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Full Body Workout vs Splits
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I'm confused how the hell you'd have these results. I'm lifting right now with zero focus, maybe 30 minutes per session including warmup, one lift a day, multiple kids running around, less eating, in the heat, etc. and I'm not even close to that far off.
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Its got to do with exercise order like someone previously mentioned. If I bench after I squat, my max js significantly lower than if I'd benched first.
I prescribed to the Blahino 1 exercise per bodypart bullshit and I didn't get good results. I'm back on 5 3 1.
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The question is, if smaller body parts take two days to recover and larger bodyparts take three days to recoved,
how long does it taketo recover if you have an MMA workout in between weightlifting sessions
how long does it taketo recover if you have an MMA workout in between weightlifting sessions
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Depends on how your body is able to handle recovery. If your body is used to both stimulus' (lifting + mma/combat sport) then it shouldn't be much of a problem.
I'm doing MMA/BJJ/MT along with my lifting. I won't lie, It is alot (AM/PM), and I don't have much going on in terms of a life, some days it feels shitty trying to get everything in and getting to bed before 11, and getting up at 6, but my body's adjusted and gotten used to it; However, there are some days where things are more intense. It could be that I went harder in lifting, and/or the next day or 2 the intensity in sparring and rolling kicked up, so I in turn have to take 1-2 training sessions off (MMA).
I'm not on drugs/PEDs or anything, and its still doable, I am however, on a surplus, if I was on a deficit (cut), no way would I be juggling lifting 6 days a week with 4 of those days MMA at nights. I think the added calories help out alot with recovering.
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Yeah it seems like, for lack of better terms, CNS fatigue. If your body isn't used to three major compound movements, then your going to be fried after the first and second lift until you get used to the workload.
It's like when I started on my new program, I would have to do some bodyweight pullups and dips. Normally I can crush a bunch of them, but the first few times after my program I couldn't do a single fucking one. It wasn't that I got weaker, it's that I was putting out more effort. My numbers eventually came back up and surpassed where I was by a long shot.
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What kind of forum is it?
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Perhaps I should mention that I switched to a 3 day a week split because of a demanding work schedule that forces me to lift on 4 hours of sleep. Perhaps that's also a factor inmy strength loss.
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This is a Strength and Conditioning forum. There is a significant difference.
Bodybuilding is an aesthetic competition for who looks the best. Bodybuilders are in terrible physical shape when they step out on stage for competition. They look massive, but have terrible physical performance. It's basically a dog and pony show for men to judge other men on how good they look naked. Wow. Real cool stuff.
Strength and Conditioning is an exercise philisophy that's meant to increase your performance in whatever sport you partake in. It doesn't give a single shit what you look like or how big any muscles are. It's only purpose is to increase your strength and physical conditioning, I.E. limit strength, muscular endurance, cardio, recovery, injury prevention.
See the difference now? Bodybuilding is about looks. Strength and conditioning is about performance. Bodybuilders look like they are in shape and aren't. People who do strength and conditioning might not have the best triceps development and a rack of abs, but they are strong and fast. If you want to lift weights to look pretty to other men, then go to bodybuilding.com and hang out in their forums. If you want to learn how to get more powerful for your sport, then stay in S&C.
So you increased your work load drastically and decreased your recovery? No wonder you've lost weight from your 1RM.
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Just trying to keep up.
- crossfit is gay.
- bodybuilding is not allowed.
- bodyweight training is "Rocky 4 shit"
I think i am starting to get it.
- crossfit is gay.
- bodybuilding is not allowed.
- bodyweight training is "Rocky 4 shit"
I think i am starting to get it.
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This ego thing with S&C vs bodybilder is a bit annoying especially in a forum for mostly hobby athletes who regardless of what they say most likely do care about how they look even pro athletes do.
He is obviously not something to take serious but so much for " terrible physical performance" I wonder how many on this forum could dot hat many muscle ups (I admit i can't do a single one and I'm tiny)
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Crossfit is dumb. Its even a banned topic primarily.
Bodybuilding isnt in line with forum guidelines. You dont go to the sports bar and discuss the spelling bee just because it happens to be appear on tsn 2 times a year.
