Firas: Conor is a bully fighter - gassed to Diaz due to psychological issues

Captain Herb said:
Hmm, so if he's right then he would expect Conor to win the rematch, being that Conor was winning until he gassed and Nate's element of surprise is gone.
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Nate was pretty clear on the topic of surprise. Motherfuckers.
 
Has someone pointed out that Kavanagh gave Firas props for this video?

 
helltoupee said:
"When you bully somebody, you don't respect the other person's ability to hurt you"

"When you are on top of the world, it makes you feel invincible - it happens to a lot of new champions...and that's why it's so difficult to become champion and remain champion"

"...you have to have a healthy amount of fear...I know Conor has that charisma, likes to build himself up, tell himself he's way better than his opponent...but the worst thing that can happen to you in a fight, is to be surprised, the element of surprise is the most powerful thing...there is no other advantage greater than surprise...Conor got surprised by Diaz and that's what gassed him out..."

"people make too much out of fatigue in this fight...Conor was preparing for a 5 round fight with RDA...Conor could throw an infinite number of punches if he wanted to...he was confused, and that's what led to fatigue..."

"McGregor does not have a cardio problem, he's a freakishly athletic and gifted human being...the reason he got tired was a psychological one, in my opinion"

"bully fighters go from a hundred mph to zero mph very quickly, why, because a bully bullies you because he thinks you are nothing, and when you surprise him, he becomes confused...especially narcissistic bullies...look at when Conor started to get really tired, it's when Nate started talking to him and bullying him back...instead of relaxing and riding out the wave...McGregor, by his own admission, panicked. When he got bullied, he couldn't handle it...it's part of martial arts that you stay calm when the other guy has the strength advantage (GSP vs. Hendricks)...his problem is a composure issue"

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But Firas said Conner was going to win the first fight...
 
Death By Samson said:
Lighten up Francis. I was just parroting the Conor fans' default go to line.

Conor threw everything that he had at Nate and still couldn't hurt him. It won him 1 round and cost him his whole gas tank. And then he got the life strangled out of him.

If you are thinking that I am a Conor fan you are very mistaken.
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How is anyone supposed to get that impression (the one you've posted above) from the one line original post?

Anyways, yes I'm glad that you understand the point Firas brought up. We are on the same page here.
 
vik93 said:
How is anyone supposed to get that impression (the one you've posted above) from the one line original post?

Anyways, yes I'm glad that you understand the point Firas brought up. We are on the same page here.
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Sarcasm is hard to interpret in the written word. I thought that the "derp" would relay my sarcasm. Sorry for the confusion.

I should have used one of these.

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FeloniousMonk said:
He's partly right. Conor was no
doubt surprised & panicked....
But I don't feel that McGregor is
a better fighter OR athlete than
Diaz. They both have their strengths.
But I'd take Diaz any day in a triathlon
or five round fight.

One thing's for sure... Firas' champion
never would've went to war like
McTwoTap did. Not even for a round.
Pierre would've shot for that panic
double LONG before Conor did.


McGregor challenged himself. Stood
in the fire until he couldn't hack it
& found his way out.

I talk a lot of shit to Mcgregor's fans...
but the dude comes to fight.
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Agree with most of what you said except for the part about GSP. If you are looking to fight smart, you ALWAYS take the fight to your opponent's weakness - fighter's who fight like they have something to prove are being courageous, ya, but not exactly smart.

And while I completely agree that Conor always comes to fight, I'm not so sure that standing and banging was any kind of act of courage. He was severely outmatched on the ground, his only option was to stand and trade. Conor was not scared of Nate at all, and his thinking that he could drop Nate with one punch, along with not worry about Nate's trademark pitter-patter, made him get frustrated and ultimately fatigued. You seem to be implying that Conor was a courageous hero that GSP could never replicate - I comlpletely disagree, reminding you that there is no such thing as courage with the absence of fear.
 
Mcgoat gassed early because he continued to absorb unanswered shots throughout much of that round, which he then followed up with a takedown.
 
helltoupee said:
Agree with most of what you said except for the part about GSP. If you are looking to fight smart, you ALWAYS take the fight to your opponent's weakness - fighter's who fight like they have something to prove are being courageous, ya, but not exactly smart.

