FISA Abuse Memo, prediction thread (update post 120 maybe)

[waiguoren]

This get posted yet?

When RedState is breaking their foot off in your ass, you know you screwed the pooch.

https://www.redstate.com/patterico/...-of-the-dossier-had-been-disclosed-after-all/

Well, Well, Well: Nunes Admits the Partisan Origins of the Dossier *Had* Been Disclosed After All





"Your font was too small!!!"

So the FISC application had a footnote indicating a political origin of the Peegate dossier, but did not specify the nature of that political origin (DNC/Clinton campaign). That really doesn't bother you? We're talking about the power to surveil American citizens here.

 

[Tekk]

Well, Well, Well: Nunes Admits the Partisan Origins of the Dossier *Had* Been Disclosed After All

Well there goes that talking point, I'm sure the next Nunes memo will set the record straight.

 

[Falsedawn]

So the FISC application had a footnote indicating a political origin of the Peegate dossier, but did not specify the nature of that political origin (DNC/Clinton campaign). That really doesn't bother you? We're talking about the power to surveil American citizens here.

Considering that the Washington Free Beacon first commissioned Fusion GPS for the so called dossier, i'd say a "political origin" is the correct description of the document.

And do you think pointing out that it was completed via DNC funding alters the veracity of the information considering that it seemed to back up already existing FBI information? That was the whole reason the FBI continued to fund Steele.

Basically, the buzzwords aren't compelling. Also, fuck Carter Page and Devin Nunes for good measure.

 

[HomerThompson]

This get posted yet?

When RedState is breaking their foot off in your ass, you know you screwed the pooch.

https://www.redstate.com/patterico/...-of-the-dossier-had-been-disclosed-after-all/

Well, Well, Well: Nunes Admits the Partisan Origins of the Dossier *Had* Been Disclosed After All





"Your font was too small!!!"

@NewTimesRoman BTFO!!!

 

[SaiWa]

You can say it's a part of being human (something liberals especially, seem to be losing sight of in the present). There's only so much information the human brain can hold at one time, where you couldn't possibly expect to be 100% accurate in every little detail without meticulous fact-checking/planning done beforehand.

What separates Trump from the typical politician is he's not afraid to answer questions, speak his mind, be off-the-cuff; without any premeditation, orchestration, or teleprompter, to give off a perfect, clean response and image (and even those that do that, aren't 100% successful with it). I think Trump believes what he's saying to be true, simply because it's in his nature to speak in a spontaneous manner, without the over-calculation and concern for being wrong or looking like a fool. And it evidently has worked out pretty well for him up to now.

Wow you managed to type all this bullshit while sucking on trump's schlong.. Mavis beacon and Jenna Jameson would be proud!!!

 

[curryjunkie]

Here's a breakdown for the slow Democrat's.

If you put all the pieces together here's what you get. The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Bernie Sanders so Hilliary can win the nomination.
Obama's administration starts to request surveillance on Trump, his family, his transition team, and anyone associated with him.
Donna Brazil gives Hilliary the questions to a debate.
The DNC pays Christopher Steele to come up with a smear dossier about Trump.
The mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing women parts.
After all this Trump still wins the General Election.
Obama orders an investigation into Russia meddling in our elections.
Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data.
The Democratic Party comes up with a scandal that Trump Colluded with Russia to win the election with no evidence or proof.
This wild claim is backed up by the mainstream media.
Obama hold overs start unmasking Trump's transition team and staff members then release the classified information to the mainstream media.
Why?
Because the DNC and the Obama administration colluded with the intelligence community to thwart Trump's campaign efforts to get him elected president.
All this Russia collusion is an attempt to cover up the fact that the Obama administration, the intelligence community, the DNC, along with the mainstream media used our nations surveillance as a political tool to try to get Hilliary elected President.

This makes Watergate look like a kindergarten play. Let that sink in.......

TLDR ......

 

[waiguoren]

Considering that the Washington Free Beacon first commissioned Fusion GPS for the so called dossier, i'd say a "political origin" is the correct description of the document.

In an approximately 400-page warrant application, the primary source of funding of the (alleged) primary source material should be included. You disagree?

And do you think pointing out that it was completed via DNC funding alters the veracity of the information considering that it seemed to back up already existing FBI information? That was the whole reason the FBI continued to fund Steele.

The Nunes memo claims that Steele leaked contents of the dossier to Yahoo! News and that the resulting Yahoo! News article was submitted as part of the warrant application. That would indicate a shaky foundation for surveillance of a US citizen.

I suspect you don't believe that particular allegation, but those without a political lean would prefer to let the facts come out before rushing to judgment. Also, what is your evidence that the dossier "backed up already-existing FBI information"?

 

[waiguoren]

Well there goes that talking point, I'm sure the next Nunes memo will set the record straight.

Misleading headline. It seems the Court was not made aware of the funding source (DNC + Hillary Clinton campaign) for the dossier.

 

[Fawlty]

Misleading headline. It seems the Court was not made aware of the funding source (DNC + Hillary Clinton campaign) for the dossier.

