Female dating strategy (Reddit)

[Ice That Jaw]

It all seems very alien to me. I've been online dating for 2 years and I've only dated really sweet amd genuine girls with surprisingly few partners. That said, if a girl looks even the slightest bit slooty, I don't match. If I wanted something quick and easy, I'll just play with myself.

 

[minute bull]

It just doesn't seem to me to be the default for cheating like some people make it out to be.

It's just a party line. I don't imagine anyone's trying to establish any Truths or even axioms, at least not in a way that doesn't confirm the emotional bias.

 

[Canned Tuna]

Lmao didn't take long to find insight into female logic, though a simple "Actual communication is irrelevant to a relationship, your man should be able to read your mind" would've been more concise and to the point

Wow, that's pretty hardcore. The pervasive influence of the RomCom on full display.

 

[fungi]

Nah, nothing to do with the Berry bro. The bisexual thing is an actual problem for some women and most dudes don't disclose that to them.

Dude, I was saying that it was acceptable to joke at A.S.Deep's expense, as it was the Berry, and he understood that.

I was not arguing that bisexuality might/did pose a problem for some people, especially the hetero gfs of @BisexualMMA.

In fact, I know, I've read somewhere that bisexuals face the most discrimination among the Alphabet Inc. folk. Even the gays and lesbians give them hard time. I'm an exception tho. As a les bisque, I don't care if someone is bi.
TBH, I simply don't care much in general

Some commentators have considered the phrase to be ageist. The conservative radio host Bob Lonsberry went as far as labeling the word "boomer" as "the n-word of ageism". Furthermore, Lonsberry stated that "being hip and flip does not make bigotry ok, nor is a derisive epithet acceptable because it is new."

Francine Prose writing in The Guardian suggests the phrase reflects general cultural acceptance of discrimination against the old. Also writing for The Guardian, Bhaskar Sunkara criticized the meme in November 2019, saying that members of the baby boomer generation instead "need solidarity".

Several French politicians have also accused the phrase of being ageist, with MP Audrey Dufeu Schubert deeming it an ageist slur in a special report on "succeeding in bridging the generational gap and fighting ageism”.



@TheOldMan

Agree on the boomer hysteria. It's just that.

 

[fungi]

The closets are fuIl and it's the stigma.

The survey finds that bisexuals differ from gay men and lesbians on a range of attitudes and experiences related to their sexual orientation. For example, while 77% of gay men and 71% of lesbians say most or all of the important people in their lives know of their sexual orientation, just 28% of bisexuals say the same. Bisexual women are more likely to say this than bisexual men (33% vs. 12%).

Why do you think that is so?
Cause everybody is dissing the bi's. Even the homoes and the lesboes do. They are somewhat of pariahs in the world of LGBT.
That's why they hide.

It's only recently that the wave of fashionable omni-pan-kettle-teapot-sexual shtick, Miley, Asian Matt Dillon, Seeya, Bella Thorpe, etc. have somewhat destigmatized bi's. And the overwhelming majority of those self-claimed omni-pans have been females.

Nevertheless, bi-chicks have always been in high demand, ever since ménage à trois has been a thing. Butt, that info is lost in the anals of he-story.

Anywho, buncha angry boys with momma issues are flooding the forums. Sad shat!

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Agreed, plus every sub is an echo chamber of its on, which can become problematic.
Though I can see a bit of the same going on on Sherdog as well, but at least on a classic forum you can have overt one on one discussion without posts getting buried.

Yeah this is the issue with it, most subs are just like minded people agreeing with each other without anyone calling them out on their bullshit.

 

[horc00]

I stubbled upon female dating strategies sub forum

 

[fungi]

The bold is at least part of the reason why I "picked one" so to speak. It wasn't really that difficult, just with the stronger (ghey) feelings and where there's a far greater and more tangible sense of community and shared culture.

There's not really a "hetero community" and the culture is competition; gay culture camaraderie. Hetero culture is chasing hoes, gay culture is all bros. It's perpetual bliss. I don't identify as bisexual anymore even though I suppose it's something of an immutable and technical reality.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...th-risk-lgbt-heterosexual-issue-a7933806.html

Bisexual people experience more discrimination that other members in LGBT communities don’t, a new study has revealed.

