Fighters bench press

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Also mostly technique, not strength.

 

[Eater of Souls]

I said benching with a slight arch or flat back is the real benching.
Powerlifting meets will accept a flat back or slight arch, not what she was doing thats not a proper bench press, argue all you want, you're still wrong

You made a bunch of other points. Then you said you only had one point. Only one of them can be true. Clearly you lied again.

You also said you were done. Yet you are still posting. Another lie.

You did not say "what she was doing" you bashed powerlifting from your first post. You are lying again.

Would you like to continue to be pathetic or can you just slink off since you cannot man up to anything.

This is what you said:

Wrong, the bench includes the biceps for stabilization, the lats during the negative of a bench press.
So we have delts, biceps, chest, back.. That's every upperbody muscle group smashed into one compound excercise.
Powerlifting bench press bullshit aside,.when you keep your ass flat on the bench its a great measure of upperbody strength.

Not: some girl doing a bullshit demonstration that would not pass in a meet.

See the difference?

Hell, of course you do not. Or you will find yet another way to lie about it.

 

[shortlefthook]

You made a bunch of other points. Then you said you only had one point. Only one of them can be true. Clearly you lied again.

You also said you were done. Yet you are still posting. Another lie.

You did not say "what she was doing" you bashed powerlifting from your first post. You are lying again.

Would you like to continue to be pathetic or can you just slink off since you cannot man up to anything.

This is what you said:




Not: some girl doing a bullshit demonstration that would not pass in a meet.

See the difference?

Hell, of course you do not. Or you will find yet another way to lie about it.

Cause you're a little argumentative dweeb.
Go ahead quote them i clearly said flat back or slight arch go ahead im waiting.dork.

 

[ortizgnp]

Also mostly technique, not strength.

Obviously.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Cause you're a little argumentative dweeb.
Go ahead quote them i clearly said flat back or slight arch go ahead im waiting.dork.

And more name calling.

I quoted it. You made a sweeping generalization about powerlifting.

Anything else you would like to lie about? Or continue to lie?

 

[Eater of Souls]

Wrong, the bench includes the biceps for stabilization, the lats during the negative of a bench press.
So we have delts, biceps, chest, back.. That's every upperbody muscle group smashed into one compound excercise.
Powerlifting bench press bullshit aside,.when you keep your ass flat on the bench its a great measure of upperbody strength.

I am quoting it again for you.

The bench press does about shit to train the biceps or the lats (10% max activation, they do not get sufficient training stimulus during the bench press to consider it an effective exercise).
This was your first error. Of course, you have not yet owned up to it.

Then you proceeded to group all powerlifting bench presses into one category. This was your second mistake. You have not yet been man enough to own up to it.

Then you stated "keep your ass flat" and then later changed it to "or a slight arch" because you were already so clearly wrong, but you are not man enough to acknowledge that either.

Then there was your bullshit about injuries, until I posted the most comprehensive injury study ever done on strength training that showed you were wrong. Not that you were man enough to admit that either.

See a pattern?

Who am I kidding, you probably don't.

 

[shortlefthook]

And more name calling.

I quoted it. You made a sweeping generalization about powerlifting.

Anything else you would like to lie about? Or continue to lie?

Um thats right kid, what builds more muscle a flat back bench bodybuilding style or a powerlifting bench thats main objective is too push more weight?
You utilize more targeted muscles doing the bodybuilding bench.
When you keep your ass flat on the bench its a great measure of upperbody strength, Thats clearly a true statement.
If that was your attempt than it was weaker than your ego bench
Hmm i said biceps for stabilization and lats for the negative, 10 percent or 5 percent that statement is still true moron

 

[Eater of Souls]

Um thats right kid, what builds more muscle a flat back bench bodybuilding style or a powerlifting bench thats main objective is too push more weight?

Kid, lovely. Another mistake.

When you push more weight, you activate more MHC isoforms. I mean, look at the powerlifters in the higher weight classes, if the science is too much for you.

You utilize more muscles doing the bodybuilding bench.

Support this. Try actual science instead of the sheer stupidity you have been posting. Hell, you cannot even retract the scapulae as effectively during a flat bench, which inhibits the contractions of the rhomboids and the traps. One of the reasons why there are fewer injuries in powerlifting (something else you were wrong about)

When you keep your ass flat on the bench its a great measure of upperbody strength, Thats clearly a true statement.

It is also a great measure of upper body strength in powerlifting. Of course, you bashed the powerlifting bench from the start.

