Found two articles about why Fedor was declining in 2009/2008

[KillerIsBack V2]

Fedor should have stopped competing in sambo after his loss to Tsuyoshi Kosaka

 

[HHJ]

Fedor should have stopped competing in sambo after his loss to Tsuyoshi Kosaka

Because his training in sambo directly contributed to that clash of heads???

 

[HHJ]

I think she did shift in style a bit personally, under Edmond I think you can see she shifts from using striking as cover to look for the clinch to actually looking for finishes.

It made sense at first vs people like McMann and Bethe who had very limited striking, basically a good counter to grapplers. She seemed like she bought into the hype that she'd become a great striker though and carried on doing it against Holm and Nunes, you don't throw a punch like this as cover for trying for the clinch.

Grappling wise she was always pretty pure Judo I'd agree, fighting in the kind of way Fedor did VERY early in his career as say vs Arona.

Once she was able to bash up Bethe and Mcmann she probably thought its all she needed on her way to the clinch w anyone.

I should probably read the whole post u made cos im just repeating what u said lol

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Because his training in sambo directly contributed to that clash of heads???

It's not specifically that. Was gonna say before his mma debut, but chose a further date for some reason. To keep his hobby a little longer I guess lol.

 

[HHJ]

It's not specifically that. Was gonna say before his mma debut, but chose a further date for some reason. To keep his hobby a little longer I guess lol.

If training and participating in 2 sports took that long to catch up to him,It was probably worth it hahah

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

If training and participating in 2 sports took that long to catch up to him,It was probably worth it hahah

participating on the world championship level in both?
sounds likea pretty dumb idea honestly.
Imagine if he only focused on mma.
the rule set of sport sambo is very specific.
Same problem bjj guys have during transition. Brah I love to annoy noobs in training by sitting down on teh floor or turning around for no reason, hell I even did it in a tournament once. Would I do it if he can punch me in teh face? absolutely not.

 

[HHJ]

sounds likea pretty dumb idea honestly.

Emelianenko began his MMA career on 21 May 2000, with four straight victories. After a controversial loss in December 2000, Emelianenko was unbeaten in his next 28 fights up until June 2010, including wins over four former UFC champions, one Pride FC champion, one former and two future K-1 champions, and two Olympic medalists.

Emelianenko has earned numerous MMA accolades and Sports Illustrated, among other publications, named him the top MMA fighter of the 2000s.


SAMBO FEDOR



MMA FEDOR

REGULAR UNLEADED FEDOR

 

[jsbx45]

Fedor didn't forget anything TS, he remembered to get paid!

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Emelianenko began his MMA career on 21 May 2000, with four straight victories. After a controversial loss in December 2000, Emelianenko was unbeaten in his next 28 fights up until June 2010, including wins over four former UFC champions, one Pride FC champion, one former and two future K-1 champions, and two Olympic medalists.

Emelianenko has earned numerous MMA accolades and Sports Illustrated, among other publications, named him the top MMA fighter of the 2000s.


SAMBO FEDOR



MMA FEDOR

REGULAR UNLEADED FEDOR

I never said he wasn't the GOAT.
Fedor(with out sambo waste of time) > (GSP+Silva+Jon Jones) combined

 

[HHJ]

I never said he wasn't the GOAT.
Fedor(with out sambo waste of time) > (GSP+Silva+Jon Jones) combined

The lad did good tho

<3

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

The lad did good tho

<3

Too bad he won't be appreciated enough because new fans wank their contemporaries.

 

[HHJ]

Too bad he won't be appreciated enough because new fans wank their contemporaries.

It doesnt matter what he did,it would be the same. He could have been 20 yrs champ and as soon as he lost "well...that was the ancient days where fighters sucked"

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

It doesnt matter what he did,it would be the same. He could have been 20 yrs champ and as soon as he lost "well...that was the ancient days where fighters sucked"

what... what you mean it don't matter... if you fight more on professional level.. it adds mileage on your body..

extreme example, cub beat kron, and had another ufc fight signed after, got injured in a grapplign event the ufc did between them and sat out a year.

