Forrest Griffin is criminally underrated

[BLIND]

No.

About 95% of Forrest's career consisted in gatekeeping. He was never among the best in the division except for a very brief period of time. He was basicly only relevant in 3 fights: against Shogun, who was making his UFC debut and fought injured, against Rampage (very close fight) and against Rashad, who destroyed him.

Yeah Rashad destroyed him! Swept the scorecards for the first 2 rounds and then finished him in the 3rd.

What's that...? Forrest won the first 2 rounds, and Rashad didn't have much offense until that takedown which led to the finish? Total destruction! Fookin scrub.

Why do we, as fans and total pussies in comparison, love hating on fighters and insulting them so much? There are posts like this abt EVERY fighter every day. It's fucking pathetic to even want to be that nasty. Nasty women on this board

 

[reddhelium]

how can a ufc hall of fame inductee be underrated?

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

Is he though?

Where is he in these rankings, before or after Evans?

Jones, Wandy, Chuck, Shogun, Machida, Evans, Rampage, Hendo, Forrest, Tito, Couture.

So let's say he's 10th or 11th LHW. Is he really underrated? I mean, are there people out there saying Babalu, Arona or Vitor should be ranked drastically higher? And even if so, that would still make him top 15 instead of top 12, behind a who's who of MMA players.

Or are YOU suggesting he belongs above, say, Hendo, Wandy, Machida or Shogun? If so, then I guess I respectfully disagree. But I don't think you're saying that, and I posit that just about everyone has about the same, accurate perception about the guy; 'Hard worker' applies, and so does 'over-achiever', but 'one of the sports best' or 'legend' probably don't.

Does saying that out loud mean that I'm "underrating" him?

 

[HankScorpio]

Makes his debut against fucking Dan Severn at age 22.

Saves the UFC with the Bonnar fight

Submits prime Shogun and beats Rampage to win the title in one of the most tactical performances ever by a LHW.

Put everything on the line and fought prime Anderson when everyone was terrified of him. Takes balls

5 wins against 3 former UFC champs. Pure grit and determination, wasn't born as some super athlete, all hard work. Some of the best cardio in LHW history, underrated ground game, and just one of the most likable guys in MMA. Shame his injuries led to his retirement. I am glad the UFC gave him a job.

Yes, he is very underrated these days. His cardio would make Prime Forrest a contender in any era.

Lmao, at all the Shogun nut-huggers, they still haven't let that shit go. Shogun has let it go, maybe you guys should too. LOL.

 

[imarayda]

No, he isnt. He is a journyman who rose to the occasion for two fights.

 

[Westinaction]

I think he's rated just about right. A guy who overachieved by hard work and heart, won some great fights, became champ, but was never truly one of the greats.

I consider myself a fan of his.

Are we talking about Forrest or Bisping here? Lol

 

[Ibm]

Was just thinking about this today and fully agree.

 

[Drain Bamage]

 

[Claude]

He held the title as long as Shogun did, and only needed one title shot to capture it.

Weird.

Shogun was GP champ and was ranked #1 before signing with the UFC. Then he became UFC champ. Everybody knows he beat Machida the 1st time, thus the instant rematch. Lost the title to the best LHW ever.

Forrest wasn't time proven. He was relevant for 2-3 fights. His career is isn't comparable to Shogun's.

Cheers.

 

[JustBleed69]

Makes his debut against fucking Dan Severn at age 22.

Saves the UFC with the Bonnar fight

Submits prime Shogun and beats Rampage to win the title in one of the most tactical performances ever by a LHW.

Put everything on the line and fought prime Anderson when everyone was terrified of him. Takes balls

5 wins against 3 former UFC champs. Pure grit and determination, wasn't born as some super athlete, all hard work. Some of the best cardio in LHW history, underrated ground game, and just one of the most likable guys in MMA. Shame his injuries led to his retirement. I am glad the UFC gave him a job.

Also beat Rich Franklin

 

[Cindynice420]

Makes his debut against fucking Dan Severn at age 22.

Saves the UFC with the Bonnar fight

Submits prime Shogun and beats Rampage to win the title in one of the most tactical performances ever by a LHW.

Put everything on the line and fought prime Anderson when everyone was terrified of him. Takes balls

5 wins against 3 former UFC champs. Pure grit and determination, wasn't born as some super athlete, all hard work. Some of the best cardio in LHW history, underrated ground game, and just one of the most likable guys in MMA. Shame his injuries led to his retirement. I am glad the UFC gave him a job.

you're bringing this up now
Your a bit late

 

[Claude]

Fighting injured is part of the game, nobody is 100% when they enter the cage, and he was cleared to fight.

It was also his first fight in the UFC. Could be jitters, could be that it was his first fight off the juice? Who knows?

It seems as if you're making excuses for him? Look at where the man was in his career. It was literally the pinnacle for him.

Career wise he was at a high point. Shape-wise, he wasn't. This isn't debatable.