And while I completely agree that Conor always comes to fight, I'm not so sure that standing and banging was any kind of act of courage. He was severely outmatched on the ground, his only option was to stand and trade. Conor was not scared of Nate at all, and his thinking that he could drop Nate with one punch, along with not worry about Nate's trademark pitter-patter, made him get frustrated and ultimately fatigued. You seem to be implying that Conor was a courageous hero that GSP could never replicate - I comlpletely disagree, reminding you that there is no such thing as courage with the absence of fear.
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If you want to fight "smart", yes.
GSP fought to outpoint. He didn't
ever work for a finish, even when
working within the realm of his
strengths.

Conor believed in his ability as
a stand up fighter. As he should've.
As for courage being involved,
it takes courage to even step in
the cage... so I'm not trying to
diminish any aforementioned
fighters' courage. With that said,
there is never an absence of fear
in a fight. It's about how steady
you can remain while in the fire.

It's my opinion that Pierre made
a career out of avoiding the fire.
Whether it be through an over
abundance of fear or because he's
a cerebral fighter who fought to
out point... I don't know... I just
know that him & Mcgregor are not
the same breed of fighter.
 
He says that there is no way Nate is getting KO'd in round 1 but then later says Conor can counter his lazy jab and even KO him in the first round...
 
FeloniousMonk said:
If you want to fight "smart", yes.
GSP fought to outpoint. He didn't
ever work for a finish, even when
working within the realm of his
strengths.

Conor believed in his ability as
a stand up fighter. As he should've.
As for courage being involved,
it takes courage to even step in
the cage... so I'm not trying to
diminish any aforementioned
fighters' courage. With that said,
there is never an absence of fear
in a fight. It's about how steady
you can remain while in the fire.

It's my opinion that Pierre made
a career out of avoiding the fire.
Whether it be through an over
abundance of fear or because he's
a cerebral fighter who fought to
out point... I don't know... I just
know that him & Mcgregor are not
the same breed of fighter.
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Why do you type like this?
 
Cauhnnir got fatigue because Nate punched the air out of him.
 
Fighting Gaming said:
I took away from that breakdown. Conor defensive ground game is weak maybe why they brought that new guy in? And Conor does not see any danger facing a guy like Diaz for 5 rounds and he my not be told this will be a war and should be prepared for that? Kavanagh is not a bad coach but maybe Conor needs a coach who will push him to the limit and tell him hes not so great?

Firas says Conor is a freak fighter and has all the skills to beat Nate, but hes mindset may not be there to fight a tough fight? He said Conor panicked as he was in territory that he did not understand and did know how to fix it. Interesting he said Conor was not tired, he broke? I agree with that somewhat but i think he got tired from throwing so many shots at a weight he was not used to fighting at too.

The thing is can Conor beat Nate in a rematch, if hes mindset is not prepared for a war? We just have to wait to see if he has got hes head right for this fight?
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The "throwing punches at a weight he's not used to fighting at" is total bullshit. His own team said he was over 170 in the cage against Aldo.

Yes the fight was at Welterweight but all that really means is neither guy had to kill themselves cutting weight in the lead up to the fight.

Using that as an excuse for gassing is absolutely ridiculous.
 
Conor was suprised at Mendez, and ended up finishing him in the 2nd. Nate was just better, period.
 
I don't feel like watching the whole thing, but I didn't see Firas mention anything about Nate's body shots.

I'm sure Conor was surprised (unlike Nate ;)), but that's not the whole story. Conor was receiving return fire and Nate had good body work. On more than one occasion I recall Conor taking a painful, deep breath after Nate hit him in the body. I also think Nate's punches to the head were taking it out of Conor too.
 
I agree that it was more Conor's mental state than his cardio, regardless I still don't think Nate wins again as I think Nate is the better overall fighter and a horrible matchup on top of that for Conor.
 
In other words, Nate fought Full Belly Conor.
 
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