Body weight training is fine, just tends to be more time consuming and steeper learning curve on The progressions. If i were to say use long lever arms and short moment arms in bodyweight training how many would be capable of it? Maybe 2 ppl in here. So its a bang for your buck in short time frame disagreement.
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So if you say you wnana ench because you wanna be big and look good it's bad but if you bench because you wanna be big and strong it's good? Despite ther ebeing an overlap?
Who many here really only care about performance and not one bit about looks? And how many bodybuilders don't wanna be strong as well?
So on the internet good-ness ranking it's like this: bodybuilding (you can't do shit) < powerlifting (strong but still can't do shit) < combat sports (better but still can't do shit vs a skinny nerd with a gun) < weapons (train for what just shoot the asshole)
Am I doing this right?
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What in the blue hell cunt flap's arms are you talking about? I get off work and have to come home to this redheaded step child bullshit.
"Threads about building specific body parts or other aesthetic goals. This forum emphasizes performance related goals, and enhancing athletic ability; bodybuilding has an aesthetic emphasis. However, we do have a thread where bodybuilding can be discussed freely here. All bodybuilding discussion goes in that thread."
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/guide-forbidden-topics-list.2210723/
Soooo since it's not in line with the forum, and is instead in line with the sub thread....yeah....take it there....oh over there.
I'm not even going to reply to the other part of your post since it has literally nothing to do with anything.
"Threads about building specific body parts or other aesthetic goals. This forum emphasizes performance related goals, and enhancing athletic ability; bodybuilding has an aesthetic emphasis. However, we do have a thread where bodybuilding can be discussed freely here. All bodybuilding discussion goes in that thread."
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/guide-forbidden-topics-list.2210723/
Soooo since it's not in line with the forum, and is instead in line with the sub thread....yeah....take it there....oh over there.
I'm not even going to reply to the other part of your post since it has literally nothing to do with anything.
Crossfit is just GPP or work capacity training. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it if included within the scope of an annual plan that covers off other attributes like max strength, aerobic capacity etc depending on whatever your goal is.
What's interesting about CF is they advertise it as being the opposite of what it is. They advertise it as training in multiple domains, whereas in reality they completely miss the boat on progressive maximal strength training and aerobic training, both extremely important for most athletes.Standard CF is GPP only. That's it. Which is why they now have CF "Endurance" and CF "Football". They know they're missing major components of "all-around fitness".
As GPP programs go, it's pretty damn good. But just doing GPP is like just doing LISS and saying you're a well rounded athlete.
What's interesting about CF is they advertise it as being the opposite of what it is. They advertise it as training in multiple domains, whereas in reality they completely miss the boat on progressive maximal strength training and aerobic training, both extremely important for most athletes.Standard CF is GPP only. That's it. Which is why they now have CF "Endurance" and CF "Football". They know they're missing major components of "all-around fitness".
As GPP programs go, it's pretty damn good. But just doing GPP is like just doing LISS and saying you're a well rounded athlete.
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Are you still upset that we said your "strength program" sucked?
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No really. But i just think this i a weird forum. And you saying "we"...
Haha well "I" have said enough.
Haha well "I" have said enough.
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What are you talking about? Bodybuilders are known for being basically sucked dry in competition so they can hit their body fat goals.They are super dehydrated and are close to starved. I think bodybuilding as a competition is silly. That's just my opinion. A bunch of guys getting naked and tan with a bunch of oils all over themselves while others judge them on their looks. Not my thing, but if you like it cool. My problem is that bodybuilding and strength training are different training methodologies. Strength training is about getting more powerful and athletic. Bodybuilding is strictly about looking good one day of the year. Bodybuilding has no place in a forum dedicated to strength and conditioning. There are other forums it's suited for. People come here to get more powerful and athletic in their sport.
Your guy is doing tons of bodyweight exercises. He's in nice shape. That's great. I'm sure he also spends a ton of time doing said exercises. Nothing wrong with that, other than the fact that it's incredibly inefficient for an athlete to train like him. There are more effective ways to get strong in the offseason and maintain in season, and that's for this forum.
