Finland's millennial PM says Nordic countries do a better job of embodying the American dream

[phoenixikki]

• Sanna Marin, the 34-year-old prime minister of Finland, said her country and other Nordic nations were actually the best equipped to provide citizens with a chance to achieve the American dream: the idea that everyone should be given the opportunity to reach their goals and ambitions.

• "I feel that the American dream can be achieved best in the Nordic countries, where every child no matter their background or the background of their families can become anything," she told The Washington Post last month.

• Marin's comments seemed to suggest a tacit endorsement of Sen. Bernie Sanders, one of the frontrunners to secure the Democratic nomination in the 2020 presidential election.

• Sanders has long advocated Nordic-style socialism in the US, saying in 2008 that Finland has "one of the best economic and social models in the world."

Sanna Marin, the millennial prime minister of Finland, said her country and other Nordic nations were best equipped to provide their citizens a chance to achieve the American dream.

She told The Washington Post's Ishaan Tharoor at Davos, Switzerland, in January: "I feel that the American dream can be achieved best in the Nordic countries, where every child no matter their background or the background of their families can become anything."

The American dream is, at its most basic level, the idea that everyone should be given the opportunity to reach their life's goals and ambitions.

Finland can provide the American dream because of its public services, Marin said.

"We have a very good education system," she said. "We have a good healthcare and social-welfare system that allows anybody to become anything. This is probably one of the reasons why Finland gets ranked the happiest country in the world."

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I tought that the American dream also had something to do with hard-work, ingenuity and ambition. Well I guess I was wrong then, apparently letting the government steal your money, brainwash your kids to become feminazis and beta-cucks and let hordes of rapists and murders in the country is a better version of the American dream.

 

[Fugazy]

She should come up with her own dream.

Fucking slick mouthed hater.

 

[Raptac]

Yet highest suicide in Europe.

 

[The Diplomat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Finland

A mostly homogenized nation with roughly 5 1/2 million people. IMO there's a lot more wiggle room and less variables involved. It's a good model, though. Not sure if it's applicable for the United States. That'd be an interesting experiment.

 

[Xuh]

wood

 

[dittohead84]

It's a lot easier to manage a country's affairs when it's population is small. The Finns are typically a smart bunch so that helps. I have Finnish friends and have been there many times and they have that do what you say attitude, well they did a few years ago. I suppose that helps a society function a lot better than one full of shit talkers who promise the world and dont deliver

 

[TheGreatA]

Yet highest suicide in Europe.

Not even close these days. Lithuania is the undisputed king. Finland is pretty much on par with countries like Germany/Sweden.

She seems to be a lot more popular in American newspapers than in Finland. Nobody voted for her to be PM, she just got the job by default after another dude got ousted.

 

[Cole train]

bitch became a pm by the earlier pm being a fucking retard and getting ousted

no one voted for her

also her statement is somewhat true but at the same time not true

i also heard she has like 10 assistants because she doesnt know what shes doing lol

 

[TheGreatA]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Finland

A mostly homogenized nation with roughly 5 1/2 million people. IMO there's a lot more wiggle room and less variables involved. It's a good model, though. Not sure if it's applicable for the United States. That'd be an interesting experiment.

It could be applicable at a state-level, but federally? Don't know about that.

Finland has a lot of problems looming in the horizon, such as increasing debt, aging demographics, completely non-existent fertility rates, men dropping out of school/society at increasing rates. Marin is not the person to solve those problems.

By far, the most popular party in the country is "far-right, anti-immigrant" Finns Party. Social Democrats "winning" the election was the heist of the century. Promised basically free cash to boomers and didn't deliver on it.

 

[jk7707]

Probably has to do with all the forest raking they do.

That or the fact they have one of the best public education systems in the world

 

[Cole train]

It could be applicable at a state-level, but federally? Don't know about that.

Finland has a lot of problems looming in the horizon, such as increasing debt, aging demographics, completely non-existent fertility rates, men dropping out of school/society at increasing rates. Marin is not the person to solve those problems.

By far, the most popular party in the country is "far-right, anti-immigrant" Finns Party. Social Democrats "winning" the election was the heist of the century. Promised basically free cash to boomers and didn't deliver on it.

i really dislike th older pople around here.

vote the same guys in for 50 years no matter what

also i got a gut feeling we will be like a eastern euro country in future

 

[TheGreatA]

i really dislike th older pople around here.

vote the same guys in for 50 years no matter what

also i got a gut feeling we will be like a eastern euro country in future

It's easy to dupe people who are gullible and ignorant as hell, who get all their news from propaganda papers. Won't work on anybody who has come after the internet era, I would imagine.

Telling people that they're going to be given free money is just going to be laughed off as complete bullshit.

 

[grimballer]

bitch became a pm by the earlier pm being a fucking retard and getting ousted

no one voted for her

also her statement is somewhat true but at the same time not true

i also heard she has like 10 assistants because she doesnt know what shes doing lol

do basically Finnish version of aoc...

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

She’s right the greatness of America wasn’t built off of trickle down economics and bending over for the richest Americans. Investments in society helped build the American middle class.

 

[cincymma79]

Yet highest suicide in Europe.

But the remaining ones are happy

 

[Raptac]

But the remaining ones are happy

Or drunk. mostly just drunk.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Good. I hope the Finns are very successful and happy.

 

[ocfightfan]

Then she giggled and said "Math is hard."

 

[all caps]

I'd say you have a better chance at the authentic American Dream in Mexico.

 

[nostradumbass]

She's right, as long as your dreams are extreeemely modest and don't include having take home pay higher than 40k. US has 3x the number of millionaires as Finland does entire population.