Why do you insist on only mentioning one source? At this point you must know that it was originally funded by the Washington Free Beacon. It seems like you're consistently omitting that in order to make the DNC/Clinton appear more guilty of something.

 

[Tekk]

Why do you insist on only mentioning one source? At this point you must know that it was originally funded by the Washington Free Beacon. It seems like you're consistently omitting that in order to make the DNC/Clinton appear more guilty of something.

It's like all the Trumpbots got together and decided to keep omitting the RNC's involvement with the dossier

 

[waiguoren]

Why do you insist on only mentioning one source? At this point you must know that it was originally funded by the Washington Free Beacon. It seems like you're consistently omitting that in order to make the DNC/Clinton appear more guilty of something.

I'm pretty confident the DNC/Clinton campaign are the primary funding sources for the dossier. When WFB was funding Fusion's work, Steele was not involved and "general opposition research" against Trump and other Republicans seems to have been the goal. But the DNC and Clinton campaign took over in May 2016, and it seems Steele got to work in June 2016. See here, for example.

 

[waiguoren]

It's like all the Trumpbots got together and decided to keep omitting the RNC's involvement with the dossier

Go ahead and give us a source documenting the RNC's involvement in the dossier.

 

[Fawlty]

It's like all the Trumpbots got together and decided to keep omitting the RNC's involvement with the dossier

I'm curious who put them on it, actually. Which Repub clan has the most pull with them I wonder? Trump fans don't care about that fact because they see whoever did that as being anti-Trump, which is equivalent to pro-Hillary, which is devil stuff.

 

[waiguoren]

Why do you insist on only mentioning one source? At this point you must know that it was originally funded by the Washington Free Beacon. It seems like you're consistently omitting that in order to make the DNC/Clinton appear more guilty of something.

It's like all the Trumpbots got together and decided to keep omitting the RNC's involvement with the dossier

Representatives for the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative online news site, informed congressional investigators Friday the outlet had originally funded the research firm that created the salacious dossier containing allegations of ties between Donald Trump's campaign and Russian operatives, the publication said in a statement.


The firm, Fusion GPS — which has been entwined in federal and congressional probes into Russian election interference in 2016 — was retained by the Free Beacon during the 2016 elections "to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary," Free Beacon editor and chief Matthew Continetti and chairman Michael Goldfarb said in the statement.




Goldfarb and Continetti, however, said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now-infamous Trump-Russia dossier, prepared by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

 

[Fawlty]

Representatives for the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative online news site, informed congressional investigators Friday the outlet had originally funded the research firm that created the salacious dossier containing allegations of ties between Donald Trump's campaign and Russian operatives, the publication said in a statement.


The firm, Fusion GPS — which has been entwined in federal and congressional probes into Russian election interference in 2016 — was retained by the Free Beacon during the 2016 elections "to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary," Free Beacon editor and chief Matthew Continetti and chairman Michael Goldfarb said in the statement.




Goldfarb and Continetti, however, said they have no knowledge or financial involvement in the creation of the now-infamous Trump-Russia dossier, prepared by former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/27/trump-russia-washington-free-beacon-fusion-gps-244265

Thanks, but that really reads like a CYA/leave us out of this shit. A specific faction in the party would have put them onto it, I believe.

 

[HomerThompson]

In an approximately 400-page warrant application, the primary source of funding of the (alleged) primary source material should be included. You disagree?

I disagree that the dossier is the primary source material. Take me off ignore, pussy. You've been spamming shitty arguments for weeks now. Man up, and actually defend them.


Hey @Fawlty, will you quote this for me? Mr. 80th percentile has me on ignore because he's a chickenshit.

 

[Fawlty]

I disagree that the dossier is the primary source material. Take me off ignore, pussy. You've been spamming shitty arguments for weeks now. Man up, and actually defend them.


Hey @Fawlty, will you quote this for me? Mr. 80th percentile has me on ignore because he's a chickenshit.

Cibola! My life for you, Mr President. Bumpty bumpty bump!

 

[waiguoren]

Thanks, but that really reads like a CYA/leave us out of this shit. A specific faction in the party would have put them onto it, I believe.

Maybe, but there's no evidence for that. So far, the best information we have is that the DNC and the Hillary Clinton Campaign funded the Steele dossier. No reports from reliable outlets have suggested that the Washington Free Beacon funded the dossier, even in part.

 

[Fawlty]

Maybe, but there's no evidence for that. So far, the best information we have is that the DNC and the Hillary Clinton Campaign funded the Steele dossier. No reports from reliable outlets have suggested that the Washington Free Beacon funded the dossier, even in part.

Thanks. I'll have to stay agnostic about that for now then. There's no way the WFB was just freelancing, imo, but until we know the extent of their involvement from an independent source it's not worth harping on.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

Thanks. I'll have to stay agnostic about that for now then. There's no way the WFB was just freelancing, imo, but until we know the extent of their involvement from an independent source it's not worth harping on.

Weren’t they doing oppo research for the Cruz campaign against other repubs initially and that was their involvement. Then after they got out of it, dnc/hilldawg took over funding and hired fusion?

Unless I’m misremembering.