Fury and Wilder made 25x more than all ufc 270 fighter combined

The UFC is a professional MMA fight promotion just like Top Rank is a professional Boxing promotion. The UFC's owners are promoters for MMA fights whereas Top Rank has Bob Arum as founder/CEO and promoter. Both UFC and Boxing Promotion pay for promoting the event and they both pay the fighters on the fight card.

UFC Promotion keeps 80 - 85% of total revenue
Boxing Promotions keep 15 - 25% of total revenue

UFC Fighters get paid 15 - 20% of the total revenue
Boxing Fighters get paid 75 - 85% of total revenue

The only people on here that see nothing wrong with the UFC business practice are the UFC paid shills that have multiple accounts on this site.
 
Lmfao dishonest as fuck to look at the 3rd fight of a legendary and massive trilogy's purses compared to their 1st fight, which is the equivalent here for Ngannou/Gane.

I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence that he didn't use THOSE numbers, which were $4M Wilder and $3M Fury. Which is COMBINED what Ngannou says he turned down rather than re-sign with the UFC as champion. Something they also don't mention that he's willingly still on his pre-championship pay.

So weird right?
 
markg171 said:
Lmfao dishonest as fuck to look at the 3rd fight of a legendary and massive trilogy's purses compared to their 1st fight, which is the equivalent here for Ngannou/Gane.

I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence that he didn't use THOSE numbers, which were $4M Wilder and $3M Fury. Which is COMBINED what Ngannou says he turned down rather than re-sign with the UFC as champion. Something they also don't mention that he's willingly still on his pre-championship pay.

So weird right?
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So now your posting on Sherdog Dana ... What a lil bitch
 
Hardshins said:
So now your posting on Sherdog Dana ... What a lil bitch
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If you have to knowingly and dishonestly lie to make your point, then your point isn't very good.

Reporter could've tried to honestly compare the two by using the actual equivalent which was Fury/Wilder I, but instead dishonestly chose Fury/Wilder 3 which was big because of the previous two fights. He still could've "made his point" using the 1st fight in that both of them got purses there bigger than the 270 card, but didn't. Because it would've been less.

That's the "lil bitch" here.
 
no doubt... the thing is boxing still sells much more worldwide than mma... at least here in Mx everybody watches or knows Fury, Mayweather, GGG, Wilder, Joshua and of course Canelo... but stoped going at bars cause they doesnt know who Cain (when he was champion), Jair, Ortega, Cejudo or Moreno are, so you get a small corner table in front of a small tv with no fights sound cause everybody else is watchin some europe B league soccer match in the big screens.
And forget about someone buying a ufc ppv ever.
 
The problem with these stupid arguments is you claim a lack of talent cause of money yet want to pay 'talentless' fighters more.

It's stupid.

And if any ufc fighter is crying about it then go make it in boxing.

.... like Woodley.
 
SG123 said:
If the margins are that large and there is far more room to pay fighters a then it would be straight forward for competitions to grow and eat into the UFC market share by doing exactly that.

It doesn’t happen because the margins aren’t as big as is made out.
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That's like saying "anyone should just start another NBA or NFL". UFC is an established juggernaut with a built in brand. You need serious start up capital to get something off the ground and the big thing is having the political clout and avoiding the UFC's insane political connectiveness from drowning you before you get off the ground. Just look at Mark Hunt, who said that he has been black listed, and he is just a little over the hill fighter. There is alot we do not know about that goes on behind the scenes, but see Pride, where the Yakuza were allegedly threatening to kill Fedor's manager if he did not stay with them and their rivals were ending up suicided.

One of the reasons for the UFC sale was that wme had the most political clout and could do things Zuffa could not, and as we saw immediately after the sale, UFC magically got allowed in NYC ---- yes, that is a problem to begin with and should not be happening in this "free country", but we are run by nepotistic crooks, so it is no surprise. Ari Emmanuel is the brother of Rahm Emmanuel, the guy they said was the puppet master of Obama, and the Emmanuel boys are the sons of a high ranking Irgun member and connected to Mossad....so yah, good look starting a rival brand against that kind of power.
 
markg171 said:
Lmfao dishonest as fuck to look at the 3rd fight of a legendary and massive trilogy's purses compared to their 1st fight, which is the equivalent here for Ngannou/Gane.

