News *** Francis Ngannou Free Agency/Contract/Decision Making Discussion MEGA THREAD ***

[Guy LeDouche]

Who is this kid who thinks the world owes him a living? You sound like a spoiled brat who lives with his parents. You're supposed to lift your own weight in this world, and no boss or company owes you anything after you part ways other than what was originally written down on paper. Go try living without expecting handouts.

Absolutely.
This idiot has been attacking posters throughout this thread for no reason calling them “shills and ufc employees”
He needs to take his Greta Thunberg ass somewhere else.

 

[Normo]

If they really offered him to be the highest paid UFC HW ever and he turned it down he is an idiot. If he thinks he can make it a boxer he is in for a rude awakening and he isn't going to jump in a huge money fight at the start because people like Wilder want actual belts, fighting Ngannou gets them no closer to a belt

 

[The_Renaissance]

Never understand what happened here. You've got a gigantic, scary looking HW champ who almost kills people when he lands flush as your champion - pay him what he fucking wants. Having a marketable HW champ is essential for any promotion, just ask boxing.

 

[TheBulge]

So what your saying is that if UFC offers you a shit deal, then you should just take it and not complain?


Like I said, I am glad Francis left and you seem to be the type of guy that an employer loves to smack around. Too scared to voice your dismay for your pay and always grateful for being fed scraps and your masters left overs. Also everyone has been calling Dana out for shit pay:




Also I would rather be a rich spoiled brat than a timid scared company drone any day of the week.

No, child, unlike you I won't take a job that I haven't negociated for my needs, and without knowing my rights during and after taking said job. If I don't like the pay increase the following years and we can't make a deal I will move on to something else and that will be the end of it.

That's how adults handle business. But your whole post is littered with the aura of an immature spoiled brat who thinks he should be taken care of for the rest of his life by an employer just because you worked for them for X amount of time. Life does not work like that. The UFC does not owe Sherk a single penny, and Sherk is an adult who has to make his own way in life, and it sounds like he does with a regular job.

They don't owe him anything. Nobody owes you anything. Quit whining.

 

[Kommit]

Ngannou believes he's above the sport or what ?

 

[Ogata]

Why are you even here to begin with? You don’t seem to want to watch two people fight, you are trying to attack people from this ridiculous moral high ground and then attack their intelligence because they actually want to watch fighting, not build their brand…
You’ve spent the last few posts virtue signaling for what? you…a poster on an mma forum is going to influence other posters on a mma forum to change a company who none of us work for and doesn’t give a shit about their employees. Again why are YOU even here if you hate the game so much?

In your own logic you have already destroyed your own argument, no fighter is bigger than the UFC. Francis Ngannou is not going to change this.
So again all you are doing is crying on a soapbox for no reason bothering people who don’t care and want to watch fighting. Take another crying bj for your time to help your tears.

I just said that Francis did the right thing. I support his decision and I simply mentioned the logic behind it. You are too much of a simpleton with the whole ``watch two people fight`` like this is a business and in business, it needs to be done right. Is that really so hard to understand?

 

[Max Power]

Now he can make real money.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

I just said that Francis did the right thing. I support his decision and I simply mentioned the logic behind it. You are too much of a simpleton with the whole ``watch two people fight`` like this is a business and in business, it needs to be done right. Is that really so hard to understand?

Stop it already you entitled whiny brat. You’ve got multiple people in this thread who are sick of you crying. Take your Greta act elsewhere.

you are oversimplifying your own bullshit and pulling back because you made yourself look like a crybaby earlier.

 

[C0NCH3TO]

It's partially thanks to the big lawsuits that pressed the UFC to put an expiration date on their contracts.
And also, Ngannou pakd a high price for resisting to resign for years.

Shit, I didn’t know the UFC changed their terms due to Cung Le’s, Quarry and Co. anti trust lawsuit. Thanks for the info, sherbro. I guess that class action suit did something good for the fighters. I googled it and read the whole article, pretty interesting.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/platfor...ique-opportunity-ufc-contract-changes-ufc-270

 

[Ogata]

No, child, unlike you I won't take a job that I haven't negociated for my needs, and without knowing my rights during and after taking said job. If I don't like the pay increase the following years and we can't make a deal I will move on to something else and that will be the end of it.

That's how adults handle business. But your whole post is littered with the aura of an immature spoiled brat who thinks he should be taken care of for the rest of his life by an employer just because you worked for them for X amount of time. Life does not work like that. The UFC does not owe Sherk a single penny, and Sherk is an adult who has to make his own way in life, and it sounds like he does with a regular job.

They don't owe him anything. Nobody owes you anything. Quit whining.

Are you daft or something?

What you said is EXACTLY what Francis did. He did not like the terms of the contract and decided to bow out. Regarding Sherk, many years Dana mentioned that ``these guys are going to be taken care of`` thus an expectation was set. Francis is smart and knows not to trust Dana because they can lie and the contract sucks according to Francis.

I am not sure what the problem is. Aspiring to fight in the UFC is just a bad life decision. Is that too offensive too say?

 

[Chalky White]

It’s funny, the same posters that tell fighters to “suck it up” are also the ones always complaining about how bad the HW division is lol.

The UFC will never get top talent if it continues going this route.

 

[Ogata]

Absolutely.
This idiot has been attacking posters throughout this thread for no reason calling them “shills and ufc employees”
He needs to take his Greta Thunberg ass somewhere else.

its not for no reason, I said the reason and the reason is inflation and not understanding how modern life works.

