Fedor have never been wrestlef-d before

so Chael is LHW or MW?

He's fought in 3 weight classes, unlike fat HWs like Fedor and Roy Nelson who may have MW frames but never had the discipline to cut weight.
 
Oh, triggered little baby Mixfight....whose entire existence is based on the Fedor myth. I hope you didn't cry before you posted this. The amount of projection in your posts could fill psychology journals.

Whatever you say , American basement dwelling soy boy. Lets not talk about existence because you're a fat, lazy , american basement dweller who has never been outside of america. Some existence that is.
 
Whatever you say , American basement dwelling soy boy. Lets not talk about existence because you're a fat, lazy , american basement dweller who has never been outside of america. Some existence that is.

Uh, I've been to countries in Central America, Asia, the Middle East and Europe, including your mother Russia. Now get off mom's iPad and stop playing with yourself!
 
Uh, I've been to countries in Central America, Asia, the Middle East and Europe, including your mother Russia. Now get off mom's iPad and stop playing with yourself!

Lol you were probably one of those bums that would clean navy ships with a tooth brush and they let you out in each city they docked in for an hour. Broke ass basement dwelling bum.
 
just to clarify coleman in 2004 is not sonnen in 2018 why argue anymore just wait for the fight
 
Thing is, Fedor's chin looks as shot as they come, and Sonnen can land and when he does land, he can hurt you, though he probably doesn't really have a good ko power.

For me, Fedor is the greatest of all time, and Chael Sonnen is a journeyman, a felon, a snitch, a cheater, who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

It would really be a really sad and dark day if Fedor loses to Sonnen, and I can't really say that Fedor should be favoured, because when you look at his training vids...his grappling looks like that of 60 year old drunk russian man, and his chin looks like as shot as Donald Trump's credibility...

But, if you think the only way Fedor can lose is being wrestlefucked, well Fedor have never been wrestlefucked in his life.
Watch him fight Ricardo arona
 
Lol you were probably one of those bums that would clean navy ships with a tooth brush and they let you out in each city they docked in for an hour. Broke ass basement dwelling bum.

Only a small part of my travels was with the military, and officers don't do the cleaning (plus I wasn't in the Navy). But keep guessing and making things up. I'm sure it strokes your ego.
 
Um he's faced and beaten Coleman and Randleman who would destroy Cheal in short order, of course you could argue Fedor today(and indeed for the last decade) isn't nearly as good a grappler anymore.
Coleman and Randleman are two of the only well known fighters with worse sub defense then Sonnen
 
Bader would have stolen Sonnen's soul in any point in their careers.
Bader >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonnen

What did Sonnen 'accomplish'? LOL
He wrecked the best and most feared striker in MW for almost 25mins straight, so I mean.. it wasn't a W..but there is that.
 
Thing is, Fedor's chin looks as shot as they come, and Sonnen can land and when he does land, he can hurt you, though he probably doesn't really have a good ko power.

For me, Fedor is the greatest of all time, and Chael Sonnen is a journeyman, a felon, a snitch, a cheater, who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

It would really be a really sad and dark day if Fedor loses to Sonnen, and I can't really say that Fedor should be favoured, because when you look at his training vids...his grappling looks like that of 60 year old drunk russian man, and his chin looks like as shot as Donald Trump's credibility...

But, if you think the only way Fedor can lose is being wrestlefucked, well Fedor have never been wrestlefucked in his life.
Dumb ass troll, you were right until the trump thing, fuckin troll ass liberal feminine progressive hack
 
BigFoot Silva wrestlerucked in the second round, it only take 3 second to land a takedown

But I’m stilla Fedor fan
 
Only a small part of my travels was with the military, and officers don't do the cleaning (plus I wasn't in the Navy). But keep guessing and making things up. I'm sure it strokes your ego.


Hahahhahaha I'm right!!!!
 
Coleman and Randleman are two of the only well known fighters with worse sub defense then Sonnen

If Coleman was so easy to sub how come Shogun (Chrstiano Marcelo Black Belt) never came close to submitting him after spending extended periods of time on the ground with him?

How come Stephan Bonnar who was on steroids and a Renzo Gracie Black Belt unable to submit a 46 year old, shot Coleman who took him down and smashed him from the top with ease?

Coleman sub defense wasnt amazing, but he smashed plenty of guys from the top who were either black belts or very competent in grappling.
 
I’m a fan of saku, believe me. I’ve always been a fan. He was one of the first real well rounded guys and had so many fun fights. Unfortunately, being a pioneer and being brave doesn’t make you a GOAT. Maybe in his time, but throughout all of MMA history at this point, I don’t consider him at all. Fedor yes, saku no. Fedor is on any GOAT list and for many he’s THE greatest.

Personally, I think this GOAT discussion is just dumb. There’s so many factors, so many traits certain fighters have that can put them near the top when skill wise they’re not actually that great, you know what I mean? Fedor was amazing, skill wise. Not only that but he was unbelievably dominant for the most part.

Then you have someone like Cain who was looking amazing but his career has been ruined from injuries (not saying Cain is goat). Skill wise, Cain was one of the best we’ve ever seen for a HW and was insanely dominant. He lost unlike fedor, but that’s the game. Although Cain fought a lot of the same guys.. he beat ‘prime’ JDS.

To me, the issue with Jr. is he never evolved. But back before he was ever beaten in the UFC n knocking everybody out, Cain’s wins are incredible. Had he never been plagued with injuries, I definitely could’ve seen him ruling the division for a good while. Cain never really got to prove himself against a lot of great opponents but skill wise I believe he’s one of the best HW’s ever, also one of he most effective and that’s truly what matters in the end.

I put GSP at the top. His record is amazing considering the level of competition he faced. his skill, fight IQ (best ever), athletic ability, etc, he’s above everybody. People can say he’s a cheater but he was never caught unlike Silva and Jones. I’m not a huge fan of GSPs fighting style but I can appreciate how good he is. I understand what he’s doing in there and it’s not easy. Sometimes It’s easier to go for the KO and sub than it is to pick your opponent apart for 25 minutes. Some won’t believe that but they’re dumb n can fuck off.

Saku wasn’t just brave(of course the guy had balls of steels) but he was also skilled, guy had wins over rampage, Belfort, white, Royce Renzo Roiles Gracie’s, randleman, Newton, mezger and shamrock not to mention fought guys well above his weight like mirko, wanderlei, arona and manhoef.... guy had it all, talent, heart, balls, showmanship and a lot of charisma. Also keep in mind he did all this while being a heavy smoker and not training like crazy

But yea I agree gsp is the best his level of competition was just insane back then
 

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