I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence that he didn't use THOSE numbers, which were $4M Wilder and $3M Fury. Which is COMBINED what Ngannou says he turned down rather than re-sign with the UFC as champion. Something they also don't mention that he's willingly still on his pre-championship pay.

So weird right?
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OMG you know nothing about boxing that was the base salary as all fighters make its the percentage of PPV sales fighters make the most in. The UFC pay the main event fighters might get between 25 cents to 1 USD per PPV sale whereas in boxing its a whole lot more.

Wilder vs Fury 1 Base Salary
Wilder 4 million base salary
Fury 3 million base salary
Wilder vs Fury 1 in December 2018 in their first fight which was a split draw decision Deontay Wilder was the A side and earned around $9m to $12m . While Tyson Fury had to be content with 40/60 share of the purse and cleared around $6.75m to $8.75m.

Wilder vs Fury 2 Base Salary
Wilder 5 million base salary
Fury 5 million base salary
Fury vs Wilder 2 was billed as one of the biggest heavyweight showdowns in recent history and it did well with PPV buys (generating around 850,000 ppv sales only in the US and another 400,000 in the UK). Both Fury and Wilder shared the purse and PPV revenue on 50/50 basis clearing minimum of $25 million each.


Wilder vs Fury 3 Base Salary
Wilder 8 million base salary
Fury 10 million base salary
Wilder vs Fury 3 Fury gets 30 million Wilder made 20 million.

So now since you can see how the boxing pay scale works you can see how the UFC keeps the more than 80-95% of its PPV sales and only pay 1-4 fighters per PPV peanuts in PPV sales.

Boxing main event fighters get a nice large chunk of PPV sale which can double and even triple their base salary depending on PPV sales.
 
mma fighters should leave ufc and promote their own events where theyll get big chunk of the money
 
MMA is a niche "sport" at best.

Name another sport where the bigger guy wins by laying on the smaller guy.
 
Completely different business models.

UFC will never get there unless revenue grows to like 10 Billion a year. Which will never happen anytime soon since its a niche sport. Even with the fighters in the UFC becoming part of union it will still never be close to those numbers, period.
 
skylolow said:
Completely different business models.

UFC will never get there unless revenue grows to like 10 Billion a year. Which will never happen anytime soon since its a niche sport. Even with the fighters in the UFC becoming part of union it will still never be close to those numbers, period.
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What's the difference in business model?
To pay the fighters jack shit
 
grimballer said:
mma fighters should leave ufc and promote their own events where theyll get big chunk of the money
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Yep, all 5,000 buys they'll pull in.

Conor probably is the only guys that could pull this off with some success. Everyone else, good luck. You can argue no MMA org out side of the UFC has ever got more than 100K in PPV buys and no matter who believe no one for certain has done over 150K.

So 200K in buys at $50 a buy(fighter promotion gets half/other half to the PPV provider) that is 5M, plus gate, plus sponsorship. Maybe on a good day they have 8M in revenue. Minus out cost of the event and maybe on a good day they'll have like 6-7 million for the 10 fighters on the card. Top 2 getting almost all of that probably. I'm just not sure there is many fighters that could even get 200K in buys on there own and I'm talking like the Jon Jones of the world.
 
Gigaton Punch said:
What's the difference in business model?
To pay the fighters jack shit
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The UFC has around 400 employees working for them full time, health insurance, PI center, various offices around the globe, advertising, etc etc etc. The monthly expense to keep the corporate doors open is probably more in one month than most boxing promotions cost to run for a year. Most of these boxing promoters are literally a skeleton crew from a day to day perspective. It's like throwing a few music festival together each year. You have core group that works year around and that is it. But hundreds come together for one weekend to pull the event off. The UFC doesn't operate like that. They operate much more similar to the WWE than boxing.

But yes, they should pay more, no doubt about that.
 
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