Fedor, Cruz and Aldo are the clear P4P top 3 MMA fighters in history

Fedor is in his late 30's. You can't discredit his entire career because he lost some fights at the end of his career. If GSP fought into his mid-late 30's he'd lose some fights too, It happens
Fedor was 33 when Werdum beat him, not "mid to late 30s". Get real.
 
He got submitted by Werdum, how is he GOAT?
How is Michael Jordan the GOAT? He wasn't very good in Washington, and he lost a lot.

Whenever there is a GOAT poll here Fedor wins by a landslide. A lot of people here have been watching MMA for 10+ years, and vote accordingly. Other people are mad they started watching after Griffin/Bonnar.
 
Fedor, Cruz and Aldo are the clear P4P top 3 MMA fighters in history in Hi-tech's opinion.

Fixed.
 
How is Michael Jordan the GOAT? He wasn't very good in Washington, and he lost a lot.

Whenever there is a GOAT poll here Fedor wins by a landslide. A lot of people here have been watching MMA for 10+ years, and vote accordingly. Other people are mad they started watching after Griffin/Bonnar.
Michael who?
 
Fedor was 33 when Werdum beat him, not "mid to late 30s". Get real.

And GSP got KO'd by Serra when he
was 25, what's your point? It was Fedor's first legit loss in his 33 fight, 10 year career. Get real
 
Finishing ability should have a say. Either way, Cruz is not near that discussion
 
Lol at calling Mighty mouses division thin when Fedor was fighting the likes of Zuluzinho, Lindland and Gary fucking goodridge. He had to cheat to beat Lindland, LOL.
 
Lol at calling Mighty mouses division thin when Fedor was fighting the likes of Zuluzinho, Lindland and Gary fucking goodridge. He had to cheat to beat Lindland, LOL.
Gsp cheated vs Penn.
 
Lol at calling Mighty mouses division thin when Fedor was fighting the likes of Zuluzinho, Lindland and Gary fucking goodridge. He had to cheat to beat Lindland, LOL.
Why would you pick fedors worst wins to evaluate his division? He has way better wins than just zuluzinho & goodridge. Over all fedors division was far tougher than MM's. It's really not even close. HW is always the toughest division to reign in, but MM has faced some weak guys as well.
 
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TS deserves a ban for such a retarded thread.
 
I'm on the fence about excluding juicers.

On the one hand, I believe that 90% are on something ...or at least they were pre USADA, judging by all the deflated-looking guys we're seeing now.

On the other hand, there are probably a few top guys who were always clean. So a guy who was caught juicing might have edged certain career defining fights because he had that little extra pep in his step. 1-2 fights matter in a P4P discussion.

ex: what would have happened in Jones's fight vs Gus or Cormier if he had been clean? It's really hard to shrug that off.

Anyone else feel like this?
 
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