Crime Firearms

Obviously the dude breaking into your room (at best trying to steal from you in the most intimate place possible) is just a poor old sap in need of a meal.

It’s truly crazy that people treat burglars like shoplifters.

Yeah considering the worst people break in while you're home. They don't value your life or theirs
 
Get a shotgun. Hard to miss and even harder to fire from inside your house through the neighbors house and hurt someone

Yikes.

An AR15 with frangible ammunition is your best home defense weapon, bar none. It will not over penetrate, you have plenty of ammunition capacity, you can have all the necessary accessories to make it safe (light, sling, optic) and effective. It's low recoil, more effective/safe than a handgun, way easier to use than a shotgun.

I always recommend people get a training class or two, cost considering. There's a plethora of appropriate youtube videos to augment. PM me if you want more state specific information. @hamlin
 
Obviously the dude breaking into your room (at best trying to steal from you in the most intimate place possible) is just a poor old sap in need of a meal.

It’s truly crazy that people treat burglars like shoplifters.
What's the big deal if a burglar ransacks your house and makes off with items that have sensitive personal information or irreplaceable sentimental value, isn't your home insured?
 
I always say the powers that be do not give a shit about any of us, if they did, they wouldn't be adding all this stupid shit that may help people get to jobs and spend money better but just make all of us crazier. The extra bike lanes, the scooters, all in a very congested city is senseless.
Extra bike lanes makes perfect sense in a congested city, its adding more car lanes that makes no sense.
 
It's really not hard to understand, if you don't like gun and think it's the polices job to protect you and your family don't by one. I'm sure the courts have made sure the police know they must protect you and your family.
 
WTH is a guard card?

Google tells me it is some kind of license a security guard applies for to carry on the job. I think that's what she does for a living but as far as I can tell and in the state I live in you don't need one of these to buy a gun. Maybe California is different or maybe she doesn't know shit about fuck ... I am not sure which is the case.
 
Extra bike lanes makes perfect sense in a congested city, its adding more car lanes that makes no sense.
None of it makes sense really. My point was that it just creates more conflict and stress which is what I'm observing.
 
Yikes.

An AR15 with frangible ammunition is your best home defense weapon, bar none. It will not over penetrate, you have plenty of ammunition capacity, you can have all the necessary accessories to make it safe (light, sling, optic) and effective. It's low recoil, more effective/safe than a handgun, way easier to use than a shotgun.

I always recommend people get a training class or two, cost considering. There's a plethora of appropriate youtube videos to augment. PM me if you want more state specific information. @hamlin
You don't need frangible ammo. Even drywall will cause M193 to fragment and tumble. The risk of over-penetrating is actually lower than with 9mm or 00 buck.
 
You don't need frangible ammo. Even drywall will cause M193 to fragment and tumble. The risk of over-penetrating is actually lower than with 9mm or 00 buck.

Yes, 100%, however -- with frangible ammo if you hit a fleshy target it does what you would like it to do, as well.
 
Protecting your family from those that want to do you / yours harm hasn’t changed in thousands of years, we just have more modern ways of doing so.
 
Yikes.

An AR15 with frangible ammunition is your best home defense weapon, bar none. It will not over penetrate, you have plenty of ammunition capacity, you can have all the necessary accessories to make it safe (light, sling, optic) and effective. It's low recoil, more effective/safe than a handgun, way easier to use than a shotgun.

I always recommend people get a training class or two, cost considering. There's a plethora of appropriate youtube videos to augment. PM me if you want more state specific information. @hamlin

You really shouldn't be encouraging her. A frail 60 year old woman who hates this nation and what makes it America who is highly emotionally unstable and prone to outbursts...

Bad idea.
 
Started shooting the newish 5.7 Rock from PSA. Really like it. Would consider a great back pack/camping/survival weapon.
23 rounds mags. Shoots decent groups for a sub 500 dollar handgun. That ammo is ridiculously priced though.
 
My state requires an ID to own a firearm, and I have had one for a long time just in case I wanted one, but never bought a gun. Have been thinking about it for awhile. I live in an urban area, and might just opt for a shotgun for my house. I don't really want to carry a firearm or have any excuse to bring it out unless I need to. Feel like with a handgun you can find more excuses to have it around often since it is so small and easy to carry. I'd rather not be tempted to bring out the firearm unless I really needed it.
 
Why is it a horrible thought process to kill someone who enters your home? FFS man, only rape murder assault battery and at best burglary happens after that.

This. All of this.

I know two people close to me that their gun potentially saved them from trauma or worse. One being my sister, another a close friend who likely would have been raped/murdered and her story was on the news, both in very well-off neighborhoods. It may seem like "oh you don't really need it", but you never know when you can avoid being a victim because you have it. Could literally care less what happens to the criminal who ambushes and puts a knife to a woman's throat and she turns the tables on him with her gun.
 
Started shooting the newish 5.7 Rock from PSA. Really like it. Would consider a great back pack/camping/survival weapon.
23 rounds mags. Shoots decent groups for a sub 500 dollar handgun. That ammo is ridiculously priced though.

I usually buy 150-200 rds of 5.7x28mm when I find it at $30 or below a box. I miss the days when it was just over $20/box.
 
But not at the same cost.

haha true. I train with cheaper ammo, then use my frangible ammo to zero and train with 20-30 rounds of double and triple shots with a timer and leave it at that. not a millionaire
 
I usually buy 150-200 rds of 5.7x28mm when I find it at $30 or below a box. I miss the days when it was just over $20/box.

Best I’m looking at is 68cpr flat ship/ no tax. Local FFL has the FN 27 grain for 40 a box by me. I miss that shit too.
 
yup, and he was trying to help the killer. Kinda ironic that his guard was down enough to give the guy his shot when the text messages show he had contempt for the guy. No one can be on guard all the time though and being constantly paranoid is no way to live. Some people never sit in a public place away from a wall, helluva way to live.
Who's the killer?
 
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