Fedor looking huge (recent pic)

Toxxus said:
Yeah, there's no consolidation possible among disparate religions as many of them take the stance that you must believe their way or you fall from grace/go to hell/etc.

For bonus points - the MRI was created by a fundamentalist. Believes literally that the universe was created in 6 days and God took a breather on the 7th. The most significant medical advance in decades invented by someone who takes most of the Bible literally.

I think there's something there where people can go through some of the horrors of life (dead loved ones, lingering disease, etc.) and believe it all works out in the end. Seems to work wonders for pro athletes.
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I don't need to get sick to appreciate health. I don't need to suffer to appreciate good times.

I can go trough hard work and pain that comes with it to achieve something good. But meaningless suffering sucks.

My friend just died because of cancer. He was a great f*cking guy. What good did his cancer bring? F*ck that.
 
Gonzaginator said:
It's not a question of intelligence. I'm not religious or anything and I think every religion is BS, made up by some crackhead hundreds of years ago. But a lot of religious people are pretty smart. If they want to believe in whatever they believe in, that's their choice. You can't say for sure they are wrong, they can't say for sure they're right. I think that there is something that created life, but not these bullshit stories you hear from all those different religions. All that shit is made up. Back then there were no laws really so they had to go by something to keep people from becoming criminals. But I still think there's something out there somewhere that we don't know (yet). I mean we have machines here that can think a million times faster, that are a million time more productive. We are complete morons. What makes us think that there isn't a gazillion times more intelligent life out there somewhere? Do you think they need nasal spray and all that shit? Do you think they get sick? Do you think they have to take shits? That they get hungry? We can't even imagine how far advanced that life somewhere out there in space. Maybe they're so advanced we can't even see them, maybe that life is so big it looks at us like bacteria. I have no clue. What the fuck am I talking about? Anyway, drifting off.

I think religion can be a great thing because religious people try to become better human beings each day, they try to improve all the time, they think about themselves all the time. They don't waste their time partying, not being productive, wasting their time with playing video games or whatever. I just don't think there's any correlation between Fedor losing and him having found God. That's just an easy way for people, maybe his big fans, to explain his "downfall". He's not superhuman, he's no exception. Everybody slows down at some point. It's natural. Don't blame God for Fedors losses, that's an easy copout.
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I like how you drifted. It just shows that you understand that we don't know anything yet, compared to what we want to know. Religions on the other hand, just require people to believe that what they are saying is the ultimate truth. Which is lazy and manipulative.

I find it sad that humans need the fear od hell and the promise of heaven to do good. I don't respect religious people who do good, nearly as much as atheists who do good.

Religious people who do good out of hypocracy should know that their God is allegedly allknowing and they can't hide their bullsh*t from it:)

I'm an agnostic- admitting that I don't know sh*t about God. I definitely don't believe in religions, but I keep an open mind. But there is no way I'm going to blindly believe something. F*ck that.

As for Fedor. He very obviously switched priorities when he became religious. Religion made him worse in MMA. He wasn't very bothered by his losses. He fasted way too much and got weaker. He spent way too much time doing religious stuff instead of training. He went from training with top fighters to training with his priest FFS.
 
kikikhan said:
I like how you drifted. It just shows that you understand that we don't know anything yet, compared to what we want to know. Religions on the other hand, just require people to believe that what they are saying is the ultimate truth. Which is lazy and manipulative.

I find it sad that humans need the fear od hell and the promise of heaven to do good. I don't respect religious people who do good, nearly as much as atheists who do good.

Religious people who do good out of hypocracy should know that their God is allegedly allknowing and they can't hide their bullsh*t from it:)

I'm an agnostic- admitting that I don't know sh*t about God. I definitely don't believe in religions, but I keep an open mind. But there is no way I'm going to blindly believe something. F*ck that.

As for Fedor. He very obviously switched priorities when he became religious. Religion made him worse in MMA. He wasn't very bothered by his losses. He fasted way too much and got weaker. He spent way too much time doing religious stuff instead of training. He went from training with top fighters to training with his priest FFS.
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Fair enough, I don't know too much about Fedor and what he does in his private life and how this religious migh have affected him. Maybe if he returns now we'll see where he really is. I still don't see him do too much at the heavies, he should just drop some weight and move down to LHW.
 
