Law Florida to eliminate ALL vaccine mandates

Sinister said:
No one was ever told that. People have always been free to ask Doctors questions, or look up information of their own. Always.

You're making up a problem that only exists in your head, and then arguing it to people who dont advocate that. Which is called straw-manning.
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They are free to ask but discouraged it. It would be better to have the meeting like I said. What about that do you think is wrong.
 
oldshadow said:
They are free to ask but discouraged it. It would be better to have the meeting like I said. What about that do you think is wrong.
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People are not discouraged from reading or asking questions. And if they have a Doctor that discourages asking questions. They are free to not go to that Doctor.

I think any needless bureaucracy to fix what isnt broken is wrong. And I thought conservatives felt that way, too. Guess I was wrong about that.
 
Cajun said:
Most people don't fight childhood vaccines bud. I think there are also some generational issues here. Our parents/grandparents living through the smallpox scare, polio and some of the other things that were removed by vaccines gave them a different perspective which they passed on to their kids. Now we're a few generations removed from some of the more serious or disruptive ones so there is little experience to draw on.
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I remember when polio was pushed in mass but there were still people around that had it.
 
Sinister said:
People are not discouraged from reading or asking questions. And if they have a Doctor that discourages asking questions. They are free to not go to that Doctor.

I think any needless bureaucracy to fix what isnt broken is wrong. And I thought conservatives felt that way, too. Guess I was wrong about that.
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Yea just take the shots and dont bother with questions.
 
oldshadow said:
They are free to ask but discouraged it. It would be better to have the meeting like I said. What about that do you think is wrong.
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Yeah, you’re free to ask questions and nod your head in agreement with the “safe and effective” rhetoric. Anything else is “frowned upon” up to and including being excluded from the practice… that was my experience, at least.
 
Scerpi said:
Yay for you

My neighbor has a full blown non-verbal autistic kid, he's 9 and still behaves like a toddler. Has complete meltdowns when his schedule is altered or is faced with something unexpected. Can't handle loud or annoying noises.

And she's not the only friend I know with autistic children

That was unheard when I was growing up in the 70's/80's

Fun how personal experiences work...
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Knowing an autistic person was not unheard of in the 80s. Where the heck do you guys come up with this stuff?
 
Sinister said:
No one was ever told that. People have always been free to ask Doctors questions, or look up information of their own. Always.

You're making up a problem that only exists in your head, and then arguing it to people who dont advocate that. Which is called straw-manning.
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tbf he's actually just regurgitating shit he heard from RFK or Phite Phan or whatever.
 
So a lot of liberals were antivax before covid, it was a thing. It seems as if covid made being antivax more popular on the right now. Weird.
 
badascan said:
Shouldn't a working vaccine protect one from the scary things? Why would you worry about something if you were vaccinated against it?
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That’s actually been covered itt like so many times before you came in and dropped this turd of a comment. That’s ignoring the fact that I know damn well you’ve seen the reasons like a million times over the last 5 years.

We get it. You don’t want to believe the facts. That’s cool. Stop pretending you’ve never seen them though
 
IDGETKTFO said:
Why do you guys have to make this a left vs right issue? I know plenty of people on both sides that think anti vaxxers are morons. Myself included.
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At its core it isn’t. Unfortunately we have gone full retard in the US and every contentious issue has to get shoved into a left or right box
 
IDGETKTFO said:
Why do you guys have to make this a left vs right issue? I know plenty of people on both sides that think anti vaxxers are morons. Myself included.
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It became much more of a left vs right issue when, during a massive pandemic, the President panic wrestled his own incompetence at dealing with the issue. Trump specifically politicized covid, and the anti-vax brigade wedged themselves into every available crevice. It's about power, not health.
 
Scerpi said:
Why not? If you're fully vaccinated, what do you have to worry about?

Listen to the clowns saying they get the "jab" to prevent their elder family members from getting sick

It makes zero sense

- Are you family members vaxed? Yes? Then they should be fine whether you have it or not
- You get vaccinated anyway... Does it prevent you from getting sick? No... Then it doesn't matter to your elderly family member if your or they are vaccinated.
- Oh!! But doesn't it prevent your family member from getting Covid if you're vaxed and infected with Covid? No

Please make it make sense

And who gives a fuck if one more asshat declares "I'm never visiting Florida"

lol... Oh no!! Bfoe isn't go to travel to Florida? But what if he has to fly there for some horrible reason, like fleeing a Blue State. If he's vaccinated, he'll be able to wander among the unwashed and ignorant masses without a care in the world correct?

lol..

So many of these vaccines are unnecessary and a cash grab. Get them if you want.

Are there vaccines that essential? Especially to young children? I highly believe that.

But a full review needs to be done on what those are and the Government Issued Pass on Liability from Damaging Patients needs to be scrapped. Its stupid that there's 70+ vaxes on the schedule for kids. When there were 6 for us kids in the 1970's.

Guess what these pharma companies will do then? Thorough safety testing to ensure their jab isn't hurting patients.

And the Federal Government is horrible to reimbursing citizens who are severely injured by vaccines



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Older people and those with conditions that weaken the immune systems often do not have a sufficient antibody response to vaccines.

The women in your post had a rare medical condition called Paroxysmal Nocturnal Hemoglobinuria which causes the blood cells to burst.






Because PNH treatment can greatly increase the risk of serious infections, it’s standard medical practice to give vaccines for diseases like meningococcal and pneumococcal before starting treatment.

Alexis believes that a rash that appeared within 10 minutes of receiving the vaccines proves the vaccines caused her injuries. However, it’s unlikely that a vaccine could cause a reaction that quickly. A more probable explanation is the parvovirus B19 infection she tested positive for, as this virus has been known to cause similar symptoms. Additionally, her lab results show she was already experiencing blood clotting problems, which could explain the bruising she developed.

www.voicesforvaccines.org

Did vaccines injure Alexis Lorenze?

Let’s look at a viral claim from Alexis Lorenze, who believes vaccines worsened her Paroxysmal Nocturnal Hemoglobinuria (PNH), and explore why her symptoms are more likely linked to a viral infection and pre-existing blood clotting issues.
www.voicesforvaccines.org www.voicesforvaccines.org
 
Sinister said:
You've seen my Sons. Middle Son was outside playing and scraped his leg on a rusty nail...puncture wound...
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Sorry bud just seeing this. Def its an issue but you can get a tetanus shot after the fact and its only good for 4 years. Definitely not questioning the effectiveness of this vaccine to prevent lock jaw. Ive had plenty of tetanus shots in my day as a preventative. Just saying as an infant may not be necessary. I'm just trying to look objectively at what we could cut out from infant vaccines if we chose that are not transmissible person to person like the flu
 
Cajun said:
Sorry bud just seeing this. Def its an issue but you can get a tetanus shot after the fact and its only good for 4 years. Definitely not questioning the effectiveness of this vaccine to prevent lock jaw. Ive had plenty of tetanus shots in my day as a preventative. Just saying as an infant may not be necessary. I'm just trying to look objectively at what we could cut out from infant vaccines if we chose that are not transmissible person to person like the flu
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I hear ya, I just dont see a need to cut just to appease apprehensions. But maybe it could be medically presented differently
 
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