Whilst previous studies have shown that bisexual people are more at risk of experiencing anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts, this new study published in Prevention Science, found that these risks are exacerbated because bisexual people feel as if they don’t belong in any one community.

“Bisexual people face double discrimination in multiple settings — bisexual people are often invisible, rejected, invalidated, [and] stigmatised in the heterosexual community as well as the traditional LGBT communities,” explained lead study author Ethan Mereish.

“Given that isolation and discrimination, bi people might be experiencing increase factors that might make them more lonely or isolated,” the professor told NBC News. In worst-case scenarios, this overriding sense of discrimination and ostracism can lead to poor mental health and suicidal thoughts.

I agree, that's basically what I said. Funnily enough, that article may have been exactly the one that I read.

My question is why are they osctracised more? If LGBTQ community is all about acceptance, supposably, why are bi's osctracised within that "cumbaya land"?

Also, TBH, I don't personally believe that LGBTQ folks are any less prejudiced and intolerant than the average joe schmoe. Being judgemental, pretentious, narcissistic assholes is, butt, truly human.

 

[fungi]

Bro, he's telling the truffles. Word. I confirm.

He was tryna put his nose* in thurr, butt, he was unshaven, so he pricked that forum with his stubble.

* - his stubble was "pricklier" than his nose, 'cause his nose is too small, it's obvious, it's right on his face. And he's also said so himself.

And do you know what they say about dudes with small noses?

I stubbled upon female dating strategies sub forum on Reddit and all I can say is WOW!

 

[The_Renaissance]

Thought I'd switch up the normal girl problem convo around here. I stubbled upon female dating strategies sub forum on Reddit and all I can say is WOW!

Worth a look if for nothing else than go to see what the average guy is up against in the dating scene.

I know that men can be quite delusional, especially when it comes to chicks, but GODDAMN, this is a whole other level.

Never in my life have I seen a group of people talk themselves up while simultaneously, subconsciously, admitting they are garbage people and have no clue what they are doing.

The main theme of every thread in the sub forum (regardless of actual labeled topic) is how awesome women are, how women hold all the power in the dating scene, and how, despsite these factors, women still can't choose the right men lol.

After reading just a few posts, it becomes evidently clear that probably 90% of those women need a man to tell them to STFU and dick the attitude out of them.

How can these chicks get that, when the whole world is telling them thats not what they need and even worse, not what they want.

They do hold all the cards, though. It's why on Tinder a lot of them make it clear that unless your first message stands out, they;ll be deleting the match - a 7/10 girl on Tinder probably has around 20-30 blokes messaging her at any one time. Lots of them out of her league as well, just hungry blokes looking for a shag. I'd hate to imagine the type of numbers a glamour model type has on a daily basis, probably 100s.

 

[El Panteron]

The closets are fuIl and it's the stigma.

The survey finds that bisexuals differ from gay men and lesbians on a range of attitudes and experiences related to their sexual orientation. For example, while 77% of gay men and 71% of lesbians say most or all of the important people in their lives know of their sexual orientation, just 28% of bisexuals say the same. Bisexual women are more likely to say this than bisexual men (33% vs. 12%).

100% agreed, and it's because straight people really struggle with bisexuals and mostly with bisexual men.
When you're gay you have a "safety net", you won't get discriminated by other gay people generally speaking and you can't get shit from your partners as you're on the same boat, but the gay community tends to be closed as it is very political and it's about their own body and sexual experience (same reason why feminists can get insufferable: when it's about your own body shit gets serious), and seeing a person doing "straight stuff" and calling themselves queer may be seen as an invasion.
Plus I think (sadly I have no certain info on this) that people tend to see sexual orientation as "one thing", you like this so you fuck this. Now whoever studied the tiniest bit of psychology knows this isn't the case and every human has bi tendencies at tender age and throughout puberty before settling or becoming bisexual, but others who didn't get such info struggle with that concept and it honestly makes sense: most adults have a binary view on sexual attraction (and many many others don't even accept the existence of gay people).

Lastly it makes sense bi men are the ones struggling the most. Us bois are insecure little shits for the most part and whatever makes us question masculinity is a big no.