There's a big difference between minor injuries and injuries that don't allow you to train properly and require surgery and rehab.

Why wasn't the rematch competitive?

 

[Claude]

Yeah Rashad destroyed him! Swept the scorecards for the first 2 rounds and then finished him in the 3rd.

What's that...? Forrest won the first 2 rounds, and Rashad didn't have much offense until that takedown which led to the finish? Total destruction! Fookin scrub.

Why do we, as fans and total pussies in comparison, love hating on fighters and insulting them so much? There are posts like this abt EVERY fighter every day. It's fucking pathetic to even want to be that nasty. Nasty women on this board

This isn't getting destroyed?

The fact that you're giving Forrest great amounts of credit for winnning 2 rounds, which were far from one sided, and in which he never hurt Rashad proves how low your standards are for him.

The moment Rashad went for a takedown the fight was over.

 

[PabloMEX]

IMO the impact he had on the sport is far greater than his actual skill level.

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

Makes his debut against fucking Dan Severn at age 22.

Saves the UFC with the Bonnar fight

Submits prime Shogun and beats Rampage to win the title in one of the most tactical performances ever by a LHW.

Put everything on the line and fought prime Anderson when everyone was terrified of him. Takes balls

5 wins against 3 former UFC champs. Pure grit and determination, wasn't born as some super athlete, all hard work. Some of the best cardio in LHW history, underrated ground game, and just one of the most likable guys in MMA. Shame his injuries led to his retirement. I am glad the UFC gave him a job.

No.

About 95% of Forrest's career consisted in gatekeeping. He was never among the best in the division except for a very brief period of time. He was basicly only relevant in 3 fights: against Shogun, who was making his UFC debut and fought injured, against Rampage (very close fight) and against Rashad, who destroyed him.

Then he got destroyed by Anderson Silva (expected) and was never close to being a contender again. Fought Tito for the umpteenth time, got destroyed by Shogun in the rematch, beat an old Franklin and then reitred.

If anything Forrest is overrated around here because people pretend he was an elite fighter. He wasn't. He was a mid tier fighter who managed to get a couple of good wins. Elite fighters are time proven and for the large majority of his career, Forrest wasn't one of the best, nor even close to it.

He's basicly a one hit wonder.

I bet you two agree more than you disagree.

I bet you both have him ranked All Time (205lb weight class) between 10 and 20. Maybe between 8 and 22.

Nitpickers can debate whether he belongs higher or lower on that list than, say, Arona. But those are just minor details. Generally, you guys mostly agree on the bigger picture. I'm guessing.

 

[Ying Li]

He had a legit run

Nice guy

 

[submerged88]

I couldnt stand forrest. I hated his bro vibe, awe shucks im just an average guy but im awesome and i make other bros laugh and believe we can beat anyone. In the bar our table was the only one cheering when rashad tkoed him, all the douchebags were silent.
The only time i ever cheered for him was against overrated shogun. Shogun fans used to claim none of his losses were real due to one excuse or another and that includes the forrest victory.

 

[Mongoosemk12]

Lol regardless of anyone's opinion on Forrest, Shogun fans be coming out the woodwork in this thread. God forbid anyone say it but.... perhaps Shogun was overrated? In all seriousness, I love the dude's style and he beat some of the best in Pride. He really fell susceptible to injury in the UFC though and it damaged his career.

 

[Mixfight]

No.

About 95% of Forrest's career consisted in gatekeeping. He was never among the best in the division except for a very brief period of time. He was basicly only relevant in 3 fights: against Shogun, who was making his UFC debut and fought injured, against Rampage (very close fight) and against Rashad, who destroyed him.

Then he got destroyed by Anderson Silva (expected) and was never close to being a contender again. Fought Tito for the umpteenth time, got destroyed by Shogun in the rematch, beat an old Franklin and then reitred.

If anything Forrest is overrated around here because people pretend he was an elite fighter. He wasn't. He was a mid tier fighter who managed to get a couple of good wins. Elite fighters are time proven and for the large majority of his career, Forrest wasn't one of the best, nor even close to it.

He's basicly a one hit wonder.

Fact city.

 

[cws80us]

Average fighter at best who took advantage of some good opportunities to get to the top. He was tough, durable, not particularly great at any one skill, just well rounded and fought smartly. The Bonnar fight although very entertaining and legendary was by no means a technical beauty. Two guys just giving all they had for 3 rounds. The Shogun fight to this day I don't know what happened. Some say it was the knee injuries, maybe it was the difference in rules between Pride and UFC or fighting in a cage instead of a ring, but Shogun looked nothing like the killer that he had been in Pride. The Rampage fight still frustrates me to no end. I thought Rampage gotten the decision anyway because it was a close fight and the champion should get the benefit of the doubt on those situations. But, he just fought very tentatively especially after the first round when he had a couple knock downs and nearly had Forrest out. So, I'll give Forest credit for being a tough guy who made it all the way to the top mostly on heart and determination. But, he didn't stay there very long, so it's hard to put up there with the greats.