Crime FBI was 'prepared to use deadly force' in Trump raid Marjorie Taylor Green claims Biden was planning to assassinate Trump

[kflo]

Yes. Because trump claiming that this was something out of the ordinary for an fbi search? Is that edgy?? Do you suggest the fbi change their standard policy for these tasks to cater to whom they are searching?

The trump idiots who believe this was some sort of plot out of the ordinary clearly bought into trumps “edginess”

assassination denier!

note, you can't spell assassination without 2 asses together.

 

[jefferz]

So against whom were they "prepared to use deadly force"? Were they "prepared" to have a shoot out with the secret service? What is an example scenario where they might have to shoot people? Yes, they could have easily sent a couple of suits who don't carry guns for a document retrieval. You bust in with guns drawn if you're trying to take somebody into custody or breaking up a drug ring and are concerned about a potential ambush or hostages. Which of those apply to a document retrieval at a recent president's house?

What is the point of secret service protection if the opposing DOJ can send a separate unelected agency to their opponent's house "prepared to use deadly force"?

I guess congratulations if your goal was gain support for Trump, because you know goddamn well that if Trump had sent agents to bust into Obama's house with guns drawn to retrieve documents, or to the Clintons' house to retrieve the furniture they stole, or a drug and prostitution raid at Hunter's house, you'd absolutely shit yourself and say we're living in Nazi Germany.

Yeah, it’s not like serving a warrant has ever went wrong, and ended in a shootout.

They weren’t going after a dinner menu, they were going after CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!
You know, national secrets, that Trump bragged about having and he wasn’t going to return them.

This is standard operating procedure. That’s how warrants work.
If you had classified documents in your home, do you think you would be treated the same as Trump has been?
Hell no, you wouldn’t.
But y’all think Trump should be treated different, then turn around and scream about a two tiered justice system.

 

[Striderxdj]

Did they coordinate with the secret service or did they have no idea who they might encounter who could start shooting at them?

You do realize that these are not mutually exclusive things, right?

Coordinating with secret service:
FBI - Hey guys, we're conducting a search warrant of Mar-a-lago, just to avoid any sort of confrontation/escalation or drama, is Trump and his family currently away from the property?

Secret Service - He's not in Florida, nor are Melania and Barron.

That is still coordination, but it says nothing about what/who else they may potentially encounter while executing the warrant.

 

[oldshadow]

You've never said anything in your life or had a novel thought that was over my head.

Well this certainly did as it was never meant to be taken literally.

Because the change of it happen is so small.

 

[kflo]

You do realize that these are not mutually exclusive things, right?

Coordinating with secret service:
FBI - Hey guys, we're conducting a search warrant of Mar-a-lago, just to avoid any sort of confrontation/escalation or drama, is Trump and his family currently away from the property?

Secret Service - He's not in Florida, nor are Melania and Barron.

That is still coordination, but it says nothing about what/who else they may potentially encounter while executing the warrant.

he thinks the security detail for trump is also the security and service provider regulating all of mar-a-lago. it's not the fuckin white house.

 

[nostradumbass]

Yeah, it’s not like serving a warrant has ever went wrong, and ended in a shootout.

They weren’t going after a dinner menu, they were going after CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!
You know, national secrets, that Trump bragged about having and he wasn’t going to return them.

This is standard operating procedure. That’s how warrants work.
If you had classified documents in your home, do you think you would be treated the same as Trump has been?
Hell no, you wouldn’t.
But y’all think Trump should be treated different, then turn around and scream about a two tiered justice system.

Yeah, the "two tiered justice system" refers to people being immune from prosecution, which they are, not treating a document recovery like you're arresting Pablo Escobar.

Yes, someone who was rightfully given classified documents and even had declassification authority having classified documents is not quite the same as a random citizen having them.

You do realize that these are not mutually exclusive things, right?

Coordinating with secret service:
FBI - Hey guys, we're conducting a search warrant of Mar-a-lago, just to avoid any sort of confrontation/escalation or drama, is Trump and his family currently away from the property?

Secret Service - He's not in Florida, nor are Melania and Barron.

That is still coordination, but it says nothing about what/who else they may potentially encounter while executing the warrant.

Did that make sense in your head?

Yes, it does say everything about "what they may potentially encounter ". That is the lowest risk raid that has ever happened.

Feel free to quote yourself in all the other raids, warrants and traffic stops on actual armed drug dealers and violent criminals where you leaned toward favoring the police pulling guns. Do they know "who/what they may potentially encounter" when they pull some over for a traffic violation?

 

[jefferz]

Yeah, the "two tiered justice system" refers to people being immune from prosecution, which they are, not treating a document recovery like you're arresting Pablo Escobar.

Yes, someone who was rightfully given classified documents and even had declassification authority having classified documents is not quite the same as a random citizen having them.




Did that make sense in your head?

Yes, it does say everything about "what they may potentially encounter ". That is the lowest risk raid that has ever happened.

Feel free to quote yourself in all the other raids, warrants and traffic stops on actual armed drug dealers and violent criminals where you leaned toward favoring the police pulling guns. Do they know "who/what they may potentially encounter" when they pull some over for a traffic violation?

They weren’t just a document, they were CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!


Trump didn’t declassify them. And no, Trump can’t just imagine a document is declassified, and it’s declassified.
There’s procedures for declassifying a document, which Trump didn’t follow.

 

[nostradumbass]

They weren’t just a document, they were CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!


Trump didn’t declassify them. And no, Trump can’t just imagine a document is declassified, and it’s declassified.
There’s procedures for declassifying a document, which Trump didn’t follow.