Gonzaginator said:
Religion has never kept any athlete from reaching his potential. In fact the religious fighters are usually the ones that train the hardest, that are mentally the strongest and live the healthier lifestyle. There are so many religious fighters in the UFC, there have been so many, it never affected them. What about Ben Henderson? Are you going to blame some of his losses on Jesus? What about Belfort? List goes on and on. Fedor is getting old, that's just the way it is. His religion has nothing to do with him losing a couple fights. This is what happens to every older fighter, they lose some of their athletic skills (speed, strength etc.), they lose some of their passion, they aren't as aggressive, they don't necessarily have the killer instinct at age 35-40 compared to 25 year olds.

I think Fedor can bounce back but he's just in a weird situation in terms of his weight and everything. Sort of like Crocop. Too small for the Heavies in my opinion. At this stage if he stays at HW he needs decent matchups but most top UFC HW's aren't great matchups for him. His sambo won't help him that much against 250 pound wrestlers/grapplers. And I don't see him pushing around punchers like Mark Hunt either. I hope he drops some weight and moves down to LHW. He could absolutely dominate there for a couple years.
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What the fuck? You're kidding, right?
 
Gonzaginator said:
Fair enough, I don't know too much about Fedor and what he does in his private life and how this religious migh have affected him. Maybe if he returns now we'll see where he really is. I still don't see him do too much at the heavies, he should just drop some weight and move down to LHW.
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I have no interrestseeing the GOAT at LHW. I want him at HW or not at all.

LHW is for those who can't hang with HWs. If he can't hang with HWs then he should stay retired.
 
if fedor can perform at 85% of his prime form he could beat everyone in current mma.
 
kikikhan said:
I have no interrestseeing the GOAT at LHW. I want him at HW or not at all.

LHW is for those who can't hang with HWs. If he can't hang with HWs then he should stay retired.
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he's not doing LHW. it would be like anderson silva going for Robbie's belt.

if fedor returns, it will be at HW.
 
He's not moving down. I'm not sure why, it makes no sense to stay at HW. His style, his size combined with his age, it's silly to stay at HW. Randy Couture did the right thing when he moved down as he got older. At some point if you're that undersized and you are a wrestler or a sambo guy you have to move down. You stand no chance against the top heavies.
 
Jesus he looks huge! I really think he has the ufc on his radar. Imo he believes he can avenge his previous losses and become champ even at his age, probably motivated by Werdum's beat down of Cain
 
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dmwalking said:
At first I was like, damn son, he looks HUGE! Then I'm like, damn son, 50+ pages?! Must be some hilarious shoops!

Then I get to the last page.....religious debate. WTF sherdog.
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Lmfao, Sherdog in a nutshell.
 
Dave Meltzer said UFC has suggested the idea of Cain vs. Fedor.

There's not much to it yet but at least that shows the UFC is interested and may have already approached him.

Tough first fight for Fedor if he signs but can you imagine Cain vs. Fedor for a title shot against Werdum at UFC 200?
 
Senzo Tanaka said:
Dave Meltzer said UFC has suggested the idea of Cain vs. Fedor.

There's not much to it yet but at least that shows the UFC is interested and may have already approached him.

Tough first fight for Fedor if he signs but can you imagine Cain vs. Fedor for a title shot against Werdum at UFC 200?
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I wouldn't want him to fight a Cain coming off a loss. That won't be fun haha.
 
Senzo Tanaka said:
Dave Meltzer said UFC has suggested the idea of Cain vs. Fedor.

There's not much to it yet but at least that shows the UFC is interested and may have already approached him.

Tough first fight for Fedor if he signs but can you imagine Cain vs. Fedor for a title shot against Werdum at UFC 200?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Fedor signs with Bellator and Dana White brings up this rumor and suggests Fedor didn't want to fight Cain.
 
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