Fedors Strikeforce losing streak

[CrimsonFan]

How does a fighter go from undefeated from a decade, to losing 3 fights in a row in an organization that is commonly referred to as a B league?


Lets try to actually have an honest discussion here. (not likely)

This topic frustrates me when i read the bickering. I honestly dont see too many people that share my opinion on Fedor and his decline.



Imo, at 32 Fedor still was in his athletic prime. I do not blame his age. I think now days, how he cant take punches from Maldanado.. Yea thats a shot version of Fedor.. But in SF he still had it.


To me, what is blatantly obvious and nobody talks about... Is Fedors work ethic. He is just visibly out of shape and looks ridiculous.

I dont think any ufc HW since has looked as small, frail, and fat as Fedor did. And no, he didnt always look that way. I actually believe he wasent putting the work in for quite a while... And knocking out the #1 and #2 in Sylvia and Arlovski in less than 3 minutes combined probably made him even more cocky.

That mofo bought into his own hype, showed up out of shape and undersized against one of the best BJJ guys in mma histort and fearlessly leaped into his guard.

We dont really get an accurate representation with the language barrier.. But Fedor was cocky and over confident. He paid for it in braincells in the following fight with Silva



After those fights you notice he shows up in notably better shape. Too little too late. Cant take back the damage 280lb roided bigfoot can do laying on your tired ass dropping bombs for 3 mins straight.

Now hes shot and has needed to call it quits. As a huge fan i dont think his age or prime was the reason of his decline

 

[Levels]

Fedor is one of the most overrated fighters in history. He beat all those bums in Japan but he has a losing record in North America (3-4).

Fedor lost 3 fights in a row and degenerate fans still think he should be considered as the GOAT SMH, embarrassing

 

[Psychojoe86]

What I remember was Fedor changed his fighting style to primarily standing toe to toe with his opponents, regardless of who it was. His game plans from the past became distant as Fedor just wanted to knockout all of his opponents.

Eventually imo his natural abilities slowed down after fighting for many years and he started suffering losses on account of his balls to the wall fighting style as well as the size disadvantage against Bigfoot

 

[Flokk]

Ten years not enough for you, "huge fan"?

 

[Bubblun]

Because the level got higher.
I remember after the Bigfoot fight there was a lot of talks about a 230 pounds division.

 

[TinkerMan]

Sherdog loves Fedor but he got cleaned out by meathead ffs , dude sucks now

 

[Dionysian]

If you don't think SF Fedor declined technically relative to Pride Fedor I don't know what to tell you. But yeah we've gone over this a million times, best not to invite morons that say Fabio Fedor was "best Fedor ever."

Probably the 3rd heaviest troll magnet topic, behind "do you think Jones is innocent?" and "is Conor making money good for the sport?" Best not to bother.

 

[Based Akali]

The answer is simple, Fedor never evolved as a fighter and the fight game caught up to him, it was never a prime thing. There's a reason why other fighters from the Pride era continued to have success outside of Pride and it's because they continued to evolve and work on their game whereas Fedor didn't bother.

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

Fedor is one of the most overrated fighters in history. He beat all those bums in Japan but he has a losing record in North America (3-4).

Fedor lost 3 fights in a row and degenerate fans still think he should be considered as the GOAT SMH, embarrassing

 

[CrimsonFan]

The answer is simple, Fedor never evolved as a fighter and the fight game caught up to him, it was never a prime thing. There's a reason why other fighters from the Pride era continued to have success outside of Pride and it's because they continued to evolve and work on their game whereas Fedor didn't bother.

I dont believe for a second that Fedor was training anywhere near as hard as he did for his profile pride fights.

His not a case of evolution. He wasent trying. If he was, he wouldnt have looked like dough. The Fedor that showed up for those fights would have lost to half the guys he beat

 

[2sk]

it seems like most of the sherdoggers werent even born during fedors run

 

[100action]

I would say having a physique not tailored for high performance (high bf% and natty) is partly the reason of his undoing.

Then again take that away and you detract from his achievements.

This is a man that didn't seek the sanctity of lower weight classes like a coward despite being clearly capable. Instead he sacked up and dominated the most important division for a decade.

Truly the GOAT and we are all unworthy to have been witness.

 

[FedorFanBoy]

 

[RaskeDanzig]

Well first off you're a dumbass if you think strikeforce was the b league. Werdum became champ in UFC and Hendo and Bigfoot became # 1 contenders. Lets stop pretending Fedor lost to non elite fighters.

 

[Based Akali]

I dont believe for a second that Fedor was training anywhere near as hard as he did for his profile pride fights.

His not a case of evolution. He wasent trying. If he was, he wouldnt have looked like dough. The Fedor that showed up for those fights would have lost to half the guys he beat

Not training hard IS failing to evolve as a fighter though, training methods in all sports get better all the time. Those who don't evolve fall behind, which is exactly what happened to Fedor. It took a long time for it to happen which shows just how far ahead of his time he was, but his losses were never a sudden falling out of his prime issue. He simply never evolved and Werdum, Bigfoot, and Henderson did.

I like Fedor as much as the next guy, but the built in excuses so many people have for him is astounding and honestly offputs a lot of people to his legacy. He was on top for years and then fell behind because he didn't evolve, there's nothing wrong with that. Fedor doesn't need people claiming that he fell out of his prime over night, that he stopped caring and trying etc. It took ten years for the game to catch up to him, that's an achievement enough, stop devaluing it by adding excuses for why the game caught up.

 

[Readybodisready]

Well first off you're a dumbass if you think strikeforce was the b league. Werdum became champ in UFC and Hendo and Bigfoot became # 1 contenders. Lets stop pretending Fedor lost to non elite fighters.

He lost in his prime to 3 elite fighters, yes. Problem is, one of them was against a 41yo man two weight classes below him who dominated him in both aspects of MMA and brutally finished him inside of 1. That is the one that destroys his legacy the most. Things wouldn't be quite as sad if Werdum and Silva were the only ones to beat him.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

Fedor is one of the most overrated fighters in history. He beat all those bums in Japan but he has a losing record in North America (3-4).

Fedor lost 3 fights in a row and degenerate fans still think he should be considered as the GOAT SMH, embarrassing

4-4

 

[100action]

He lost in his prime to 3 elite fighters, yes. Problem is, one of them was against a 41yo man two weight classes below him who dominated him in both aspects of MMA and brutally finished him inside of 1. That is the one that destroys his legacy the most. Things wouldn't be quite as sad if Werdum and Silva were the only ones to beat him.

Age isnt a valid factor when you are on TRT.

Funny how both Bigfoot and Hendo were on TRT. Werdum is also looking extremely soft these days so things start looking suss already.

 

[Readybodisready]

Fedor is the GOAT though, I'll admit that.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Well first off you're a dumbass if you think strikeforce was the b league. Werdum became champ in UFC and Hendo and Bigfoot became # 1 contenders. Lets stop pretending Fedor lost to non elite fighters.

The ufc has done a great job in controlling the market. Theyre able to build and destroy fighters publicity and standing with fans.

Back then it was even worse

Fedor was heavily bashed for fighting Werdum. Every mma fan considered it a squash match and he was as hated as Conor is here now.

He was a 10 to 1 favorite. There has never been a ufc hw title or contender fight with those odds. A Lesnar, Couture, or Carwin fight would have been 5 to 1 MAX

Ufc controlled mma back then. The bookies, fans, everything. And it took another 5 years for the public to finally start realizing this