FBI raids office of Michael Cohen, personal attorney to Donald Trump

[andnowweknow]

I have noted that you made no attempt to refute any of his arguments.

Im glad you're taking notes. His arguments are that despite having no idea idea what sort of evidence led to the FBI warrants he doesn't think it should have been allowed. The standards are incredibly high for those warrants, and Dershowitz knows it. He's playing a bullshit devil's advocate position.

The guy is a self serving spotlight seeker. See his involvement in the OJ Simpson trial.

 

[Throttlehead]

I’m not sure where you’re getting the mudslinging thing from. Here’s a simple example.


“Coleen Rowley, a former FBI special agent and former Minneapolis Division legal counsel of the FBI, wrote an Op-Ed in the Huffington Post last year No, Robert Mueller and James Comey Aren’t Heroes stated that when the truth about Bulger “was finally uncovered through intrepid investigative reporting and persistent, honest judges, U.S. taxpayers footed a $100 million court award to the four men framed for murders committed by (the FBI operated) Bulger gang.”

But Mueller never was asked by Congress, “what did you know about Whitey Bulger, and when did you know it?”

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Surely you’ll admit that’s not in line with the story they sold about Meuller to the public.

Right from the Sean Hannity show to Sherdog. BTW, a little secret for you Bob, Sean Hannity does not do news. Its just an opinion show.

Good job Bob, your political astuteness you brag of is shyte.

 

[Throttlehead]

Inside the GOP plan to discredit Comey

President Donald Trump's allies are preparing an extensive campaign to fight back against James Comey's publicity tour, trying to undermine the credibility of the former FBI director by reviving the blistering Democratic criticism of him before he was fired nearly a year ago.

The battle plan against Comey, obtained by CNN, calls for branding the nation's former top law enforcement official as "Lyin' Comey" through a website, digital advertising and talking points to be sent to Republicans across the country before his memoir is released next week. The White House signed off on the plan, which is being overseen by the Republican National Committee.
"Comey is a liar and a leaker and his misconduct led both Republicans and Democrats to call for his firing," Republican chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said in a statement to CNN. "If Comey wants the spotlight back on him, we'll make sure the American people understand why he has no one but himself to blame for his complete lack of credibility."
While it's an open question how successful Republicans will be in making their case against Comey, given that Trump unceremoniously dismissed him last May 9, there is no doubt that many Democrats remain furious at how the former FBI director treated Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Republicans hope to remind Democrats why they disliked Comey by assailing his credibility, shining a new light on his conduct and pointing out his contradictions -- or the three Cs.
An old quotation from Clinton is prominently displayed on the "Lyin'Comey" website, with Trump's former Democratic rival saying that Comey "badly overstepped his bounds."

 

[bobgeese]

Right from the Sean Hannity show to Sherdog. BTW, a little secret for you Bob, Sean Hannity does not do news. Its just an opinion show.

Good job Bob, your political astuteness you brag of is shyte.

So, Huffington Post stories are the Hannity show now...


As expected, you can’t refute anything I said.

 

[Andy Capp]

CNN is reporting:
Trump backing off on claim “the missiles are coming”
Trump’s name on the Cohen raid warrant re: access Hollywood tape.

Pattern of payments to various people to silence sources of scandalous behaviour by Trump, one of whom claimed Trump had love child resulting from illicit affair. They’re saying there was a pattern of misusing funds to avoid scandal as a political candidate.
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Opinions?

 

[Throttlehead]

So, Huffington Post stories are the Hannity show now...


As expected, you can’t refute anything I said.

She's a deep state nutjob like Hannity, he probably read her articles. Exactly what Hannity was pushing when the meathead in charge said to watch Hannity show, yes, the President of the USA told his peeps to watch Sean Fucking Hannity.

 

[Andy Capp]

Also from CNN, “I don’t think anyone knows what Trump’s tweets mean, including his own advisors.” -Sen. Ed Markey (D) Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

That's not true. I want to know Mueller's purview, and no one in this thread has been able to spell it out. Most of the people in this thread just want to see their political enemies fall. Madison did not believe in democracy for this very reason. The masses are happy to throw out process in the name of expediency.

That's not what's happening. You're shitposting because you're unhappy your poor Trump is in danger and your trying to disguise it as "nobody will answer muh earnest questions"

 

[Jack V Savage]

This is probably the most interesting disagreement I've found between you and me. I think the probability of Trump and Putin having a quid pro quo exchange for the DNC hack is less than 1%. What are the chances in your eyes?

