure we're all patiently waiting for

 
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