Perceived? It's proven.This thread is crazy. From bro-hugging to simultaneously discussing JvS' perceived dishonesty, Mir vs Big Nog and the state of the Heavies
Anung Rama is A-Ok in my book.
He can come by me to smoke up and read comics on my nice sofa anytime he wants.
Prob feed him some high end Mezcal as well.l
I have good high end tequilas if u like that better Cubo.
Natman was an idiot. I still remember arguing with him that Brock would take Mir down. He said it was suicide to take down a black belt of Brock's calibre and that Brock would outstrike Mir. I knew Brock couldnt strike for shit even back then.
JVS handed out justice to those HW posters.
No I get it. A decent amount of his fights post-accident aren't "dominant" wins. It's not like a JDS win where he beats you up and drops you multiple times. It's sudden and violent, and he might've been losing beforehand. But he gets the win. Either that or nothing of note happens and then he pulls off a finish, like vs Kongo and Bigfoot.
I really wonder how good he would've been if he didn't get into his motorcycle wreck. A HW with explosiveness, KO power and bone breaking subs. Damn. Losing out a couple years of your prime has to really fucking suck too.
It was Herb
I hated Mir for awhile but he grew on me. He's been a part of so many entertaining fights.Ps. I've always liked and defend Mir. Dude will fight anybody and has always had a decent chance of beating anybody.
There is just something about MIR and Barnett, its like there is something that is holding them back from legend status. You look at them and you think they should be better than they are or at least have achieved more. Barnett especiallyI hated Mir for awhile but he grew on me. He's been a part of so many entertaining fights.
There is just something about MIR and Barnett, its like there is something that is holding them back from legend status. You look at them and you think they should be better than they are or at least have achieved more. Barnett especially
yes I know he has great grappling credentials, etc. I just thought he could b more dominant at mma.
I hated Mir for awhile but he grew on me. He's been a part of so many entertaining fights.
There is just something about MIR and Barnett, its like there is something that is holding them back from legend status. You look at them and you think they should be better than they are or at least have achieved more. Barnett especially
I can understand mir drop off after the wreck, but Barnett should have been more dominate. I think Barnett is a legend to people in the know (especially with grappling thrown in). I was referring to the general public.Both champs. Both faced top competition. Neither dominated. If you've only got room for 3-5 legends I understand. I'm personally more expansive than that.
I can understand mir drop off after the wreck, but Barnett should have been more dominate. I think Barnett is a legend to people in the know (especially with grappling thrown in). I was referring to the general public.
yep, I wish the UFC would do either a weighted tournament or open weight tourney.That's the thing about Mir, he achieved pre-and-post-accident.
Barnett was one bad matchup from stealing Mirko's open-weight crown. Josh would have easily smothered Wand while Mirko would have done what to Nog? But that's the bitch of it with tourneys. Saku went 90 with Royce and then had to fight Igor. I forget who Igor dispatched with relative ease.
I sure do miss those days. Fuckin' fuck. Legitimacy and fun just might be mutually exclusive.
Alright, lemme see your top 5 list.
I'll answer this way.
Fedor is number one, then there are five or so who could be argued from two to six (Big Nog, Frank Mir, Mirko Cro Cop, Josh Barnett and Randy Couture). After that there are another three or four and then another three or four.
I'll go with:
1. Fedor
2. Mir
3. Big Nog
4. Cro Cop
5. Josh Barnett
6. Randy Couture
7. Werdum
8. Mark Coleman
9. Vovchanchyn
10. Cain Velasquez
11. Andre Arlovski
12. Tim Sylvia
13. Alistair Overeem
14. Junior Dos Santos
15. Pedro Rizzo
16. Antonio Silva
17. Brock Lesnar
18. Shane Carwin
19. Mark Hunt
20. Gabriel Gonzaga
21. Ben Rothwell
22. Kevin Randleman
23. Roy Nelson
24. Don Frye
25. Dan Severn
Something like that. The last 15 or so are quite interchangeable.