He didn't even notify the unelected intelligence community?!!?! This is an outrage. I demand my government keep more secrets from me. Congratulations, you've reached cuck level 9000.

Too Many Top Secrets (Published 2023)

The U.S. government classifies tens of millions of documents a year. Experts say the practice is excessive.

www.nytimes.com

The federal government classifies more than 50 million documents a year. It's difficult, if not impossible, to keep track of all of them.

 

[jefferz]

He didn't even notify the unelected intelligence community?!!?! This is an outrage. I demand my government keep more secrets from me. Congratulations, you've reached cuck level 9000.

Too Many Top Secrets (Published 2023)

The U.S. government classifies tens of millions of documents a year. Experts say the practice is excessive.

www.nytimes.com

The federal government classifies more than 50 million documents a year. It's difficult, if not impossible, to keep track of all of them.

Holy shit.
You don't even realize what you did there, do you?

 

[kflo]

He didn't even notify the unelected intelligence community?!!?! This is an outrage. I demand my government keep more secrets from me. Congratulations, you've reached cuck level 9000.

Too Many Top Secrets (Published 2023)

The U.S. government classifies tens of millions of documents a year. Experts say the practice is excessive.

www.nytimes.com

The federal government classifies more than 50 million documents a year. It's difficult, if not impossible, to keep track of all of them.

you realize nara represents the public? It is tasked with increasing public access to documents that make up the National Archives. trump was blocking nara from access to those records. you are cucking yourself.

 

[curryjunkie]

FBI was 'prepared to use deadly force' in Trump raid

A new court filing unsealed on Tuesday in the Trump classified documents case revealed federal agents were prepared to use 'deadly force' when executing a raid at Mar-a-Lago in 2022.

www.dailymail.co.uk

FBI was 'prepared to use deadly force' in Trump raid: Explosive new details in the Mar-a-Lago classified files probe are revealed... including where more documents were found

A new court filing unsealed on Tuesday in the Trump classified documents case revealed federal agents were prepared to use 'deadly force' when executing a raid at Mar-a-Lago in 2022.

That raid on the ex-president's home ended with the FBI seizing hundreds of documents containing classified information.

Trump, 77, is now criminally charged for mishandling top secret documents taken to his Florida estate after he left office.

In the former president's motion challenging the legality of the FBI's raid filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, the filing notes an 'Operation Order' produced in discovery which contained a 'Policy Statement' regarding 'Use of Deadly Force.'

The filing says the Order states 'for example, "Law enforcement officers with the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary..."'

It also says 'the agents planned to bring "Standard Issue Weapons 

Marjorie Taylor Greene claims Biden 'planning to assassinate Trump'

Marjorie Taylor Greene was outraged by revelations the FBI 'prepared to use deadly force' in its raid of Mar-a-Lago and thinks Joe Biden planned to assassinate Donald Trump.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Marjorie Taylor Greene makes wild claim that Biden was 'planning to assassinate Trump' - as former president reacts to bombshell revelations the FBI was 'prepared to use deadly force' for Mar-a-Lago raid

"The Biden DOJ and FBI were planning to assassinate Pres Trump and gave the green light,' Greene wrote on X Tuesday. 'I made sure that he knew.'

Can you imagine the FBI and the Secret Service getting into a shoot out? Crazy stuff all around and it could have lead into a conflict with two government agencies.

 

[nostradumbass]

you realize nara represents the public? It is tasked with increasing public access to documents that make up the National Archives. trump was blocking nara from access to those records. you are cucking yourself.

You think the government make single copies of years old documents, and this "raid" was to get back the single copy so they could share them with you? Is that what you're claiming here?

 

[kflo]

You think the government make single copies of years old documents, and this "raid" was to get back the single copy so they could share them with you? Is that what you're claiming here?

is this an act?

presidential records are PUBLIC PROPERTY.

do you even presidential records act, bro?
here's 2 little bullet points directly from the government website on the PRA:

• Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.
• Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

 

[Andy Capp]

Whoever might be there. It's standard for all search warrants. If you support exempting politicians from laws, you should want it codified.

Like I said, you don't have to play along with every fake story of the day.

Ah, the irony, eh, @nostradumbass

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Breaking: Left wingers want their political opponents killed.

Gonna be hard to find a less surprising story. FFS, they were publishing columns titled "dancing on the graves of anti vaxxers may be ghoulish, but necessary", and had to go back and change it from "dancing on the graves" to "mocking", because he thought that somehow made it better.

Left wingers or Biden and the FBI? Who exactly published that column?

As far as anti-vaxxers go they are a danger to themselves and others as we can see with outbreaks like the measles. There's no need to celebrate their deaths but it's ironic how many Covid deniers went on to die from it.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Anyone who believes a word that comes out of MTG's mouth is a complete moron.

Thanks for self identifying.

He's just running interference with a weak whattaboutism since he isn't stating he believes her claim. He doesn't mind self identifying as a partisan hack but even he knows this fake news is clearly for suckers.

 

[nostradumbass]

Ah, the irony, eh, @nostradumbass

Huh?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

You said you believe it and support it yourself in the first post of the thread, you unstoppable retard.

The lie here is that it was an assassination attempt, not that they were authorized to use deadly force, as it's standard procedure.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I only see clips. Obviously I think the house in general are a goofy mixed bag. From what I've seen she isn't great.

A literal Qanon space laser whacko.

 

[Jack V Savage]

The lie here is that it was an assassination attempt, not that they were authorized to use deadly force, as it's standard procedure.

I'm sure Nostra and MTG are consistent and believe that every search warrant is effectively an attempt to kill everyone in the building (or the owners even if they're not home).