Fedor strengths and weaknesses and his skillset in the UFC today (Long Thread)

[Fioretti]

Dan Henderson got a title shot against Bisping, I certainly wouldn’t call him relevant at that time.
And JDS “faced top competition in the HW division” for years without alternating wins and losses every other fight. You know this. You bring it up all the time. A loss doesn’t equate to being out of prime, but declining out of prime certainly can be the cause of losses.

I’ve told you a gazillion times that your “Fedor lost because he fought good competition in a row” argument makes no sense. This 3-3 run you are referencing took place over a nearly 3 year period. In roughly the same period between 2002-2005, Fedor fought Schilt, Herring, Nog 3x, Coleman, Randleman, and Cro Cop, plus decent dudes like Fujita, Ogawa, Goodridge, and TK, plus not-so-good guys like Valavicius and Yuji Nagata— and he won all those fights (except for the accidental headbutt NC in the 2nd Nog fight). He was far more active, and fought more good opponents in the same period of time but somehow he lost in Strikeforce (which included two more PRIDE guys in Werdum and Hendo) because they were in a row??

That makes no sense. Isn’t it more likely that Fedor lost because he was older, accumulating injuries (he was injured after both the Sylvia fight and Rogers fight), and declining? Of course it is. You know it is.
I know you’re an Anderson Silva guy and Fedor’s Eternal GOATness makes you feel feelings you’re uncomfortable with, but you gotta come up with something better than that.

The dude asked for a “great fighter.” Sylvia is a 2-time UFC champ who set a record at the time for UFC HW title defenses. I certainly think he qualifies.
Although, the criteria that dude set up is goofy anyway—he characterized Hendo as someone “who should not be fighting anymore due to advanced age.” But Hendo was on TRT at the time and wasn’t fighting like someone at an advanced age at all. No one was calling on him to retire then. He had his legendary war with Shogun at UFC 139 in the very next fight. After that he lost a very close split to Lyoto, and then stopped TRT. And then he looked old.

I could see saying that Sylvia would struggle with the top 5 today, but the whole top 10? I think he handles Tai, Lewis, and Tybura, probably Volkov too just because of he style matchup. Maybe Rozenstruik too. A year ago when Daukaus and Abdurakhimov were in the top 10, he handles them too of course.

Bro, if you try to tell me again that consistently fighting top fighters doesn't increase your chances of losing, you should probably just log out for good. Stop it. Travis Fulton beat Fedro's HW win streak 3x times because he wasn't fighting top comp. Fedro fought top guys less than 30% of the time during his streak. He wasn't old, washed, shopworn, and out of his prime at age 33. He still fights in his mid 40s, and can still knock out subpar competition with sick combos. Stop the fanboi shit. You're usually better than than, cept when it comes to your mancrush. Fuckin weird.

Silva isn't my favorite fighter, he's just the GOAT until Jones can snatch it from him.

 

[Fioretti]

Then what did he enter? Those were his best years and won the title. "Physical prime" doesn't mean anything. Werdum striking and iq improved



Conor was undefeated right up until 28. Then he started losing fights. Got finished by a guy twice he easily.beat in his younger years

Jones robbed Reyes, barely beat Santos and looked bad against Anthony Smith. He too forgot how to wrestle.

FFS glover made easy work of anthony Smith and Santos

27-35 is a man's physical prime. Losing fights isn't automatically someone "out of prime". Individual peak performance is not the same thing as physical prime. Prime is an age thing. Period. What are you even trying to say or prove at this point?

 

[Can’t Handle My Riddum]

Why? Because 46 year old Fedor might lose? Oh no. How will I ever get over it?

Smh.

I bet you will cry, get your mom to call your school to say you’re sick and take a few weeks to recover.

 

[The Last King]

I bet you will cry, get your mom to call your school to say you’re sick and take a few weeks to recover.

Lol you're so desperate and thirsty- i live in your head rent free. I dont care if Fedor loses, he's 46. But passive aggressive weirdo serial killers like you will legit cry if he wins.

"Muh - His fans!"

 

[Midget Boxer]

Individual peak performance is not the same thing as physical prime.

Then what good is physical prime then?

 

[TheComputerGuy]

Randy joined the Army at 19. You think there was no wear and tear in the Army? After that he wrestled for about 8 years, then got into MMA. TRT helped him do well into his 40s, not his lack of wear and tear. Are you aware of the benefits of TRT?

I'm pretty sure TRT was after Randy retired.

No, the Army is not going to have the wear and tear on your body like fighting does. Wrestling won't either. Getting hit does much more damage.

I did MMA training for 3 years that alone gave me permanent damage to my hip.

 

[Fioretti]

Then what good is physical prime then?

If you can't comprehend the benefits, then you probably shouldn't try to discuss it, friend.

I'm pretty sure TRT was after Randy retired.

No, the Army is not going to have the wear and tear on your body like fighting does. Wrestling won't either. Getting hit does much more damage.

