Fiziev Will Never Represent Kyrgyzstan again

[MarleyLynx]

And dangerous.

I would say statists are far more dangerous but the overly religious folk are responsible for some terrible things.

 

[grimballer]

So what you're telling me is that in a time where we have genome editing and space travel there are people hating eachother over which fairy tale is better? Not even different fairy tales but hating off different versions of the same fairy tale? Mark me unsurprised.

well to religious muslims thats even worse. at least other abrahamic religions are religions of the book and they follow the right path, but they're just slightly misguided or weren't enlightened yet.

on the other hand theres only one islam and if you have different beliefs that means you're corrupting the faith.

 

[kingmob6]

well to religious muslims thats even worse. at least other abrahamic religions are religions of the book and they follow the right path, but they're just slightly misguided or weren't enlightened yet.

on the other hand theres only one islam and if you have different beliefs that means you're corrupting the faith.

Islam is abrahamic religion. It's the same crap, just with a slightly different twist.

Christians are not on the right path...they are going in the completely wrong direction all together, if you can metaphorically say that. It's all poop. Hope I don't offend anyone, not my intention, just opinion.

 

[Koro_11]

Religion of peace, plus different cultures so hard to judge, or something like that.

 

[Marfa]

They don't let fighters walk out with unofficial flags because they don't want any conflict with the actual ruling government of any country.

I guess they don't want to piss off any government; Beneil Dariush walked out with the Assyrian flag without a problem.

 

[Koro_11]

Islam is abrahamic religion. It's the same crap, just with a slightly different twist.

Christians are not on the right path...they are going in the completely wrong direction all together, if you can metaphorically say that. It's all poop. Hope I don't offend anyone, not my intention, just opinion.

That “slightly different twist” seems to make a whole lot of difference when looking at the Jews and Christians compared to Muslims, at least in the modern world.

 

[kingmob6]

That “slightly different twist” seems to make a whole lot of difference when looking at the Jews and Christians compared to Muslims, at least in the modern world.

We are going a bit off-topic here, but it's still design of the "system". What are Jews and Christians? Just humans. Same with Muslims. These are all labels, and ideological "skins", for the same reason, to create division and separation. All of these opposing streams of conciousness that comes from muslims, is also a design element. None of this is random or naturally occurring.

 

[Koro_11]

We are going a bit off-topic here, but it's still design of the "system". What are Jews and Christians? Just humans. Same with Muslims. These are all labels, and ideological "skins", for the same reason, to create division and separation. All of these opposing streams of conciousness that comes from muslims, is also a design element. None of this is random or naturally occurring.

I don’t disagree with any of that, I think all 3 are bad ideas, but one of them is in practice simply more incompatible with modernity than the other two.

 

[MarleyLynx]

Islam is abrahamic religion. It's the same crap, just with a slightly different twist.

Christians are not on the right path...they are going in the completely wrong direction all together, if you can metaphorically say that. It's all poop. Hope I don't offend anyone, not my intention, just opinion.

I'm a lot more tolerant of Christian theology tbh even though most don't follow the texts. Contrary to popular belief... the war that accounted from Christianity only makes up a small percentage of total wars and is massively dwarfed by their abrahamic counterpart. Plus, they make up a vast majority of the worlds charity and work to build up impoverished communities.

 

[kingmob6]

I'm a lot more tolerant of Christian theology tbh even though most don't follow the texts. Contrary to popular belief... the war that accounted from Christianity only makes up a small percentage of total wars and is massively dwarfed by their abrahamic counterpart. Plus, they make up a vast majority of the worlds charity and work to build up impoverished communities.

Its a matter of perception, knowledge and opinion that is individual to you. I do not think of Christianity in any better light than of Judaism or Islam, due to the knowledge/beliefs that I have acquired over time and that are part of me. I will however honor the human being that is seeking higher guidance, and his journey to find it, regardless of his current religious affiliation.

 

[pamirec]

Nasrat Haqparast walked out without his Afghanistan flag as well.

Nasrat’s situation was different. He wanted to walk out with it, but couldn’t due to the political issues.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

I don’t disagree with any of that, I think all 3 are bad ideas, but one of them is in practice simply more incompatible with modernity than the other two.

