Fedor Was Only 33yrs old When He lost to Werdum

In October 2003, Goodridge was not in the rankings due to Fedor smoking him. That doesn't mean he wasn't before they fought. Something you have yet to prove.

And I think the funniest thing about your most recent "victory lap" is that you went on and on about how "you can't be top 10 without beating someone in the top 10" and the "who did he beat to be top 10", and then you come out and post your "factual" rankings with Cabbage and Wiuff at #9 and #10...

Gary was NEVER ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
 
Gary was NEVER ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
Prove it... October 2003 rankings do not prove what you're saying

And just so we're clear, it's IMPOSSIBLE for Goodridge to be in the top 10 prior to the Fedor fight, but Cabbage and Wiuff were 100% top 10 fighters in October 2003?
 
Well, you actually can compare it. That's kind of the point. Fedor fought in PRIDE 14(?) times after winning the title. He defended it 3 times? Once against 5-2 Hunt coming off a loss. Seems inexcusable. Yes, I know the culture was different. I know the matchmaking was different. That's literally what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter why it happened, it happened. I'm perfectly ok with it, I just don't glorify it or pretend it was more significant than it was. I still have Fedor as HW GOAT. Mirko is my favorite HW. He has an outrageously padded record too. It's a harder knock against Fedor because he was the #1 HW in the world and the reigning champ.

That said.... Gary Goodridge wasn't fucking top 10. = )

He fought 11 times in Pride after winning the title and a total of 14 times in Pride. What this proves is that while in Pride Fedor fought pretty much all top competition in major organizations. It's when he was outside of Pride that the comp was subpar. But in Pride, of those 14 fights he had 11 were vs top 10 opponents. When he went to Affliction it was all top 5 HWs in Sylvia, Arlovski and suppose to be Barnett but got axed. So when Fedor is in a top promotion it's majority or only top competition. Same with SF.

Take his first 6 fights in Rings after the loss to TK, he was an up and coming fighter so you can't expect him to be really fight top comp in his first 10 fights. Those are not relevant and you can't knock his streak for those fights. It's like take Khabib, 29 fight win streak, 16 are supbar fighters that no one has heard off, the first 5 in the UFC are average guys, for Khabib of his 29 wins, only 7 are higher comp. Point is you're never going to get huge winning streak that's not padded in some way with lesser comp. Any long streak will have that. Renan Barao, Miguel Torres, Rich Franklin, Anderson Silva etc. So it's not so much they're records are padded, it's just a consistent variable that is part of any long winning streak. The best one I can think of is Jon Jones, take away the Hammil BS DQ and the NC to Cormier, 26 fight win streak. But Jon even has a dozen names on there that are subpar. If were gonna consider Fedors fights in Rings you gotta consider Jon's earlier fights as well.

So the point is that everyone is going to have names that pad their record. And that's just a part of the sport. No one is ever going to have a 20+ win streak with all big names. It's part of everyones win streak and yes, some will have more than others. So it is excusable if it happens cause it happens to everyone.

And yes....Gary was top 10 :) I am pretty certain he was #9 on some rankings.
 
Prove it... October 2003 rankings do not prove what you're saying

And just so we're clear, it's IMPOSSIBLE for Goodridge to be in the top 10 prior to the Fedor fight, but Cabbage and Wiuff were 100% top 10 fighters in October 2003?

Gary was NEVER ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
 
He fought 11 times in Pride after winning the title and a total of 14 times in Pride. What this proves is that while in Pride Fedor fought pretty much all top competition in major organizations. It's when he was outside of Pride that the comp was subpar. But in Pride, of those 14 fights he had 11 were vs top 10 opponents. When he went to Affliction it was all top 5 HWs in Sylvia, Arlovski and suppose to be Barnett but got axed. So when Fedor is in a top promotion it's majority or only top competition. Same with SF.

Take his first 6 fights in Rings after the loss to TK, he was an up and coming fighter so you can't expect him to be really fight top comp in his first 10 fights. Those are not relevant and you can't knock his streak for those fights. It's like take Khabib, 29 fight win streak, 16 are supbar fighters that no one has heard off, the first 5 in the UFC are average guys, for Khabib of his 29 wins, only 7 are higher comp. Point is you're never going to get huge winning streak that's not padded in some way with lesser comp. Any long streak will have that. Renan Barao, Miguel Torres, Rich Franklin, Anderson Silva etc. So it's not so much they're records are padded, it's just a consistent variable that is part of any long winning streak. The best one I can think of is Jon Jones, take away the Hammil BS DQ and the NC to Cormier, 26 fight win streak. But Jon even has a dozen names on there that are subpar. If were gonna consider Fedors fights in Rings you gotta consider Jon's earlier fights as well.