You're telling me if ronda kepts going to every pan am and world cup and olympics in judo like she always did before mma she would have teh same career? bs, she'd be injured a lot more, and her camps would be harder to keep readjusting technique according to both sport's rules too.

Same if Holly kept competing in boxing while in the UFC.

 

[HHJ]

what... what you mean it don't matter... if you fight more on professional level.. it adds mileage on your body..

extreme example, cub beat kron, and had another ufc fight signed after, got injured in a grapplign event the ufc did between them and sat out a year.

You're telling me if ronda kepts going to every pan am and world cup and olympics in judo like she always did before mma she would have teh same career? bs, she'd be injured a lot more, and her camps would be harder to keep readjusting technique according to both sport's rules too.

Same if Holly kept competing in boxing while in the UFC.

None of what your sayin matters. Fedor handled all of that dual Goataility as well as any man could. He did all he had to do. We can ask no more of E-Fed the Gawd. Let him bang bro

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

None of what your sayin matters. Fedor handled all of that dual Goataility as well as any man could. He did all he had to do. We can ask no more of E-Fed the Gawd. Let him bang bro

Like I said, he's still the GOAT.
I'm not saying things to alter the timeline and warp reality.
Just giving a perspective.
We're here to discuss mma aren't we?
Unless everything you write here is sent out to all mma orgs and gyms to change their business plans.
That's only you, none of us are that special.

 

[HHJ]

Like I said, he's still the GOAT.
I'm not saying things to alter the timeline and warp reality.
Just giving a perspective.
We're here to discuss mma aren't we?
Unless everything you write here is sent out to all mma orgs and gyms to change their business plans.
That's only you, none of us are that special.

Now that I can take a step back and view his career as a whole,I am more or less satisfied with it. For all the things people can pick out,every fighter would stab their own grandma in the face to have a career like that. All hail the King. Following his careers so much more highs than lows. He brought alot of joy to my life. More than most.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Same thing happened to Ronda. She started doing too much media and then lost.

The difference is that Ronda was always bad. She dominated against sub-par competition, but she never had any strategy beyond bullrush while throwing punches, end up in a clinch, and throw them down to go for an armbar. In Ronda's case, she ran into two opponents who didn't play that game.

 

[HHJ]

I have always thought it was because of his hand injuries. Hard to grapple without a grip. Still can punch though.

Injuries probably made it more difficult to train. Combined with less hunger to be the best

He gave an interview before his rematch w Kosaka where he said he had hand problems and it made it hard for him to train for this fight. It was on a Bushido both he and his brother fouight on. He was a little fatter than usual. He said even running was hard with his hand being like it was

 

[HHJ]

The difference is that Ronda was always bad. She dominated against sub-par competition, but she never had any strategy beyond bullrush while throwing punches, end up in a clinch, and throw them down to go for an armbar. In Ronda's case, she ran into two opponents who didn't play that game.

Thats too one sided. SHe beat holly,who lost her title to Miesha who she beat twice with not much trouble.

The Nunes fight is harder to judge because she clearly went out there like a deer in headlights. She was not ready and UFC wanted to get that last payday. She had the right idea with her career,but an opponent like Holly required more of a specific gameplan,her lack of ability to shoot for the legs (bad knees from judo) limited her ability to close the distance...and tryting to play the feint game against a seasoned boxer wouldnt have worked. I believe she could beat Holm w right training,but even at her best,Nunes is a difficult opponent for anyone. You cant take away from the fact that Ronda was blasting girls out of there with ease. You can count on one hand the girls in mma who do that.

 

[Pierced7681]

Ronda was exactly the same.
She came in knowing judo, and won via judo.
edmund told her she can box world champion boxers easily, when he doesnt really teach her anything.
and that's what she did in the holme fight.
And she was retarded to blieve him again and only strike in the next fight.

if ronda started out in ATT or AKA she would have stayed champ forever.

No too much media obligations caused Ronda to not train properly for Holly. Nunes however was just a bad match up for Ronda, only way she was winning that one was to take a beating like Alpha Cat and wait for Nunes to gas and then sub her.