Greta is a goof, hopefully Top G comes out of prison and head kicks her to irrelevancy.

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Stop it already you entitled whiny brat. You’ve got multiple people in this thread who are sick of you crying. Take your Greta act elsewhere.

you are oversimplifying your own bullshit and pulling back because you made yourself look like a crybaby earlier.

Lol at multiple people, more like two people with zero comprehension skill. My argument is based on logic and not emotion. I hope Francis gets a fight with Fury and that would be the best scenario.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

its not for no reason, I said the reason and the reason is inflation and not understanding how modern life works.

Greta is a goof, hopefully Top G comes out of prison and head kicks her to irrelevancy.



Lol at multiple people, more like two people with zero comprehension skill. My argument is based on logic and not emotion. I hope Francis gets a fight with Fury and that would be the best scenario.

Little buddy.
That alone shows how out of touch you are. The chances of Frank getting a fight with Fury is are gone…No way in hell does Fury, Wilder or Joshua entertain a fight with a FORMER UFC CHAMPION.
He’s got no promotional power behind him, tell me what highlights are they going to use to promote the fight? He’s lost all the momentum here.

And the Andrew Tate love? You are really must be trolling kid.

 

[Kryptt]

Well if he fights MMA I'll tune in regardless of Org. If it's Crossover shit I won't bother.

The tiniest interest I had was satiated long ago and proven to be exactly what I thought it was. Just another iteration of Battle of the Network Stars i.e. Clown Shows.

Enjoy!

 

[TheBulge]

Are you daft or something?

What you said is EXACTLY what Francis did. He did not like the terms of the contract and decided to bow out. Regarding Sherk, many years Dana mentioned that ``these guys are going to be taken care of`` thus an expectation was set. Francis is smart and knows not to trust Dana because they can lie and the contract sucks according to Francis.

I am not sure what the problem is. Aspiring to fight in the UFC is just a bad life decision. Is that too offensive too say?

Here's another lesson for you my spoiled little young child: ANYTHING that a boss tells you that's not written down in your contract should be taken with a grain of salt.

Because in life, things can happen. Companies take other companies over, management changes. Oh what's that? That's what happened to the UFC? Oh I see. The only thing you can point to is what's in your contract. If you think that a "promise" your current boss tells you will hold and never think your boss may be replaced or forced to go into another direction, you're once again an delusional one who doesn't know how life works.

I doubt Sherk is as delusional as you, and probably understands that a statement from Dana which wasn't written, wasn't gonna take care of him for life like a big fucking baby. And newsflash, your boss will not take care of you for life even though you're a big baby.

As for Ngannou, I see no issues from either side. he did what he had to do, the UFC did what they had to do. So what's all this whining? Move on like they did.

 

[Ogata]

It’s funny, the same posters that tell fighters to “suck it up” are also the ones always complaining about how bad the HW division is lol.

The UFC will never get top talent if it continues going this route.

Thats exactly it but these goofballs do not understand how life works. People who are super athletes know they are super athletes because the world lets them know. So with that awareness, they are smart enough not to choose a sport that is going to short change them. Tyson and Roy Jones of the world are not gonna bother.

 

[Ogata]

Little buddy.
That alone shows how out of touch you are. The chances of Frank getting a fight with Fury is are gone…No way in hell does Fury, Wilder or Joshua entertain a fight with a FORMER UFC CHAMPION.
He’s got no promotional power behind him, tell me what highlights are they going to use to promote the fight? He’s lost all the momentum here.

And the Andrew Tate love? You are really must be trolling kid.

Mind as well since I am talking to a troll. Also PFL is a promotion interested in him. Also he has not lost momentum since he is on the news and we are talking about him and Jake will use this angle to promote him in case the Tyson fight does not happen.

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Mind as well since I am talking to a troll. Also PFL is a promotion interested in him. Also he has not lost momentum since he is on the news and we are talking about him and Jake will use this angle to promote him in case the Tyson fight does not happen.

Oh yeah PFL and Jake Paul…real big players. What’s next BKFC?

So far in your whinings you’ve propped up Jake Paul and Andrew Tate…we’re done here.

 

[Ogata]

Here's another lesson for you my spoiled little young child: ANYTHING that a boss tells you that's not written down in your contract should be taken with a grain of salt.

Because in life, things can happen. Companies take other companies over, management changes. Oh what's that? That's what happened to the UFC? Oh I see. The only thing you can point to is what's in your contract. If you think that a "promise" your current boss tells you will hold and never think your boss may be replaced or forced to go into another direction, you're once again an delusional one who doesn't know how life works.

I doubt Sherk is as delusional as you, and probably understands that a statement from Dana which wasn't written, wasn't gonna take care of him for life like a big fucking baby. And newsflash, your boss will not take care of you for life even though you're a big baby.

As for Ngannou, I see no issues from either side. he did what he had to do, the UFC did what they had to do. So what's all this whining? Move on like they did.

Man you must be one angry mofo. As far sherk goes, I merely used him as an example of Danas dishonest reputation. Not a hard thing to comprehend.


You jumped in half way and failed to read the original post and as I mentioned before, Francis is going what he feels is best for him while those two goofballs were attacking him. Then you jumped in all gung ho not knowing what was being said about Francis since he was being insulted for choosing not to resign with the UFC.

Also calling people names is distasteful and it feels more like a projection.

 

[jk7707]

Absolute embarrassment for the UFC. You let the HW champ go in the prime of his career over what? A million a fight? What a joke.