So the point is that everyone is going to have names that pad their record. And that's just a part of the sport. No one is ever going to have a 20+ win streak with all big names. It's part of everyones win streak and yes, some will have more than others. So it is excusable if it happens cause it happens to everyone.

And yes....Gary was top 10 :) I am pretty certain he was #9 on some rankings.

It was actually 12 fights in PRIDE after he won the title, with 4-5 of them being ranked. I previously counted Nagata and Valavicious by mistake when I said 14. Regardless, let's say it was 5 out 12 that were ranked. That's 41.67% - less than half. Pretty shitty for the #1 HW champion in the world in the supposed top organization. Yes, it got better when he started to fight in Affliction and Strikeforce. The first time in his career that he fought 4 top 10's in a row, he lost. That's the entire point of talking about his level of competition. That streak was much easier to achieve because of the low level people he fought. I agree 100% he shouldn't be knocked for his earlier fights as an up and comer. It just gets lumped in because his streak was so massive.

Gary Goodridge was never ranked top 10, bro. Look: History of odds and rankings 2001-2004 - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums (archive.fo)
 
Gary was NEVER ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
Prove it... You're the one going on and on about it with rankings years before or directly after.

So Cabbage and Wiuff were 100% top 10 fighters in October 2003?
 
Prove it... You're the one going on and on about it with rankings years before or directly after.

So Cabbage and Wiuff were 100% top 10 fighters in October 2003?

History of odds and rankings 2001-2004

Gary was ***NEVER**** ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
 
You and mama were wrong to say that Gary Goodridge was ranked top 10. Man up and say it, girls. Put your big boy pants on.
Quote me where I said/denied it.

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You asked poor Gono about several of his opponents, & the answer was always the same:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...t-16-siamese-brothers-the-2-hw-goats.3851935/

If you dont know what you´re talkin´about, rankings are indeed made for you... since you´ve never watched those fights [Valentijn in Rings, the Ebenezer vs Goodridge draw etc...] or dont know much about the context.

Now, if you wanna have a really comprehensive approach, you have to forget about that simplistic angle, & consider several richer perspectives:
  1. Quality W/L
  2. [Potentiallty] Controversial W/L
  3. Problematic W/L

None of those rankings are essentially relevant, & that´s the reason why I asked you about whom you consider legit at the time, between Quadros, Lapenda & Meltzer... but to no avail...

Poor McDego... not a good showin´ITT...

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Quote me where I said/denied it.

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You asked poor Gono about several of his opponents, & the answer was always the same:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...t-16-siamese-brothers-the-2-hw-goats.3851935/

If you dont know what you´re talkin´about, rankings are indeed made for you... since you´ve never watched those fights [Valentijn in Rings, the Ebenezer vs Goodridge draw etc...] or dont know much about the context.

Now, if you wanna have a really comprehensive approach, you have to forget about that simplistic angle, & consider several richer perspectives:
  1. Quality W/L
  2. [Potentiallty] Controversial W/L
  3. Problematic W/L

None of those rankings are essentially relevant, & that´s the reason why I asked you about whom you consider legit at the time, between Quadros, Lapenda & Meltzer... but to no avail...

Poor McDego... not a good showin´ITT...

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Please assess Goodridge's win over 0-0 MMA legend Lloyd van Dams in August of 2002, and his resume between August 2002 through August 2003.

1.Quality
2.Controversial
3.Problematic
4.Divisional standing
 
Please assess Goodridge's win over 0-0 MMA legend Lloyd van Dams in August of 2002, and his resume between August 2002 through August 2003.

1.Quality
2.Controversial
3.Problematic
4.Divisional standing
Helax, mate.... Close your eyes, have a deep breath...
Now open your eyes & Read the last 3 lines of my previous post & everythin´will be all right...
 
History of odds and rankings 2001-2004

Gary was ***NEVER**** ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
That's not how it works... October 2002 rankings do not stay the same until August 2003.

But seriously, Cabbage and Wiuff were 100% top 10 in October 2003?
 
@Mamou

History of odds and rankings 2001-2004

Gary was ***NEVER**** ranked top 10. THAT MEANS HE WASN'T BEFORE HE FOUGHT FEDOR.

You are completely and 100% pathetic. You were wrong. Say it. I've proven it about 50 times over 3 days. Say it, nerd.
Copying and pasting your same opinion over and over does not make anything factual, I hope you understand that.

Igor and Schilt had similar or worse recent records than Goodridge while beating no ranked fighters but they're absolutely ranked because they're on your list... lol rankings are subjective, not facts. And the fact that you can't understand that or even prove what you're trying to say is hilarious.
 
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