Francis wont make a big bag even if he gets a fight with Fury or Wilder

[RageQuitLord]

Big Frank is the champ of heavyweight MMA and he also doesn't have to live underneath the heel of a wife beater's tyranny anymore. If you think that all there is to life is money then you won't understand.

 

[m249viking]

Big Frank is the champ of heavyweight MMA and he also doesn't have to live underneath the heel of a wife beater's tyranny anymore. If you think that all there is to life is money then you won't understand.[/QUOTE

I think that's fair to ask, but there's no clear-cut answer to that question. And, as I posted above, he conveyed very clearly that money wasn't the issue.

Money is very much the issue. I

 

[Tyler Durden]

As if the "sand mines" are his only option if he doesn't fight Fury, lmao. And Yeah, the UFC never brings back fighters

Please, for your own sake, never go into a business venture.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Big Frank is the champ of heavyweight MMA and he also doesn't have to live underneath the heel of a wife beater's tyranny anymore. If you think that all there is to life is money then you won't understand.

Yup, it's so much better to be unemployed.
I swear, some of you people live in a fantasy land.

 

[kellier]

Of course he wont. Dillian Whyte got about $8 mil dollars for his WBC mandatory against Fury. That sold out a stadium for live gate.

If Fury was offering 3 belt champ Usyk only 70/30 split. Would Ngannou get more than 80/20? Probably not.

He'd have made more money fighting Jon Jones

 

[Cowboy Kurt Angle]

Francis says he doesn’t have a Lawyer for fuck sakes these boxing promoters are gonna Scam him

 

[djacobox372]

This is borderline delusional. He’s not a draw like Conor was and he won’t be fighting Floyd. There is no Superfight for him without the UFC to co-promote him. He fucked his entire career up.

Nobody said he will make the 100 million Conor made for fighting Floyd. But he could make 15-20 million for a Fury fight, and 10-15 million for a Wilder fight.

You don't seem to understand how much $$ is in boxing, and how uninterested the top guys are in fighting each other--making Franics the only decent payday in town for the top 4.

 

[djacobox372]

Of course he wont. Dillian Whyte got about $8 mil dollars for his WBC mandatory against Fury. That sold out a stadium for live gate.

If Fury was offering 3 belt champ Usyk only 70/30 split. Would Ngannou get more than 80/20? Probably not.

He'd have made more money fighting Jon Jones

Francis has more negotiating power than people give him credit. None of these top heavyweights want to fight each other, Francis is an easy pay day that will sell a decent amount of PPVs. That's very tempting for guys like Fury and Wilder--and only one of them will get a chance to cash that check, because Francis isn't beating either.

Mark my words, one of them will pay Francis more than you can imagine just so he fights them and not the other.

 

[DSM]

Lmao even with just 1% interest on his money (assuming he made $10 mil in his career) he's making 100k a year. That's the bare MINIMUM and prob way more from just interest. I don't think he needs the money the way we imagine it.

 

[ferrisjso]

While you think that take a look at some of these boxing PPV's that have sold 500k-1.25 million buys and there's no reason to think they can't crack a million with Wilder v Francis and the whole "power v power" angle. 700,000 people bought Manny v Clottey. Your assuming the people who buy boxing matches can sniff a lopsided mapup and I don't think they can at least not in large enough numbers to make a Francis fight bomb.

The spectacle of wondering what Francis will look like in a boxing ring will sell the first time. If he gets destroyed no one's going to be coming back but he should get that first "bag". .

 

[kellier]

Francis has more negotiating power than people give him credit. None of these top heavyweights want to fight each other, Francis is an easy pay day that will sell a decent amount of PPVs. That's very tempting for guys like Fury and Wilder--and only one of them will get a chance to cash that check, because Francis isn't beating either.

Mark my words, one of them will pay Francis more than you can imagine just so he fights them and not the other.

I just don't see Ngannou bringing star power to a boxing match to warrant a large purse share. And it gives the big draw boxer nothing towards getting a title shot. Why would Wilder waste time with Ngannou when he has a closing window at another title run. He'd be mad to do it.

HW is probably at its healthiest since pre Klitschko bros. You've Fury, Usyk, Wilder and AJ at the top and Joyce, Dubois, Hrgovic, Whyte & Ruiz below. Anderson might crash the party too soon.

If AJ or Wilder lose soon and are resigned to money fights, then maybe they'll fight Francis. If that's the case, I don't think it will be huge

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Big Frank is the champ of heavyweight MMA and he also doesn't have to live underneath the heel of a wife beater's tyranny anymore. If you think that all there is to life is money then you won't understand.

