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Media Free fight: Do Bronx vs FKL

He legit has issues. He was replying to himself at times. Post whoring and spam. Both violations of the rules
Just wait till he starts sending DM’s, telling you about how badass he is and how you would quiver at his ft. I have hundreds of messages literally from him asking me about my training background and other random bullshit about how he has iq of 140 and everyone else is hater. He has serious fucking issues. It all stemmed from me challenging him about his alleged training and boxing/mma/pancrase fights. I asked him to prove it, never did. He’s liar and a fraud. Very special. It’s clear he’s a idiot and this thread shows it as many others.
 
mmm nop.

lee never achieved mount nor side control in any of the rounds, he got to half, and defended pretty well all attacks, he got close to being armbared in the second, also in the second he was getting Light up, took it to the ground and spent like 1 1/2 minutes in Charles half guard doing nothing but shoulder strikes. Under a grappling perspective, he would have not gotten the edge, under mma perspective, it depends, if some judge is giving more points for top position rather than being close to finish the fight, the I guess he could’ve have gotten round 2, round 1 was Charles and not just because of the grappling but for the striking part. Close fight, I would’ve probably guess it was 1-1 going to the third

11 years of grappling experience here, brown belt but have dropped the gi 5 years ago.


Imma have to disagree...Lee maintained a top position for the majority of the first round...landed shots here and there...reversed sweeps and ended the round on top...i say purely based on its MMA...he got outgrappled in a jiujitsu sense for sure...but none of those submissions in the first were close..attacking from the bottom isnt viewed the same as attacking from the top in MMA..but he (oliveira) likely could get the round for staying busy either way i think the first is a close round nd could go either way IMO...based on the rules of MMA judging.

Been training Japanese jiujitsu since 2005... Hold a blue belt, should be a brown belt but missed my last grading test due to having my first child( wife had it i was taking care of them both after) and couldn't make it
 
I was surprised at this result. I expected Lee to get a takedown and do damage from the top. I'm not a fan of Lee, so of course I welcomed the result
 
I’m still bummed the UFC decided to not do the Bronx/Islam fight. That was going to be one hell of a fight. The best version of Tony/Khabib we could have seen. Instead they went with RDA/Islam and Tony/Bronx.
 
ref should of stood up the fight alot more
 
Am I crazy to like Do Bronx against an aging Tony? If it hits +150 I'm juicing it
 
Just wait till he starts sending DM’s, telling you about how badass he is and how you would quiver at his ft. I have hundreds of messages literally from him asking me about my training background and other random bullshit about how he has iq of 140 and everyone else is hater. He has serious fucking issues. It all stemmed from me challenging him about his alleged training and boxing/mma/pancrase fights. I asked him to prove it, never did. He’s liar and a fraud. Very special. It’s clear he’s a idiot and this thread shows it as many others.
Perhaps i spammed a bit. Was pretty manic due to lack of sleep.

Analysis was quite good, other than that though.

Literally none of that ever happened in dms by the way. But we both know how you absolutely love to twist the truth to fit your flawed existence.

I said I was gonna post a video for fun, long before I ever mentioned it to you. It was already planned. I just made it clear you should be prepared to delete your lies and apologize when it comes to it.

The irony is how much you use the word fraud but you do nothing but lie and twist things.
 
Perhaps i spammed a bit. Was pretty manic due to lack of sleep.

Analysis was quite good, other than that though.

Literally none of that ever happened in dms by the way. But we both know how you absolutely love to twist the truth to fit your flawed existence.

I said I was gonna post a video for fun, long before I ever mentioned it to you. It was already planned. I just made it clear you should be prepared to delete your lies and apologize when it comes to it.

The irony is how much you use the word fraud but you do nothing but lie and twist things.
Haha wtf. Holy shit. You fucking weirdo.

Get help. Holy fuck. You been sending direct messages non stop for the past 3 hours. Fuck dude.

I’m done with you.

Please please fucking prove me wrong. Show how much of a fucking bad ass you are, create a thread, tag me and everyone else who has doubted you. Until fucking then leave me the fuck alone with your mental illness fueled DMs and rants.
 