If Christianity had never undergone reform, it'd be every bit as brutal.

 

[brownsmith76]

Kids are brainwashed in school that "equality, diversity, and multiculturalism" must be enforced.

https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:520
A hadith says, "We came to a pond in which there was the carcass of a donkey, so we refrained from using the water until the Messenger of Allah came to us and said: 'Water is not made impure by anything.' Then we drank from it and gave it to our animals to drink, and we carried some with us."

Another hadith says that you will lose rewards if you keep a pet dog in the house. "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle."

They are not allowed to eat bacon. They are not allowed to drink beer. They have to fast during the daytime for a month.

Their females are not allowed to wear a bikini at the beach.

They believe their heroes will receive 72 women in paradise.

This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Islam is a set of beliefs that's been around for about 1,400 years.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

If Christianity had never undergone reform, it'd be every bit as brutal.

I'd also argue that if Christianity were the predominant religion in the geopolitical quagmire that is the post-Ottoman Middle East, it would be a much more brutal form than what you see in the west.

 

[pamirec]

Admittedly, "papakha culture" is a hard thing for me to understand....it's not entirely Caucasian, it's not entirely Muslim, not sure if it reps anything specific other than a region or a people that is obviously very dear to Fiziev's heart. It reps something deeper than what a flag would rep, I believe, but I'm not exactly sure what.

Fiziev’s nickname is Ataman, which I’m guessing is a Cossack thing and means chieftain. They wear papakha as well.

 

[Koro_11]

If Christianity had never undergone reform, it'd be every bit as brutal.

That’s why I said in “modernity”. Islam TODAY is comparable to Christianity during the Spanish Inquisition.

 

[Ryoto Machida]

Kids are brainwashed in school that "equality, diversity, and multiculturalism" must be enforced.

https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:520
A hadith says, "We came to a pond in which there was the carcass of a donkey, so we refrained from using the water until the Messenger of Allah came to us and said: 'Water is not made impure by anything.' Then we drank from it and gave it to our animals to drink, and we carried some with us."

Another hadith says that you will lose rewards if you keep a pet dog in the house. "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle."

They are not allowed to eat bacon. They are not allowed to drink beer. They have to fast during the daytime for a month.

Their females are not allowed to wear a bikini at the beach.

They believe their heroes will receive 72 women in paradise.

This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Islam is a set of beliefs that's been around for about 1,400 years.

Lol. Have you ever browsed the Old Testament? It's every bit as f'd up. The prophet Elisha called on God to send a pack of bears to maul a group of children because they laughed at him for being bald.

 

[Adamant]

He should become friends with Kadyrov.


Let him settle his problems.

 

[kingmob6]

Kids are brainwashed in school that "equality, diversity, and multiculturalism" must be enforced.

https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:520
A hadith says, "We came to a pond in which there was the carcass of a donkey, so we refrained from using the water until the Messenger of Allah came to us and said: 'Water is not made impure by anything.' Then we drank from it and gave it to our animals to drink, and we carried some with us."

Another hadith says that you will lose rewards if you keep a pet dog in the house. "Whoever keeps a dog, one Qirat of the reward of his good deeds is deducted daily, unless the dog is used for guarding a farm or cattle."

They are not allowed to eat bacon. They are not allowed to drink beer. They have to fast during the daytime for a month.

Their females are not allowed to wear a bikini at the beach.

They believe their heroes will receive 72 women in paradise.

This has absolutely nothing to do with race. Islam is a set of beliefs that's been around for about 1,400 years.

Race is just another way to separate us, divide and conquer. It is really just another "religion" so to speak, along with culture, language, national borders, or anything else you want to throw into a pool.

There is a huge pool of sherdoggers for example that "hate" fighters that are muslim, just because....which in a way is just inability to step over the noise that is fed to us. We are born into a predetermined set of conditions. Woudn't it be much better if our parents or teachers, first gave us the knowledge and let us choose whatever fits our views?

 

[brownsmith76]

Lol. Have you ever browsed the Old Testament?

https://www.thoughtco.com/tu-quoque-logical-fallacy-1692568
You are using the tu quoque fallacy to make a diversion about another religion.

This thread is about 2 factions in Islam.