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Absolutely right. I agree.Tom, it's the only fight that makes sense to unify the titles
Pereira should be fighting Ankalaev next
Absolutely right. I agree.Tom, it's the only fight that makes sense to unify the titles
Pereira should be fighting Ankalaev next
I think that is what the real issue is with Jones.In other words, Jones doesn't want to fight Aspinall.
Thats unfair. Gane has submissions in the UFC.Jones vs Alex would be Jones vs Gane 2
Agree with almost all of this.Unfortunately this is the most disingenuous BS from Jon Jones as he has NO intention of fighting either Pereira nor Aspinall. He will say he does but I do not believe him.
I'd be very happy if Jones proved me wrong though!
1. First he has to beat Miocic (might be tough in itself)
2. Then he has to not retire (might be tougher as many people believe he instantly retires after the Miocic fight)
3. Then he has to realize that Pereira is in a different weight class to him so ....there's that
4. Then he has to realize that Aspinall might well submit him, and he IS scared of losing his "perfect" unbeaten record (let's forget about the Mark Hamill debacle).
Final comment.... Jones does not actually say "who do you want to see me fight next?" at all. He says "who would you guys want to see me fight the most?". I think his wording is important here as I very much doubt he will ever fight either Pereira/Aspinall.
Why are you so convinced Aspinall would beat Jon and Pereira would be such an easy victory for Jon? Pereira does have the grappling weakness and it's possible Jon just takes him down and subs him but Alex also has the striking pedigree and power to maybe shock the world. What is Tom's path to victory? Outgrapple Jon, unlikely, knock him out, also unlikely. I'm not sure why so many people are convinced Jon would just be some easy win on Tom's resume. There is literally nothing to suggest that would be the case. In fact, we've seen this song and dance it feels like 20 times already and Jon always wins.Agree with almost all of this.
Where I differ, is I think if Poatan is a popular enough option and enough fans want it, I do think Jon actually campaigns for that fight.
Alex is probably the biggest star in the sport right now (besides Conor), he's on track to be the only 3 weight champ ever, and most importantly, he is tailor made for Jon to get a flawless victory over him.
If Aspinall wins the poll handily, I think Jon quietly retires as was originally planned.
yes I think you're right on that.Agree with almost all of this.
Where I differ, is I think if Poatan is a popular enough option and enough fans want it, I do think Jon actually campaigns for that fight.
Alex is probably the biggest star in the sport right now (besides Conor), he's on track to be the only 3 weight champ ever, and most importantly, he is tailor made for Jon to get a flawless victory over him.
If Aspinall wins the poll handily, I think Jon quietly retires as was originally planned.
Poatan literally got swept and controlled on the ground by Adesanya. Any chance he has against Jones is on the feet but there is zero chance Jon takes any chances and stands long enoughfor Alex to get anything going. He shoots right out of the gate and Poatan has been taken down by everybody that has tried to. He ain't making it out of round 1 with Jones.Why are you so convinced Aspinall would beat Jon and Pereira would be such an easy victory for Jon? Pereira does have the grappling weakness and it's possible Jon just takes him down and subs him but Alex also has the striking pedigree and power to maybe shock the world. What is Tom's path to victory? Outgrapple Jon, unlikely, knock him out, also unlikely. I'm not sure why so many people are convinced Jon would just be some easy win on Tom's resume. There is literally nothing to suggest that would be the case. In fact, we've seen this song and dance it feels like 20 times already and Jon always wins.
I know I'm not going to change your mind as you're a fan of Tom's, but I think if Jon fought both of them 100 times Alex would win more times than Tom would. Every fight/round starts standing and I can confidently say Jon has fought better grapplers and strikers than Tom. I can't say with great confidence Jon has ever fought a more dangerous striker than Pereira. It's just a matter of opinion but I see Alex as having a better chance.Poatan literally got swept and controlled on the ground by Adesanya. Any chance he has against Jones is on the feet but there is zero chance Jon takes any chances and stands long enoughfor Alex to get anything going. He shoots right out of the gate and Poatan has been taken down by everybody that has tried to. He ain't making it out of round 1 with Jones.
Lmao at Aspinall not having a path to victory. He is bigger, heavier, younger, more powerful, and much, MUCH faster than either Jon or Poatan. Everything the does is fight ending, both on the feet and on the ground. He's literally a threat to Jon anywhere the fight goes.
Nobody thinks Jon would be an easy fight for Tom, he's Jon Jones and can beat anybody. But nobody thinks Aspinall is a walk in the park for Jones either, which is why his fans want to see any fight BUT that one.
The only people trying to make out like Poatan is either, a more intriguing fight, or, has more chance of winning than Aspinall are Jones fans, and they aren't being very slick about it either. I'm as big a fan of Pereira as anybody else but he is a walk over for Jon.
Same here bud, I know you're a Jones fan but you're going to have to try harder than that to convince me Jones vs Poatan is in any way a competitive fight. This isn't kickboxing. ThThere'a reason Jones is angling for the Stipe and Poatan fights and it isn't because he sees then as the biggest threats to him.I know I'm not going to change your mind as you're a fan of Tom's, but I think if Jon fought both of them 100 times Alex would win more times than Tom would. Every fight/round starts standing and I can confidently say Jon has fought better grapplers and strikers than Tom. I can't say with great confidence Jon has ever fought a more dangerous striker than Pereira. It's just a matter of opinion but I see Alex as having a better chance.
Tom might end up proving himself to be a world beater but as of right now there are still concerns over his gastank and beating Volkov, Spivac, Tybura, Arlovski doesn't really prove that he would be nearly as successful against someone like Jones who has 16 wins in title fights with 0 losses. Yes Sergei was a great win I'll give him that one.
My opinion could change in the future but Alex is proven in the striking department, much more proven than Tom is in the grappling and striking departments.
Also, for what it's worth I don't think Jon is ducking Tom. Jon has never ducked anyone and Jon has beat better fighters. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
UPDATE:
Bones wants Poatan