Fighters bench press

[Bjjpitbull8]

So you bench with a flat back and apparently bring the bar down to your sternum? Either your doing a close grip bench press/have a close grip width which is really not what this thread has been about, or you are lying and you do have some sort of arch. Either that or your bench mechanics must be terrible and your shoulders must be hurting, that is if you are pressing some decent weight.

This isn't a discussion about using momentum to cheat. That has nothing to do with this discussion. Raw powerlifters infact have to pause their benchpresses at the bottom in competition, hence this is how they train.

I don't think you understand the discussion here.

Plus, there is a study that completely disproves your anecdotal claim of drastic arches causing more injuries (This is what you are implying no?)

Infact the opposite is true. Flat bench pressing has much higher rates of injury

How relevant is power lifter strength with no endurance to anything other than powerlifting?? And why are you taking it so personal that some people don't agree with you. I can promise you my shoulders are just fine and I do the grips at shoulder with. I find it funny you assume to know how my mechanics are because I don't arch. I am not trying to impress anyone with my bench press numbers I do it for strength in every day life that's usable.

 

[shortlefthook]

Eater of souls you are such and expert and this life long lifter lets see a pic , because your coming off as an asshole no it all . Simple can the girl arching her back lay flat and still bench 225 ? No she can't

Litterally what i have been asking the answer i got was "strength is measured by 1 rep max"
Thats not what i want to know i want to know if a girl can bench that with her back flat whos stronger?
The answer i got was they both are pushing the same weight..lol

 

[flowers tiger]

I bench 465

 

[illclint]

Man, this girl's technique is terrible.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

How relevant is power lifter strength with no endurance to anything other than powerlifting?? And why are you taking it so personal that some people don't agree with you. I can promise you my shoulders are just fine and I do the grips at shoulder with. I find it funny you assume to know how my mechanics are because I don't arch. I am not trying to impress anyone with my bench press numbers I do it for strength in every day life that's usable.

Nothing personal here, I don't even know you. I am just analyzing your critique of my post and providing my response.

Powerlifter strength? What does this mean?

Shoulder width grip? So you're essentially doing a close grip bench press, which proves my point.

 

[TestosterOWN]

ITT bunch of guys who don't train and just lift. Thinking bench press makes them a better fighter.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

You rarely bench you act like you are such a expert you backing down from a challenge? I know.you have a camera.on your phone i will strict bench 255 for 2 i want to see all these things.you're talking about come into real world, this is why i hate arguing with people like you, you dont have the real world experience its all what you read online.
You went saying i dont go to the gym to backing out of a lifting contest.

I think body type plays a big factor in this, whats a wide bench for you might be narrow to someone else.
Personally my bench is shoulder width and my elbows are very tucked, i also drop the bar at about my sternum, i have tried the arch and i felt less solid on the bench.
I have no doubt that its a technique issue and if i could bench like a powerlifter that my bech would go up, but thats my point.

Yes this is true. It is also another point i was going to make... Big bodybuilders can often get away with flat back benching, because they have such a big chest girth, that their range of motion is less, removing the tenuous bottom position of the flat back bench

 

[shortlefthook]

Yes this is true. It is also another point i was going to make... Big bodybuilders can often get away with flat back benching, because they have such a big chest girth, that their range of motion is less, removing the tenuous bottom position of the flat back bench

Another thing that me a pit have in common is we both bench shoulder width wide, that might be why we can get away with a flat back, all i know is a feel zero pain, and a feel super solid on the bench.
My freinds go very wide, i have tried and my shoulders click so i stop.

everybodys body mechanics are different.
All im saying is IF i had proper technique leg drive arch ect, my bench number would go up immediately.
but thats because i have been flat back benching for years.
Thats why i said if two people bench the same, the guy who does it with a flat back is trully the stronger presser because they are doing the same with less technique to assist the lift.

 

[7th]

I see where the name shertards comes from. The guy asks how much fighters bench press and you retards go into a drawn out debate about the significance of the exercise. Get a grip.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

Another thing that me a pit have in common is we both bench shoulder width wide, that might be why we can get away with a flat back, all i know is a feel zero pain, and a feel super solid on the bench.
My freinds go very wide, i have tried and my shoulders click so i stop.

everybodys body mechanics are different.
All im saying is IF i had proper technique leg drive arch ect, my bench number would go up immediately.
but thats because i have been flat back benching for years.
Thats why i said if two people bench the same, the guy who does it with a flat back is trully the stronger presser because they are doing the same with less technique to assist the lift.