Haha wtf. Holy shit. You fucking weirdo.

Get help. Holy fuck. You been sending direct messages non stop for the past 3 hours. Fuck dude.

I’m done with you.

Please please fucking prove me wrong. Show how much of a fucking bad ass you are, create a thread, tag me and everyone else who has doubted you. Until fucking then leave me the fuck alone with your mental illness fueled DMs and rants.
I been getting likes in this thread and seen you posted something else throwing shade.

YOU pmed me first talking shit kid. I didn't say a damn thing until you went off.

I was already planning on releasing something before I ever said anything to you. Talked about it openly.

Don't think I'm doing any favors for your 32 year old toxic ass.

It is comical how I absolutely wreck you in every mma debate we've ever had and you're just so convinced I don't know shit about MMA.

Couldn't imagine being so petty, bitter and pessimistic about everything.
 
Haha wtf. Holy shit. You fucking weirdo.

Get help. Holy fuck. You been sending direct messages non stop for the past 3 hours. Fuck dude.

I’m done with you.

Please please fucking prove me wrong. Show how much of a fucking bad ass you are, create a thread, tag me and everyone else who has doubted you. Until fucking then leave me the fuck alone with your mental illness fueled DMs and rants.
You're done with me because you can't hang with me.

Simple as that.

Only thing you can do is throw insults and gaslight because you have nothing of substance to say.

Imagine being like this at 32
 
I been getting likes in this thread and seen you posted something else throwing shade.

YOU pmed me first talking shit kid. I didn't say a damn thing until you went off.

I was already planning on releasing something before I ever said anything to you. Talked about it openly.

Don't think I'm doing any favors for your 32 year old toxic ass.

It is comical how I absolutely wreck you in every mma debate we've ever had and you're just so convinced I don't know shit about MMA.

Couldn't imagine being so petty, bitter and pessimistic about everything.

You're done with me because you can't hang with me.

Simple as that.

Only thing you can do is throw insults and gaslight because you have nothing of substance to say.

Imagine being like this at 32

Here we go again, You’ve been DM for months now, you initiated it. Not me.

i called you a fraud because you claim to be a fighter,boxer, mixed martial artist. I asked you for BoxerId# and Record. But you have non of that.

No one can hang with you pal, remember your the bad ass who knows everything about anything.

agian stop DM, it’s getting pointless.
 
Imma have to disagree...Lee maintained a top position for the majority of the first round...landed shots here and there...reversed sweeps and ended the round on top...i say purely based on its MMA...he got outgrappled in a jiujitsu sense for sure...but none of those submissions in the first were close..attacking from the bottom isnt viewed the same as attacking from the top in MMA..but he (oliveira) likely could get the round for staying busy either way i think the first is a close round nd could go either way IMO...based on the rules of MMA judging.

Been training Japanese jiujitsu since 2005... Hold a blue belt, should be a brown belt but missed my last grading test due to having my first child( wife had it i was taking care of them both after) and couldn't make it
Appreciate someone being on my side here.. lol

But I think it's one of those hindsight 2020 things.

It looked like Oliveira won the round just because of how active he was off his back, but Lee did a lot that was ignored.
 
Here we go again, You’ve been DM for months now, you initiated it. Not me.

i called you a fraud because you claim to be a fighter,boxer, mixed martial artist. I asked you for BoxerId# and Record. But you have non of that.

No one can hang with you pal, remember your the bad ass who knows everything about anything.

agian stop DM, it’s getting pointless.
lol. Bro. You start this shit just as much as anyone. You do nothing but throw shade and project your toxic, flawed existence onto the world.


Do you want me to repeat it for the 10th time. I never once said I have completed in boxing. I have trained under a pro boxer many years, on and off. Never said i competed. I have done pankration tournaments, that's it.

Anybody can hang. There's a lot of brilliant, thoughtful, balanced, objective people here who are capable of discussing things, even in disagreement without reverting to bitter, toxic 32 year old man children.

