FISA Abuse Memo, prediction thread (update post 120 maybe)

[Oliver Clothesoff]

Ohr held two titles concurrently before being removed as Associate Deputy Attorney General in the wake of media reports on this matter (yes, he also leads a drug enforcement task force). What is your source that Ohr had nothing to do with the FISC application? I find that unlikely but am amendable to evidence.

It's also troubling that Mrs. Ohr aka "Nellie" was given 3/4 of a million dollars by the Democratic party and worked directly for Fusion GPS which of course links her directly to Steele and the Dossier.

 

[waiguoren]

It's also troubling that Mrs. Ohr aka "Nellie" was given 3/4 of a million dollars by the Democratic party and worked directly for Fusion GPS which of course links her directly to Steele and the Dossier.

I didn't realize that. Thanks. I'll look up that article now.

 

[Oliver Clothesoff]

I didn't realize that. Thanks. I'll look up that article now.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...als-wife-nellie-ohr-hired-to-probe-trump.html

A co-founder of the opposition research firm Fusion GPS acknowledged in a new court document that his company hired the wife of a senior Justice Department official to help investigate then-candidate Donald Trump last year.

The confirmation from Glenn Simpson came in a signed declaration filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., and provided a fuller picture of the nature of Nellie Ohr’s work – after Fox News first reported on her connection to Fusion GPS.

 

[Fawlty]

Top DOJ official demoted amid probe of contacts with Trump dossier firm

Until Wednesday morning, Bruce G. Ohr held two titles at DOJ: associate deputy attorney general, a post that placed him four doors down from his boss, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein; and director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces (OCDETF), a program described by the department as “the centerpiece of the attorney general’s drug strategy.”

Ohr will retain his OCDETF title but has been stripped of his higher post and ousted from his office on the fourth floor of “Main Justice.”

The contacts between Ohr and Steele, and between Ohr and Simpson, have not been publicly disclosed nor shared with HPSCI staff.

The demotion of Ohr thus marked the second time within a matter of months that the Justice Department and the FBI have disciplined for misconduct a senior official connected in some form or fashion to the Trump-Russia case.

According to congressional sources, Simpson and Ohr met sometime around Thanksgiving last year, when President-elect Trump was in the process of selecting his cabinet, and discussed over coffee the anti-Trump dossier, the Russia investigation and what Simpson considered the distressing development of Trump’s victory.


How exactly Simpson and Ohr came to know each other is still being investigated, but initial evidence collected by the House intelligence committee suggests that the two were placed in touch by Steele, a former FBI informant whose contacts with Ohr are said by senior DOJ officials to date back to 2006.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...d-probe-contacts-with-trump-dossier-firm.html

Edit: notice the last paragraph fails to mention Nellie Ohr as an employee of Fusion GPS.

Looks to me like they moved him to avoid appearances of impropriety. Ball is still in your court, with unfounded allegations of misconduct alleged by Fox News, Breitbart, and Devin Nunes.

 

[waiguoren]

Ohr was counternarcotics and had fuck all to do with the investigation.

What's your explanation for the Ohr-Simpson meeting? Counter-narcotics?

 

[Fawlty]

If there's a tweet or pic embedded there it isn't showing up for me.

 

[JSnake]

 

[Throttlehead]

Well if Trump says something, its sure to be true...hahah
He only lies or tells mistruths 5.5 times per day since elected.

 

[Dolomite]

That's the same OCDETF that managed Operation Fast & Furious (until their guns were found to have been used in the murders of two Border Patrol Agents).

 

[JSnake]

Well if Trump says something, its sure to be true...hahah
He only lies or tells mistruths 5.5 times per day since elected.

 

[Throttlehead]

So you respond by showing a tweet of Trump lying? Figures!

 

[JSnake]

So you respond by showing a tweet of Trump lying? Figures!

If one believes what they're saying to be true, is it a lie?

 

[Throttlehead]

If one believes what they're saying to be true, is it a lie?

Is that supposed to be some high level 3D saying that comes from Trump university?

You can sum it up by saying "ignorance is bliss".

 

[JSnake]

Is that supposed to be some high level 3D saying that comes from Trump university?

You can sum it up by saying "ignorance is bliss".

You can say it's a part of being human (something liberals especially, seem to be losing sight of in the present). There's only so much information the human brain can hold at one time, where you couldn't possibly expect to be 100% accurate in every little detail without meticulous fact-checking/planning done beforehand.

What separates Trump from the typical politician is he's not afraid to answer questions, speak his mind, be off-the-cuff; without any premeditation, orchestration, or teleprompter, to give off a perfect, clean response and image (and even those that do that, aren't 100% successful with it). I think Trump believes what he's saying to be true, simply because it's in his nature to speak in a spontaneous manner, without the over-calculation and concern for being wrong or looking like a fool. And it evidently has worked out pretty well for him up to now.