You’re naive like a child who believes in Santa Claus.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

While you think that take a look at some of these boxing PPV's that have sold 500k-1.25 million buys and there's no reason to think they can't crack a million with Wilder v Francis and the whole "power v power" angle. 700,000 people bought Manny v Clottey. Your assuming the people who buy boxing matches can sniff a lopsided mapup and I don't think they can at least not in large enough numbers to make a Francis fight bomb.

The spectacle of wondering what Francis will look like in a boxing ring will sell the first time. If he gets destroyed no one's going to be coming back but he should get that first "bag". .

Who?! Without the UFC highlight reel to use, barey anyone knows who Ngannou is.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Francis has more negotiating power than people give him credit. None of these top heavyweights want to fight each other, Francis is an easy pay day that will sell a decent amount of PPVs. That's very tempting for guys like Fury and Wilder--and only one of them will get a chance to cash that check, because Francis isn't beating either.

Mark my words, one of them will pay Francis more than you can imagine just so he fights them and not the other.

What negotiating power? He was released by the UFC, he has no highlight reel to use, barely speaks coherent English, has no personality, and has been labeled as “unrealistic” in his monetary demands by several promoters of the largest Orgs.
You have a paltry understanding of the business side of the fight game.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Nobody said he will make the 100 million Conor made for fighting Floyd. But he could make 15-20 million for a Fury fight, and 10-15 million for a Wilder fight.

You don't seem to understand how much $$ is in boxing, and how uninterested the top guys are in fighting each other--making Franics the only decent payday in town for the top 4.

How does he make 10-20 million with no way to promote him, genius?! What are you gonna sell to the masses, sparring footage?
You don’t seem to understand that if it was so easy to get a boxing Superfight and if Ngannou was such an easy “money fight” and draw, why hasn’t there been any announcement between him and ANY of the top 4 in boxing? It’s because he was used as leverage for those boxers to secure better contract terms. Fury quite literally made Ngannou into an April fools joke.

 

[Ozze]

He doesn't care. He didn't like the fake "independent contractor" agreement the UFC wanted him to sign because it restricts TF out of the fighter. And no, the result of him not signing is not, "well then he's Stoopid HURRRR!". It's his life and he doesn't give AF what anyone else thinks.

So many people say "Ugh, he could've just fought Jones for 8 million" like it was just fight and walk away ignoring the fact that fighting Jones would mean getting another long ass trap contract with the UFC. Which was exactly what he didn't want in the first place.

Francis has said on a duzen interviews "it was not about the money" and yet we just see people repeating the same thing about the money.

He wanted out and got what he wanted. Probably won't get that huge ass boxing fight he wanted but at least he got rid of Dana.

 

[Fergelmince]

So many people say "Ugh, he could've just fought Jones for 8 million" like it was just fight and walk away ignoring the fact that fighting Jones would mean getting another long ass trap contract with the UFC. Which was exactly what he didn't want in the first place.

Francis has said on a duzen interviews "it was not about the money" and yet we just see people repeating the same thing about the money.

He wanted out and got what he wanted. Probably won't get that huge ass boxing fight he wanted but at least he got rid of Dana.

Exactly. And there are a lot of people who have the highest hopes that he fails. Weird to be in the era where they hope the UFC triumphs over the little guy.

 

[Jstr]

So many people say "Ugh, he could've just fought Jones for 8 million" like it was just fight and walk away ignoring the fact that fighting Jones would mean getting another long ass trap contract with the UFC. Which was exactly what he didn't want in the first place.

Francis has said on a duzen interviews "it was not about the money" and yet we just see people repeating the same thing about the money.

He wanted out and got what he wanted. Probably won't get that huge ass boxing fight he wanted but at least he got rid of Dana.

+20 million, three fight contract does not sound like a horrible trap contract to me.

Lets see if he has those same stipulations for the next organization he goes, I bet he wont care about universal health care and fighters union when (if) he does boxing.

 

[fzoid4454]

So, basically Francis,

Boxing nobody, but well known in the MMA world. Much more of a household name than.... wait while I look it up on Google....

Robert Helenius

Nobody serious about boxing paid for Mayweather and McGregor, but they made obscene amounts of money. The premise that Francis can't make money, and more money, at that, outside of the UFC is nonsense.

 

[m249viking]

Boxing nobody, but well known in the MMA world. Much more of a household name than.... wait while I look it up on Google....

Robert Helenius

Nobody serious about boxing paid for Mayweather and McGregor, but they made obscene amounts of money. The premise that Francis can't make money, and more money, at that, outside of the UFC is nonsense.

The premise that Francis is any kind of draw like McGregor is delusional. Francis isn't going to make anywhere close to what he lost be turning down the UFC. Francis is getting standard rate offers because that's what he is worth. No fight promotion anywhere has any interest in paying Francis as much as the UFC offered. Francis has no leverage. Francis brings nothing to the table. If Francis is lucky he could go beg Dana and maybe he'll get 2/3 of the previous offer.