If that was you're attempt than it was weaker than your ego bench

I do not have an ego bench. I do not arch when I bench. Anything else you would like to fuck up? You have a perfect record so far. I have rarely seen anyone continue to such a degree when they are so clearly wrong about so many things.

 

[wufabufa]

Seems like a powerlifting bench could teach you to be more efficient with your movements. Just because a flat back style press takes you through a greater ROM and you aren't able to generate as much leverage over the weight doesn't necessarily make it better for your body. You may be using "more" muscle with a greater ROM and less weight with a body building form, which is great, but with a powerlifting style you're adapting your nervous system as well to recruit more muscle fibers due to the heavier weight you're pushing. Just my 2 cents. For shoulder health alone, putting that powerlifting arch in your back is better in the long run.

 

[shortlefthook]

Kid, lovely. Another mistake.

When you push more weight, you activate more MHC isoforms. I mean, look at the powerlifters in the higher weight classes, if the science is too much for you.



Support this. Try actual science instead of the sheer stupidity you have been posting. Hell, you cannot even retract the scapulae as effectively during a flat bench, which inhibits the contractions of the rhomboids and the traps. One of the reasons why there are fewer injuries in powerlifting (something else you were wrong about)



It is also a great measure of upper body strength in powerlifting. Of course, you bashed the powerlifting bench from the start.



I do not have an ego bench. I do not arch when I bench. Anything else you would like to fuck up? You have a perfect record so far. I have rarely seen anyone continue to such a degree when they are so clearly wrong about so many things.

Powerlifting bench will make you stronger, bodybuilding bench will gain more mass as it actually focuses on the chest and tris specifically without using leg drive or a arch to decrease to rom.
So you're wrong again kid.
And i meant targeted muscles, you use more chest in a bb press than a powerlifting press this is fact.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Powerlifting bench will make you stronger, bodybuilding bench will gain more mass as it actually focuses on the chest and tris specifically without using leg drive or a arch to decrease to rom.
So you're wrong again kid.

You are wrong every time you call me a kid. Of course, spewing forum memes is easier than thinking, which you are clearly not much good at.

And, of course, you again ignore the effect of weight lifted. Leg drive increases stability, this is never a bad thing, so why would you not wish to do something that decreases your risk of injury? Not exactly an intelligent position to take.

The arch reduces the opening of the AC joint, something that has been posted several times, not just by me, which increases rotation and decreases the strain on the shoulder joint itself. Again, safety first.

And here is a clue: if you lift more weight over time, you get stronger, and, of course, assuming sufficient rest and nutrient intake, you get bigger, because the peak power output of a muscle is directly proportional to its peak cross sectional area. Of course, I am sure you will ignore all of the powerlifters that climb multiple weight classes.

And, of course, you do not support your posts with anything.

So, do you wish to continue to be full of shit?

Why do you feel the need to continue to lie online of all places?

 

[Sgt Smith]

This thread quickly veered off course from the question originally posed...as expected.

 

[shortlefthook]

You are wrong every time you call me a kid. Of course, spewing forum memes is easier than thinking, which you are clearly not much good at.

And, of course, you again ignore the effect of weight lifted. Leg drive increases stability, this is never a bad thing, so why would you not wish to do something that decreases your risk of injury? Not exactly an intelligent position to take.

The arch reduces the opening of the AC joint, something that has been posted several times, not just by me, which increases rotation and decreases the strain on the shoulder joint itself. Again, safety first.

And here is a clue: if you lift more weight over time, you get stronger, and, of course, assuming sufficient rest and nutrient intake, you get bigger, because the peak power output of a muscle is directly proportional to its peak cross sectional area. Of course, I am sure you will ignore all of the powerlifters that climb multiple weight classes.

And, of course, you do not support your posts with anything.

So, do you wish to continue to be full of shit?

Why do you feel the need to continue to lie online of all places?

There's a reason its called the bodybuilding style bench kid, it puts more time under tension under the targeted muscle groups chest and tris.
The powerlifting style is great for strength however even with all the calories and everything equal, a bodybuilding program will put on more mass, because its style of high volume low rest intervals is better for mass than low volume high rest intervals.
Learn something kid.

 

[Eater of Souls]

There's a reason its called the bodybuilding style bench kid, it puts more time under tension under the targeted muscle groups chest and tris.

Prove this. And time under tension can be varied with rep speed. Again, you are confusing something else with ROM. First it was strength. Is there anything that you actually be correct about?

The powerlifting style is great for strength however even with all the calories and everything equal, a bodybuilding program will put on more mass, because its style of high volume low rest intervals is better for mass than low volume high rest intervals.