Which is crazy, when my girlfriend told me she's bi all I could think of was "THREESOME FUCK YEAH". Of course it never happened but that's the mindset.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Found this in one of the reddits

We're really heading in the right direction since women gained the social advantage.

 

[minute bull]

My question is why are they osctracised more? If LGBTQ community is all about acceptance, supposably, why are bi's osctracised within that "cumbaya land"?

It's not as hypocritical as it seems you're making it out to be. Groups serve different functions and they are often called the same thing. A bisexual person on his or her own is not the same as a bisexual person who has aligned with a political movement. One is an identity, the other is a component for progress. The LGBTQ party line is about acceptance, but its origin is obviously "ACCEPT ME" because of all the disturbing incidents where they haven't been accepted. There is less emphasis on acceptance being a two-way street in this case, because ACCEPT ME is dealing with politics while the two-way street is being invoked as a zinger.

The perception that bisexuals get ostracized more is because of an illusion. Here's an example of the illusion.

• Everyone who hates gays are lesbians and straights.
• Everyone who hates lesbians are straights and gays.
• Since bisexuals are gays, lesbians, and straights, then the number that hates them must be AT LEAST DOUBLE the preceding.

I mean this doesn't even get into the self-loathers. But remember: what I said was an illusion. It has no basis in fact, it just MAY seem like it does: like the idea that one group is more hated than another group. This is not to overlook the very real problems between groups -- gender, racial, religious, or otherwise ideological -- but rather to understand that the concept of GROUPS carries different dimensions and aspects.

 

[fungi]

I don't know (@fungi) but I never felt ostracized and mostly put any feeling of isolation down to my own lack of engagement. The number of openly bisexual men is still so small that we may as well not be. You just can't be part of this when people feel they have to consciously conceal it and their extent of involvement is creeping around with faceless geo-social app profiles. It's harsh but they need to accept themselves first because that shit ain't it, and it's absolutely no kind of life.

That's my point. They can't even be themselves around their close ones.

However,

Well, if a certain action doubles his chances for a date on a Saturday night, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

I theorize it's all about envy and fear. Dudes envy them because bi's literally have double the size of their respective "fishing pool". Chicks are nervous of dating a bi-guy, because as you said, there's twice the risk of someone taking that bi-guy away.

And the stigma is still very strong. The homoes and the dukes are simply jelly, again double the choice of dating partners.

Butt, it's just my opinion.

 

[fungi]

...
The perception that bisexuals get ostracized more is because of an illusion. Here's an example of the illusion.

• Everyone who hates gays are lesbians and straights.
• Everyone who hates lesbians are straights and gays.
• Since bisexuals are gays, lesbians, and straights, then the number that hates them must be AT LEAST DOUBLE the preceding.

I mean this doesn't even get into the self-loathers. But remember: what I said was an illusion. It has no basis in fact, it just MAY seem like it does: like the idea that one group is more hated than another group. This is not to overlook the very real problems between groups -- gender, racial, religious, or otherwise ideological -- but rather to understand that the concept of GROUPS carries different dimensions and aspects.

Illusion? ILLUSION? ILLUSION?!!

Which of the following "statements" appear as an "illusion" to you?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...th-risk-lgbt-heterosexual-issue-a7933806.html

Bisexual people experience more discrimination that other members in LGBT communities don’t, a new study has revealed.

Whilst previous studies have shown that bisexual people are more at risk of experiencing anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts, this new study published in Prevention Science, found that these risks are exacerbated because bisexual people feel as if they don’t belong in any one community.

“Bisexual people face double discrimination in multiple settings — bisexual people are often invisible, rejected, invalidated, [and] stigmatised in the heterosexual community as well as the traditional LGBT communities,” explained lead study author Ethan Mereish.

“Given that isolation and discrimination, bi people might be experiencing increase factors that might make them more lonely or isolated,” the professor told NBC News. In worst-case scenarios, this overriding sense of discrimination and ostracism can lead to poor mental health and suicidal thoughts.

A study by American University, www.american.edu, 2017.


Or

The closets are fuIl and it's the stigma.

The survey finds that bisexuals differ from gay men and lesbians on a range of attitudes and experiences related to their sexual orientation. For example, while 77% of gay men and 71% of lesbians say most or all of the important people in their lives know of their sexual orientation, just 28% of bisexuals say the same. Bisexual women are more likely to say this than bisexual men (33% vs. 12%).