 

[Throttlehead]

You can say it's a part of being human (something liberals especially, seem to be losing sight of in the present). There's only so much information the human brain can hold at one time, where you couldn't possibly expect to be 100% accurate in every little detail without meticulous fact-checking/planning done beforehand.

What separates Trump from the typical politician is he's not afraid to answer questions, speak his mind, be off-the-cuff; without any premeditation, orchestration, or teleprompter, to give off a perfect, clean response and image (and even those that do that, aren't 100% successful with it). I think Trump believes what he's saying to be true, simply because it's in his nature to speak in a spontaneous manner, without the over-calculation and concern for being wrong or looking like a fool. And it evidently has worked out pretty well for him up to now.

What separates Trump is ignorance and lies. " 100% accurate in every little detail " that is some serious bullshit, he flat out lies and knows he is lying. Your response is exactly what one would expect from one of the Trump cult, you are generally very uninformed because you get all of your information from Trump TV (Fox). If you were at all serious about the knowing the truth on any topic, you would know he lies constantly and consistently. If he believes his own bullshit, then there is a medical term for that, which means he is not mentally well. His own lawyers think he is incapable of not lying.
Trump’s Lawyers Seem to Think He’s Incapable of Not Lying

 

[DanMMAleague]

Trump going to try to flush his head down the toilet like the fat oaf that he is.

 

[Throttlehead]

Here's a breakdown for the slow Democrat's.

If you put all the pieces together here's what you get. The DNC rigs the Democratic Primary Election against Bernie Sanders so Hilliary can win the nomination.
Obama's administration starts to request surveillance on Trump, his family, his transition team, and anyone associated with him.
Donna Brazil gives Hilliary the questions to a debate.
The DNC pays Christopher Steele to come up with a smear dossier about Trump.
The mainstream media releases a taped conversation about Trump talking about grabbing women parts.
After all this Trump still wins the General Election.
Obama orders an investigation into Russia meddling in our elections.
Obama changes Executive Order 12333 to allow more agencies to have access to surveillance data.
The Democratic Party comes up with a scandal that Trump Colluded with Russia to win the election with no evidence or proof.
This wild claim is backed up by the mainstream media.
Obama hold overs start unmasking Trump's transition team and staff members then release the classified information to the mainstream media.
Why?
Because the DNC and the Obama administration colluded with the intelligence community to thwart Trump's campaign efforts to get him elected president.
All this Russia collusion is an attempt to cover up the fact that the Obama administration, the intelligence community, the DNC, along with the mainstream media used our nations surveillance as a political tool to try to get Hilliary elected President.

This makes Watergate look like a kindergarten play. Let that sink in.......

Well this is for the crazy right wing extremists who cant lay off Fox TV and Alex Jones.

House - Republican
Senate - Republican
Administration - Republican
Pres Archie Bunker - Republican
Mueller - Republican
Comey - Republican
Rosenstein - Republican
CIA - overwhelmingly Republican
FBI - overwhelmingly Republican

So the Fox followers and extremists want everyone to believe that there is a conspiracy against Republicans when they control every position in Government. Thats a whole new level of crazy. You are eating each other up....stop the crazy already. When Sean Hannity is the Presidents advisor, its time to rethink how crazy things have become. Stop the lies and tribalism!!

Liar in charge - His lawyers are concerned that the president, who has a history of making false statements and contradicting himself, could be charged with lying to investigators.

 

[waiguoren]

Liberal Donny Deutsch on memo release, calls for open insurrection against the US government, "our democracy is under siege. People need to start taking to the streets, this is a dictator. This is not something to analyze anymore...we need a revolution at this point." (MSNBC):

 

[Falsedawn]

This get posted yet?

When RedState is breaking their foot off in your ass, you know you screwed the pooch.

https://www.redstate.com/patterico/...-of-the-dossier-had-been-disclosed-after-all/

Well, Well, Well: Nunes Admits the Partisan Origins of the Dossier *Had* Been Disclosed After All

“Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials,” the memo alleged.

But in an appearance on “Fox & Friends,” Nunes was asked about reports over the weekend that the FBI application did refer to a political entity connected to the dossier. It is unclear precisely what language the application might have used.

Nunes conceded that a “footnote” to that effect was included in the application, while faulting the bureau for failing to provide more specifics.

“A footnote saying something may be political is a far cry from letting the American people know that the Democrats and the Hillary campaign paid for dirt that the FBI then used to get a warrant on an American citizen to spy on another campaign,” Nunes said on “Fox & Friends.”

"Your font was too small!!!"

 

[HereticBD]

Liberal Donny Deutsch on memo release, calls for open insurrection against the US government, "our democracy is under siege. People need to start taking to the streets, this is a dictator. This is not something to analyze anymore...we need a revolution at this point." (MSNBC):

Liberals are n-n-n-NOT unhinged.