Prove this.

Furthermore the style of bench has nothing to do with training load, loading patterns or rest intervals. And many powerlifters bench with short intervals, including those who use the conjugate system, dedicating one day a week to speed work with lighter weights and shorter rest periods, which once again shows that you know next to nothing about this.

Learn something kid.

1. Follow your own advice.
2. Stop spouting forum memes that show your ignorance.

Anything else you would like to be wrong or lie about? Because really your stupidity is getting boring.

 

[shortlefthook]

Prove this. And time under tension can be varied with rep speed. Again, you are confusing something else with ROM. First it was strength. Is there anything that you actually be correct about?



Prove this.

Furthermore the style of bench has nothing to do with training load, loading patterns or rest intervals. And many powerlifters bench with short intervals, including those who use the conjugate system, dedicating one day a week to speed work with lighter weights and shorter rest periods, which once again shows that you know next to nothing about this.



1. Follow your own advice.
2. Stop spouting forum memes that show your ignorance.

Anything else you would like to be wrong or lie about? Because really your stupidity is getting boring.

Simple kid, the arch creates less rom which means less stretch which means less contraction.
You're clearly a moron kid

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Flat back bench is always going to build more functional muscle than an arch if you are comparing using the same weight. The person who does flat back will always be actually stronger than the one arching. It absolutely is apparent in building muscle; people always see more results in biceps and back as well when they force themselves to avoid arching. Have to agree with almost everything left hook says, however, I do have really long arms and for me it's just not an option to bring the bar chest high or use a wide grip without stressing elbows and shoulders. Results are always better when I force a greater range of motion. The muscle you build at the low point are essential for stabilizing.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Simple kid, the arch creates less rom which means less stretch which means less contraction.
You're clearly a moron kid

Of course, more name calling.

So ROM > than weight lifted? I guess you continue to neglect that? Of course, you ignore everything you do not wish to confront, to avoid being wrong.

And, of course, you overlook that when you get stronger, you can do greater volume with lighter weights. And, of course, the lower risk of injury training PL-style. And you will continue to ignore it because it shows that you are not only wrong, not even enough of a man to admit it, but not even enough of a man to simply stop being wrong and STFU.

With each post you just look more and more foolish. If you are so insecure you have to lie online, how does looking like this make you feel? It must be soul-crushing when you realize that no matter how full of shit you are, you will still be wrong.

 

[Eater of Souls]

Flat back bench is always going to build more functional muscle than an arch if you are comparing using the same weight. The person who does flat back will always be actually stronger than the one arching. It absolutely is apparent in building muscle; people always see more results in biceps and back as well when they force themselves to avoid arching. Have to agree with almost everything left hook says, however, I do have really long arms and for me it's just not an option to bring the bar chest high or use a wide grip without stressing elbows and shoulders. Results are always better when I force a greater range of motion. The muscle you build at the low point are essential for stabilizing.

Oh god, another person that does not even know the meaning of the term functional.

Studies have been posted about muscle activation.

Futhermore, the benefit of an arch is that it allows you to use more weight so your analogy as to which is better for building muscle is a false analogy.

 

[shortlefthook]

Of course, more name calling.

So ROM > than weight lifted? I guess you continue to neglect that? Of course, you ignore everything you do not wish to confront, to avoid being wrong.

And, of course, you overlook that when you get stronger, you can do greater volume with lighter weights. And, of course, the lower risk of injury training PL-style. And you will continue to ignore it because it shows that you are not only wrong, not even enough of a man to admit it, but not even enough of a man to simply stop being wrong and STFU.

With each post you just look more and more foolish. If you are so insecure you have to lie online, how does looking like this make you feel? It must be soul-crushing when you realize that no matter how full of shit you are, you will still be wrong.

If the weight is equal, if your back is flat on the bench you get greater rom, greater stretch, greater contraction and more muscle torn from that greater stretch and contraction.
You can cry all day, you're still wrong

 

[Eater of Souls]

If the weight is equal, if your back is flat on the bench you get greater rom, greater stretch, greater contraction and more muscle torn from that greater stretch and contraction.
You can cry all day, you're still wrong

The arch allows you to use more weight. One of the reasons why one arches. Or did you forget that?

And it is safer. Or did you forget that?

The arch allows you to use more weight, so you are going to get stronger faster. And the weight eventually has to increase to force muscular adaptation. But I suppose in your twisted little world, you are going to keep using the same weight forever. Of course, you said you were done, which was just another lie.

Would you like to be full of shit about anything else?