Pew Research Center survey, 2013.

 

[minute bull]

From 1 - 10, how serious am I supposed to take you right now?

 

[Noveltymortar]

Illusion? ILLUSION? ILLUSION?!!

Which of the following "statements" appear as an "illusion" to you?


A study by American University, www.american.edu, 2017.


Or



Pew Research Center survey, 2013.

Feeling as if you are being discriminated against is obviously not the same as actually being discriminated against. There are certain groups that regards every failure or rejection in their lives as an act of discrimination. That is ridiculous of course.

 

[Ogata]

Be detached from desire your whole life long.

Miyamoto Musashi

Respect!

 

[fungi]

Feeling as if you are being discriminated against is obviously not the same as actually being discriminated against. There are certain groups that regards every failure or rejection in their lives as an act of discrimination. That is ridiculous of course.

Whether you're willing or not to acknowledge that people of any social status, confession, age, gender, race, profession, income level, or whatever, ARE more likely to discriminate against bi's than gays&lesbians, and ARE more likely to stigmatize bi-men than bi-women, such discrepancy exist.

It's not that different than the dissing biracial people face. For example, half-black/half-white person from the very birth is very likely to be ostracized by both blacks AND whites. Whites diss them for being "black", blacks diss them for NOT being black ENOUGH.

Not by all. BUTT, bi-many.

Same shite goes for any type of mixture. A white-white kid, German parent#1/French parent#2, or vice-versa, is conditioned to "despise the frogs" by his kraut-fam side, and conditioned to "despise the krauts" by his frog-fams. That is the nature of our nature: tribalism, xenophobia, etc.

Bi's belong neither to heteros nor to homos (of both sexes). Maybe, they should form their own "tribe", as both above studies suggested.

Being rejected by both sides of your fam is twice as traumatic. That is why so many bi-racial folk try to form their own bi- or half-something communities.

It's been observed, in the US Eurasians of differing origin, for ex. half-Chinese, half-Koreans, half-Japanese, half-Vietnamese, etc. often find it easier to bond among each other* than within their own respective communities. Because they can relate, they usually share similar identity issues growing up, etc.

* - even under antagonistic historical circumstances, for ex. half-Japanese&half-Koreans may sometimes bond easier than half-Japanese&fully-Japanese, or half-Koreans&fully-Koreans.

This happens. Not always, butt, too often for it to be considered a statistical outlier.

 

[Noveltymortar]

Whether you're willing or not to acknowledge that people of any social status, confession, age, gender, race, profession, income level, or whatever, ARE more likely to discriminate against bi's than gays&lesbians, and ARE more likely to stigmatize bi-men than bi-women, such discrepancy exist.

It's not that different than the dissing biracial people face. For example, half-black/half-white person from the very birth is very likely to be ostracized by both blacks AND whites. Whites diss them for being "black", blacks diss them for NOT being black ENOUGH.

Not by all. BUTT, bi-many.

Same shite goes for any type of mixture. A white-white kid, German parent#1/French parent#2, or vice-versa, is conditioned to "despise the frogs" by his kraut-fam side, and conditioned to "despise the krauts" by his frog-fams. That is the nature of our nature: tribalism, xenophobia, etc.

Bi's belong neither to heteros nor to homos (of both sexes). Maybe, they should form their own "tribe", as both above studies suggested.

Being rejected by both sides of your fam is twice as traumatic. That is why so many bi-racial folk try to form their own bi- or half-something communities.

It's been observed, in the US Eurasians of differing origin, for ex. half-Chinese, half-Koreans, half-Japanese, half-Vietnamese, etc. often find it easier to bond with each other* than within their own respective communities. Because they can relate, they usually share similar identity issues growing up, etc.

* - even under antagonistic historical circumstances, for ex. half-Japanese&half-Koreans may sometimes bond easier than half-Japanese&fully-Japanese, or half-Koreans&fully-Koreans.

This happens. Not always, butt, too often for it to be considered a statistical outlier.

You absolutely avoided directly answering my assertion that feeling discriminated against is not the same as being discriminated against.