You just aren't one of them
 
lol. Bro. You start this shit just as much as anyone. You do nothing but throw shade and project your toxic, flawed existence onto the world.


Do you want me to repeat it for the 10th time. I never once said I have completed in boxing. I have trained under a pro boxer many years, on and off. Never said i competed. I have done pankration tournaments, that's it.

Anybody can hang. There's a lot of brilliant, thoughtful, balanced, objective people here who are capable of discussing things, even in disagreement without reverting to bitter, toxic 32 year old man children.

You just aren't one of them
Never started shit with anyone, you started shit with me from the get go, being toxic bullying people telling everyone they are wrong when there were differed thoughts on Diaz boxing claiming you’re a boxer that’s why you were right. Remember you could have gone far in amateurs, national level boxer. Those are you words.

You’re exhausting. Don’t message me again until you’re ready to prove my downfall with actions and not words. All I hear is I will, soon. Never Do.

Leave me alone.
 
Pzv xz
Never started shit with anyone, you started shit with me from the get go, being toxic bullying people telling everyone they are wrong when there were differed thoughts on Diaz boxing claiming you’re a boxer that’s why you were right. Remember you could have gone far in amateurs, national level boxer. Those are you words.

You’re exhausting. Don’t message me again until you’re ready to prove my downfall with actions and not words. All I hear is I will, soon. Never Do.

Leave me alone.
Yeah. You didn't message me with the intention of stirring shit up today. Ok bud, lol.

I've tried to be cool and squash this petty bullshit many times but you just keep throwing shade and being toxic any chance you can get. You literally stalk my posts at this point, that's the point we at.. lmao

Anyways we'll address it when the time comes. Would've happened sooner but covid and lack of training took a lot of people off the level. It is what it is.
 
Never started shit with anyone, you started shit with me from the get go, being toxic bullying people telling everyone they are wrong when there were differed thoughts on Diaz boxing claiming you’re a boxer that’s why you were right. Remember you could have gone far in amateurs, national level boxer. Those are you words.

You’re exhausting. Don’t message me again until you’re ready to prove my downfall with actions and not words. All I hear is I will, soon. Never Do.

Leave me alone.
Who's the one who unnecessarily threw shade in this thread? Just to tell me how much of a piece of shit I am.

Who pmed me today trying to instigate when the last time we talked I was trying to be peaceful and quell drama?

On many occasions, I've tried to be the bigger person, but you just keep bringing it back. Then you wanna act like it's me doing this for just defending myself from the baseless nonsense that comes out of your mouth.
 
Who's the one who unnecessarily threw shade in this thread? Just to tell me how much of a piece of shit I am.

Who pmed me today trying to instigate when the last time we talked I was trying to be peaceful and quell drama?

On many occasions, I've tried to be the bigger person, but you just keep bringing it back. Then you wanna act like it's me doing this for just defending myself from the baseless nonsense that comes out of your mouth.
Going off your history all of this is bs.
 
Going off your history all of this is bs.
My history of speaking truth in a political sphere full of msm zombies who can't see past their nose?

Comes with the territory.

Dumb people will often seem something to be bullshit or crazy that they simply don't understand.

Many people do and will. Just typically not in the political sphere. As I said, many in that realm are skin to the most hardcore, cult like religious zealots. They tend to be unwavering in their convictions.
 
Imma have to disagree...Lee maintained a top position for the majority of the first round...landed shots here and there...reversed sweeps and ended the round on top...i say purely based on its MMA...he got outgrappled in a jiujitsu sense for sure...but none of those submissions in the first were close..attacking from the bottom isnt viewed the same as attacking from the top in MMA..but he (oliveira) likely could get the round for staying busy either way i think the first is a close round nd could go either way IMO...based on the rules of MMA judging.

Been training Japanese jiujitsu since 2005... Hold a blue belt, should be a brown belt but missed my last grading test due to having my first child( wife had it i was taking care of them both after) and couldn't make it



Top position while defending subs isn’t maintaining anything, it’s avoiding getting subbed, he got a good round ending, that was it.


it’s a really wider term, don’t know your “style” but most are Larpers, there are a few legit though
 
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