Gagging for it (SCO Thread v. 29) Update Mueller Report Released

[andnowweknow]

He said Manafort, ""Had otherwise lived a blameless life.".

Just baffling.

Other than lying, cheating and stealing his whole life, he was a good dude.

Stone is assured time served, plus reparations.

 

[Lead]

He said Manafort, ""Had otherwise lived a blameless life.".

Just baffling.

Yea, she was getting mad at just the slightest cryptic line he'd make during the hearings so this is going to set her off.

 

[BarryDillon]

Other than lying, cheating and stealing his whole life, he was a good dude.

Stone is assured time served, plus reparations.

Just working for autocrats who murder protestors. No big deal.

 

[Limbo Pete]

He said of Manafort, "He has lived an otherwise blameless life.".

Just baffling.

Pretty sure the cream in my tea went sour reading that
Blech

 

[syct23]

Yea, I kept hearing he was going for what essentially would be the rest of his life. One problem however is he split his trials so I believe he still has a second sentencing. Not sure if he's allowed to serve them overlapping or they add time to the original term.

Yeah his next case is coming up,

That's why I only gave my guess for this case ...

Still could get another 4-5 years on the next, and I guess you could call that a life sentence.

For his age...

 

[Lead]

Yeah his next case is coming up,

That's why I only gave my guess for this case ...

Still could get another 4-5 years on the next, and I guess you could call that a life sentence.

For his age...

Do we know if he can serve them overlapping or if they are additional years?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Seriously, wtf.

At least they seized his assets.

He still has millions in assets. Fucking guy like that deserves to spend the rest of his life alone in a cell.

Then again, this isn't the only case he's involved in. Still on the hook in another investigation, apparently.

 

[new_mexico1]

I think the other case can get him up to 10 years

 

[andnowweknow]

Do we know if he can serve them overlapping or if they are additional years?

If they nail him with 10 or so on the others, it's still basically a life sentence. He wont survive 10 years in jail.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Do we know if he can serve them overlapping or if they are additional years?

You'd have to ask a guy like @Quipling, @panamaican, @Trotsky or @Darkballs to be certain... but i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be served concurrently

 

[waiguoren]

Judge wants to give him 9 months for time already served as well. Fucking disgusting.

Why is that 'disgusting'?

 

[Joe]

The guy defrauded the government, lied to the court and expressed no remorse then the judge kisses his ass? Wtf.

 

[waiguoren]

You'd have to ask a guy like @Quipling, @panamaican, @Trotsky or @Darkballs to be certain... but i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be served concurrently

@Trotsky and @Darkballs are as much lawyers as I am. The only people here I actually think are lawyers are @BKMMAFAN and @Quipling .

 

[Darkballs]

You'd have to ask a guy like @Quipling, @panamaican, @Trotsky or @Darkballs to be certain... but i'm pretty sure they wouldn't be served concurrently

Pretty sure it's up to the discretion of the court, unless otherwise indicated by statute for the later charges.

Haven't been paying enough attention to see where Manafort's other charges are being tried in.

 

[Darkballs]

@Trotsky and @Darkballs are as much lawyers as I am. The only people here I actually think are lawyers are @BKMMAFAN and @Quipling .

Gotten to.

 

[Limbo Pete]

@Trotsky and @Darkballs are as much lawyers as I am. The only people here I actually think are lawyers are @BKMMAFAN and @Quipling .

 

[Limbo Pete]

Pretty sure it's up to the discretion of the court, unless otherwise indicated by statute for the later charges.

Haven't been paying enough attention to see where Manafort's other charges are being tried in.

Fair enough
That's why you're the law talkin guy

 

[new_mexico1]

Pretty sure it's up to the discretion of the court, unless otherwise indicated by statute for the later charges.

Haven't been paying enough attention to see where Manafort's other charges are being tried in.

D.C.

 

[BarryDillon]

Why is that 'disgusting'?

Manafort is a scumbag career criminal, and he got a sweetheart deal. I'm not saying time served is a bad concept, but based on his conduct he doesn't deserve that consideration.

He was in jail for violating the terms of his bail, including fucking witness tampering. Oh, he also lied and violated a plea agreement after signing it. He hadn't started serving his sentence for his original crimes yet.

 

[waiguoren]

Hannity: You have talked about criminalizing political differences. This is worse than I've ever seen it.

Dershowitz: Well, it's not worse than I've ever seen it. I lived through the McCarthy period when Congress used its oversight function to go after people, some innocent and some guilty. Look, Congress has a legitimate oversight function to perform but it has to make sure it doesn't go too far. It can't use that oversight function---which is really designed to help get legislation---in order to really prevent a president from finishing out his terms and acting. They are interfering with the executive branch if they do so. A balance has to be struck between a legitimate function of Congress to investigate....The framers didn't intend for Congress to become yet another prosecutorial branch, yet another investigative branch. They are supposed to pass laws and so it seems to me these investigations look like they are going too far.

....

Hannity: ....I don't think think this a good thing politically for Democrats.

Dershowitz: No, I don't either, and in fact there is some legal recourse. If you go back to the cases in the 1950s, the courts sometimes did say, look, Congress, you've gone too far. This is not within your legitimate function. If I were one of the people who got a letter or a subpoena, I would at least think of the possibility of bringing a lawsuit and suggesting that Congress is abusing its oversight function.