I think the question is whether Russia even considered it necessary (that is, if they already saw Trump as someone they could completely control, they'd just want to help and wouldn't need a specific deal). But I think that's pushing it a little far. More likely, it was another bit of leverage (and note that apparently the only issue that Trump's team cared about in the GOP platform was support for pro-West factions in Ukraine).

 

[Limbo Pete]

I've posted it many times in this thread already.

(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation


The point is that "individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump" is not clearly defined. Some anti-Trump partisans, such as @Limbo Pete, have even said explicitly that they want no limits on what Mueller can look into. I'm trying to understand if the other, less rabid posters are imposing any limits at all. For example, I was able to get one poster to write that Mueller should be able to question a janitor from the Trump Organization (note that the Organization and the campaign are different entities).

What the what now?

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

CNN is reporting:
Trump backing off on claim “the missiles are coming”
Trump’s name on the Cohen raid warrant re: access Hollywood tape.

Pattern of payments to various people to silence sources of scandalous behaviour by Trump, one of whom claimed Trump had love child resulting from illicit affair. They’re saying there was a pattern of misusing funds to avoid scandal as a political candidate.
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Opinions?

I feel like there might be state charges but I'm not sure what? Misappropriation of funds?

 

[Andy Capp]

I feel like there might be state charges but I'm not sure what? Misappropriation of funds?

Dunno. Seems like they’re pushing that narrative though, with reason, mind you. The one thing I didn’t realize is that this is the first time Trump was mentioned on a warrant. How significant that is remains to be seen but it’s in connection with attempts to suppress the “grab ‘em by the pussy” tape among others.

 

[bobgeese]

She's a deep state nutjob like Hannity, he probably read her articles. Exactly what Hannity was pushing when the meathead in charge said to watch Hannity show, yes, the President of the USA told his peeps to watch Sean Fucking Hannity.

Like I said, you can’t refute the claim, and you haven’t the integrity to acknowledge that the story told to America about Meuller ended up not really matching reality.


Btw, that’s not to say he’s a dishonorable person or anything. In fact, I would think it’s damn near impossible to rise to his level without getting your hands dirty.

That still doesn’t negate the fact that he’s not what he was advertised as.

 

[ShoelessRye]

Looking into Cohen and National Enquirer relationship and if Cohen steered people who wouldn't accept hush deal NDA's for money to Enquirer who would offer similar money and then never publish the story.

Latest is an ex-Trump Tower doorman who sold a story to NE, about Trump fathering another child in the late 1980's, for $30K only to never see it published.

Why is NE buying these anti-Trump stories for lots of money and then never publishing them? Does NE regularly buy stories and then never publish or is it only Trump stories? Since this story and the other playboy model one was also in the peak of the Presidential Campaign - if they bought them completely with the intent to never publish and that intent was to bury the story to help Trump win than that is an illegal campaign contribution.

 

[essie]

Not even close really. Who are the really solid right wing posters on this site? Serious question, I want to make sure I'm not missing something. I wish there were some really good right wing posters, because there are plenty of things I'd agree with them on.

@Rex Kwon Do

 

[HomerThompson]

Opinions?

Duh.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Looking into Cohen and National Enquirer relationship and if Cohen steered people who wouldn't accept hush deal NDA's for money to Enquirer who would offer similar money and then never publish the story.

Latest is an ex-Trump Tower doorman who sold a story to NE, about Trump fathering another child in the late 1980's, for $30K only to never see it published.

Why is NE buying these anti-Trump stories for lots of money and then never publishing them? Does NE regularly buy stories and then never publish or is it only Trump stories? Since this story and the other playboy model one was also in the peak of the Presidential Campaign - if they bought them completely with the intent to never publish and that intent was to bury the story to help Trump win than that is an illegal campaign contribution.

A+ level analysis. I'm still hoping there's state charges issued to Cohen.

 

[grimballer]

Should trump just fire muller at this point?

If seems he’s way outta line here

Going after mans lawyer

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Should trump just fire muller at this point?

If seems he’s way outta line here

Going after mans lawyer

Mueller isn't going after Cohen. The SD NY is. Get your facts straight. Going after a potential criminal is what a LEO does.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41

federal requirements for a warrant.

Go back to trolling elsewhere, adults are conversing.

 

[grimballer]

Mueller isn't going after Cohen. The SD NY is. Get your facts straight. Going after a potential criminal is what a LEO does.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_41

federal requirements for a warrant.

Go back to trolling elsewhere, adults are conversing.

Yeah just make up some charges to go after the guy

Definition of partisan hack