I did MMA training for 3 years that alone gave me permanent damage to my hip.

You don't think people have debilitating injuries from the Army or wrestling?

 

[Midget Boxer]

you can't comprehend the benefits, then you probably shouldn't try to discuss it, friend.

Do all fighters decline by 35? Or can they decline sooner or later?

 

[Fioretti]

Do all fighters decline by 35? Or can they decline sooner or later?

Physically? After 35. That's when muscles and bone will start to deteriorate in men who don't regularly exercise. Do fighters exercise regularly?

The average age of current UFC champions is 33.55. The youngest is 31. Fedro is still fighting and KO'ing lower tier fighters in his mid 40s. He's been fighting longer after his supposed decline than he fought before his supposed decline. Weird.

 

[Midget Boxer]

Physically? After 35. That's when muscles and bone will start to deteriorate in men who don't regularly exercise. Do fighters exercise regularly?

The average age of current UFC champions is 33.55. The youngest is 31. Fedro is still fighting and KO'ing lower tier fighters in his mid 40s. He's been fighting longer after his supposed decline than he fought before his supposed decline. Weird.

Yep and your fighting skills can diminsh anytime

Conor, Jones, Shogun all got worse

 

[Taric]

It's nearly 2023. Fedor Emelianenko is 46 years of age and hasn't been a ranked HW in literally 12 years.

Why is this a thread?

 

[Fioretti]

Yep and your fighting skills can diminsh anytime

Conor, Jones, Shogun all got worse

This is an untrue statement, but let's pretend it's true, just for shits n giggles. 3 out of how many MMA fighters throughout history?

 

[TITS]

Why? Because 46 year old Fedor might lose? Oh no. How will I ever get over it?

Smh.

Because you're going to get roasted so badly on here that you'll probably have the meltdown of all meltdowns, judging by your replies on here already, it doesn't look too hopeful.

 

[The Last King]

Because you're going to get roasted so badly on here that you'll probably have the meltdown of all meltdowns, judging by your replies on here already, it doesn't look too hopeful.

Roasted by who? Over weight Basement dwellers? Imagine roasting someone because a 46 year old fighter they like loses. Your name is congruent with your estrogen levels.

 

[TITS]

Roasted by who? Over weight Basement dwellers? Imagine roasting someone because a 46 year old fighter they like loses. Your name is congruent with your estrogen levels.

You know how it is here, people don't forget, and the way you're reacting to these "overweight basement dwellers" it's only going to get worse if Fedor gets fed to the canvas again.

 

[The Last King]

You know how it is here, people don't forget, and the way you're reacting to these "overweight basement dwellers" it's only going to get worse if Fedor gets fed to the canvas again.

I don't care either way. Fedor is 46 bruh. It's hard to win with the basement types of sherdog because they're mentally ill. If Fedor wins somehow they will diminish it by saying Bader sucks. If Fedor loses they will say he always sucked and celebrate a legend losing/ getting KOd even though hes nearly 50 years old. This kind of toxic behavior is just a reflection of guys who have 20k posts on an internet forum with the name "TITS" Anyone who reads these forums can recognize this.

 

[Midget Boxer]

I would like to see Tai Tuivasa, Lewis, Pavlovich or Gane try to stop a mark coleman double leg l
LOL

 

[TITS]

I don't care either way. Fedor is 46 bruh. It's hard to win with the basement types of sherdog because they're mentally ill. If Fedor wins somehow they will diminish it by saying Bader sucks. If Fedor loses they will say he always sucked and celebrate a legend losing/ getting KOd even though hes nearly 50 years old. This kind of toxic behavior is just a reflection of guys who have 20k posts on an internet forum with the name "TITS" Anyone who reads these forums can recognize this.

No one is going to think Fedor sucks just because he lost to Bader at age 46, and no one is going to think Bader sucks if he loses, but Bader is almost 40 so people will bring his age into the discussion if Fedor somehow manages to beat him. I don't think the majority of people would use that as an insult to Fedor, you're just paranoid.

I see you're still fixated on my user name, and 20k posts over (almost) 10 years really isn't that much on average posts-per-day compared you your 900 posts in a little over 2 months on this one account. How many posts did you make on your other account(s)? Combined, probably more than mine.

 

[HHJ]

Fedor is the one true GOAT of MMA. The most well rounded and complete fighter in history.

Also the best looking and most desirable.

 

[HHJ]

I don't care either way. Fedor is 46 bruh. It's hard to win with the basement types of sherdog because they're mentally ill. If Fedor wins somehow they will diminish it by saying Bader sucks. If Fedor loses they will say he always sucked and celebrate a legend losing/ getting KOd even though hes nearly 50 years old. This kind of toxic behavior is just a reflection of guys who have 20k posts on an internet forum with the name "TITS" Anyone who reads these forums can recognize this.

Why do you worry about that? Its so easy to beat them. You can pick up 5 of them with one hand and shove them into their forever home locker.