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OnionKnight86 said:
@MMAisGod is Kimberly strong against JP ?
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Tbh I don't think so. Typically you'd think her pressure/mixup game would be, but I think it's actually still a disadvantage for her lol. EX reversal works better in this MU than most others, and avoiding her corner pressure with it is key. He can check her trying to special dash in, and can cleanly anti air her teleport on reaction with the color being different. Then, without her having an invulnerable WU, JP can actually bully her with +on block pressure and 50/50 setups that you don't have to fear EX DPs. Kimberly has a lot of "not real" pressure also that JP can punish sending her back to full screen again with a touch. This MU will probably end up in JPs favor as time goes.

Did you see that Sonic/Punk match? I've been screaming about this Cammy MU since pre-release lol. I think the only MUs that JP has trouble in are these:

-Cammy: This one might end up bad lol. I'm still grinding tech to figure things out, but it looks grimm lol.
-Juri: Almost as rough as Cammy, she has answers for everything, and you also can't zone her because she can punish you from full screen from one bad read.
-Chun Li: still need to play/see this MU more, but it felt tight the couple of good Chuns I faced. But need more exp to judge.
-DeeJay: Lolz don't get me started.

Cammy and Juri are requiring significant lab time and grind MU time just to hang in it. Other than those 4, I think he goes even at worst, or has advantage, against everyone else. Definitely Top 5 character early on. Lily and Jamie have the worst I think against him, and Honda and Ryu are probably smack dab even as can be.

EDIT: Watching Rivals now. Shine makes Kimberly look amazing lol. #NerfKim #BuffJP
 
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MMAisGod said:
Tbh I don't think so. Typically you'd think her pressure/mixup game would be, but I think it's actually still a disadvantage for her lol. EX reversal works better in this MU than most others, and avoiding her corner pressure with it is key. He can check her trying to special dash in, and can cleanly anti air her teleport on reaction with the color being different. Then, without her having an invulnerable WU, JP can actually bully her with +on block pressure and 50/50 setups that you don't have to fear EX DPs. Kimberly has a lot of "not real" pressure also that JP can punish sending her back to full screen again with a touch. This MU will probably end up in JPs favor as time goes.

Did you see that Sonic/Punk match? I've been screaming about this Cammy MU since pre-release lol. I think the only MUs that JP has trouble in are these:

-Cammy: This one might end up bad lol. I'm still grinding tech to figure things out, but it looks grimm lol.
-Juri: Almost as rough as Cammy, she has answers for everything, and you also can't zone her because she can punish you from full screen from one bad read.
-Chun Li: still need to play/see this MU more, but it felt tight the couple of good Chuns I faced. But need more exp to judge.
-DeeJay: Lolz don't get me started.

Cammy and Juri are requiring significant lab time and grind MU time just to hang in it. Other than those 4, I think he goes even at worst, or has advantage, against everyone else. Definitely Top 5 character early on. Lily and Jamie have the worst I think against him, and Honda and Ryu are probably smack dab even as can be.

EDIT: Watching Rivals now. Shine makes Kimberly look amazing lol. #NerfKim #BuffJP
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Diaphones Kimberly was really good as well
 
MMAisGod said:
Tbh I don't think so. Typically you'd think her pressure/mixup game would be, but I think it's actually still a disadvantage for her lol. EX reversal works better in this MU than most others, and avoiding her corner pressure with it is key. He can check her trying to special dash in, and can cleanly anti air her teleport on reaction with the color being different. Then, without her having an invulnerable WU, JP can actually bully her with +on block pressure and 50/50 setups that you don't have to fear EX DPs. Kimberly has a lot of "not real" pressure also that JP can punish sending her back to full screen again with a touch. This MU will probably end up in JPs favor as time goes.

Did you see that Sonic/Punk match? I've been screaming about this Cammy MU since pre-release lol. I think the only MUs that JP has trouble in are these:

-Cammy: This one might end up bad lol. I'm still grinding tech to figure things out, but it looks grimm lol.
-Juri: Almost as rough as Cammy, she has answers for everything, and you also can't zone her because she can punish you from full screen from one bad read.
-Chun Li: still need to play/see this MU more, but it felt tight the couple of good Chuns I faced. But need more exp to judge.
-DeeJay: Lolz don't get me started.

Cammy and Juri are requiring significant lab time and grind MU time just to hang in it. Other than those 4, I think he goes even at worst, or has advantage, against everyone else. Definitely Top 5 character early on. Lily and Jamie have the worst I think against him, and Honda and Ryu are probably smack dab even as can be.

EDIT: Watching Rivals now. Shine makes Kimberly look amazing lol. #NerfKim #BuffJP
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Caught a DaFeet tweet today saying he thinks Cammy will rank S as the meta progresses. BigBird also said Marissa has some answers for JP and zoners in general.

Still haven't touched the game yet. :(
 
what-wut said:
So me and @MMAisGod played for 4 matches and we stopped because of lag.

He admits I'm not shit
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Bad connection or not I walked in like "why is this Iron Level scrub really asking to play, he can't be serious".

Walked out like "yo this guy is legit, I feel bad for trash talking him" lol.

You can tell someone is good in a match I always say based on their movement and reactions. We planned to do FT10 but stopped at 1-3 his favor. If you were closer we'd have to add you to the online tourneys.
 
MMAisGod said:
Bad connection or not I walked in like "why is this Iron Level scrub really asking to play, he can't be serious".

Walked out like "yo this guy is legit, I feel bad for trash talking him" lol.

You can tell someone is good in a match I always say based on their movement and reactions. We planned to do FT10 but stopped at 1-3 his favor. If you were closer we'd have to add you to the online tourneys.
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Thanks bro, our heated trash talk got me to look closer into the match up I picked up a few things from online and the lab, also told a good JP player here that I wanted to practice the match up a bit.
So at least I've improved on it thanks to this.

Still think it's a busted match up though lol.
 
what-wut said:
Thanks bro, our heated trash talk got me to look closer into the match up I picked up a few things from online and the lab, also told a good JP player here that I wanted to practice the match up a bit.
So at least I've improved on it thanks to this.

Still think it's a busted match up though lol.
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LOL!! That's a good thing then! Yea I'm starting to lean that way more and more by the day after playing it more often too though. Probably the two most dumb things about the MU is being able to literally just walk backwards throwing stuff and teleport out if Gief DRs you because there's no real need to rush, and the EX Reversal giving out full combo punishes to CMD Grab. The latter is especially rough giving out huge damage when cornered, which is where you're "supposed to" want to put JP yet he punishes YOU for cornering him lol.
 
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