Yes this is true. I think the main driving point in the end is, whatever technique allows you to lift heavy and lift often, without injury is best. Because it's all about the long run in the end.

 

[STEVEN SEAGOLD]

And yes, heavy as in relative to the exercise AND technique. (which has been your point)

 

[Boy God]

Weighted dips, ring dip variations and HSPU's ftw.

 

[tombombadil]

Im not a fan of bench in the first place, but the way powerflifters do it now is headscratchingly strange. Squat is kinda fucked, too, with or without the ridiculous forklift suits.
Deadlift is still pure!

Edit - she is still strong, though. I only got to 245 when I was doing that lift, lol. Although, it was about a foot deeper of a movement, naturally.
I also have a hard time thinking of 285 as Wandys max, as per TS. He looked like one of the minority oldschoolers who worked bench a lot, and he was you know, to the gills.

 

[tombombadil]

Weighted dips, ring dip variations and HSPU's ftw.

rings build more upperbody strength than anything, I'd say.

 

[neomage2021]

There's a reason its called the bodybuilding style bench kid, it puts more time under tension under the targeted muscle groups chest and tris.
The powerlifting style is great for strength however even with all the calories and everything equal, a bodybuilding program will put on more mass, because its style of high volume low rest intervals is better for mass than low volume high rest intervals.
Learn something kid.

You are generally correct but this shows you have absolutely no idea what powerlifting training is like.

A little lesson for you scooter. A good powerlifting program is going to have multiple mesocycles. The first mesocycle before a meet will be hypertrophy and mass building. High volume losw rest. Next will be the strength mesocycle in which low rep ranges are used to make the new muscle stronger. The third mesocycle will be peaking in which very low volume 1-3 rep ranges are used to to peak strength and technique right before a competition.

Maybe when you grow up you will learn a few things kid.

 

[shortlefthook]

You are generally correct but this shows you have absolutely no idea what powerlifting training is like.

A little lesson for you scooter. A good powerlifting program is going to have multiple mesocycles. The first mesocycle before a meet will be hypertrophy and mass building. High volume losw rest. Next will be the strength mesocycle in which low rep ranges are used to make the new muscle stronger. The third mesocycle will be peaking in which very low volume 1-3 rep ranges are used to to peak strength and technique right before a competition.

Maybe when you grow up you will learn a few things kid.

Damn you're right im not a powerlifter. I lift for fun, i still bench more than you kid.
Wait what am i wrong about again? A bodybuilding program will put on more mass than a strength program, dont know what you're ranting about

 

[Eater of Souls]

You rarely bench you act like you are such a expert you backing down from a challenge? I know.you have a camera.on your phone i will strict bench 255 for 2 i want to see all these things.you're talking about come into real world, this is why i hate arguing with people like you, you dont have the real world experience its all what you read online.
You went saying i dont go to the gym to backing out of a lifting contest.

No, I am saying I owe you nothing. You cannot even support a single point that you made in this thread, you insult me constantly, then you expect me to do something for you? Can you be any more pathetic and entitled? And just because I rarely bench now does not mean I have never done so. You again are jumping to conclusions and posting based on complete ignorance. I told you that I focus on other lifts, that does not mean that is all I have ever done. Right now I am not bench for various reasons, including rehab.

But until you can show me something, such as supporting a point or being enough of a man to admit you were wrong, you get nothing from me. And yes, I have a great deal of real world experience, but again, do not let reality get in the way of you fucking up once again.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Litterally what i have been asking the answer i got was "strength is measured by 1 rep max"
Thats not what i want to know i want to know if a girl can bench that with her back flat whos stronger?
The answer i got was they both are pushing the same weight..lol

Which is the case. Strength has a definition which is:

1 repetition maximum.

As long as both conform to the same standards, which in this case would be a bench competition, the answer is obvious. You laugh because you cannot seem to understand, rather like a child laughing at adult conversation.

 

[shortlefthook]

Which is the case. Strength has a definition which is:

1 repetition maximum.

As long as both conform to the same standards, which in this case would be a bench competition, the answer is obvious. You laugh because you cannot seem to understand, rather like a child laughing at adult conversation.

I bench more than you mr expert/thread.

 

[Sinthesized]

Obviously.

And what exactly does this comment hope to achieve?