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Not if they run away. Then it becomes murder.
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Law Farmer at Isolated British Farmhouse shoots two burglars at around 1am, killing one and seriously injuring the other. Murder + Attempted Murder Arrest
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Usual British tabloid judgementalism. He's divorced so he's a lesser person.
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He's divorced so that explains why he was living there alone, you tool.
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I should think this full exonerates the farmer.A story about this just happened to pop up today. Perhaps the thieves didn't bother to check a smaller tool for a tracking chip. Look at the scale of theft by these bastards. It's like Ali Baba's cave:
A stolen power tool with a tracking device led police to a cache of missing caravans and vehicles, a slew of tools and a quad bike.
Police searching for a single power tool were staggered when it led them to a hoard of more than 1,000 suspected stolen items that could be worth more than £500,000.
The find is one of the largest Kent Police has dealt with and images show hundreds of drills, garden equipment, boxes of tools and a hoover were among the haul recovered.
The discovery was made after a tradesman who had suffered multiple thefts attached trackers to his tools. When officers from the force’s Rural Task Force followed a GPS signal they discovered the other items.
The quad bike is suspected to have been stolen from Ashford, while the six caravans are thought to have been from thefts in Bristol, Wales, Southampton, Staffordshire and Sussex. Four vehicles were also seized along with a huge number of power tools.
Five local men, aged between 18 and 44, were arrested alongside a 19-year-old woman and 17-year-old boy on suspicion of multiple offences relating to theft.
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I know this an old post but I just saw it and I totally agree. I think whatever a home or business owner does to someone breaking in should be legal. I also don't understand why it doesn't get people locked up for good. I don't think it would be a bad idea to tack on attempted rape,kidnapping, murder , assault and basically attempted everything that could have gone wrong on the caper. I had some problems with breakins when I lived in shacktown/Inkster and I swear to God I hope the worst things in the world happen to these people. Our system is way too soft on this type of crime and England's is straight up ridiculous. The heroin addicts that lived behind me ,caught the bad guys and absolutely beat their asses got in more trouble with the law than the robbers. Shit still makes me pissed to this day. Boy did they lay a beating on em though.
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Looking into the sheep theft situation a bit more it's worse than I thought (as usual).
www.theguardian.com
Figures released this week by the rural insurer NFU Mutual reveal that farm animals worth £3m were stolen from UK farms in 2019.
Large-scale sheep thefts in particular are on the rise, making rustling the most costly crime for Britain’s farmers after agricultural vehicle and machinery theft, according to the insurer.
Candy’s theft was the third in rapid succession within a few miles. His ewes were taken shortly after Christmas from the Bowood Estate at Derry Hill, near Chippenham. The week before 61 were stolen from a farm near Melksham, 10 miles away. Forty-five sheep were stolen in November from Lacock, just down the road from Bowood.
Rebecca Davidson, a rural affairs specialist at NFU Mutual, said rustling caused suffering to farmers and to the animals.
She said: “Rustling has always been an aspect of farming but 10 years ago we would rarely see claims of more than a dozen sheep taken in one go. We are now... [often] getting reports of 50-100 sheep being taken in a single raid and it is devastating for farmers. As well as causing untold suffering to sheep, which may be in lamb when they are stolen, rustling is causing high levels of anxiety for farmers who have built up their flocks over many years. Rustlers are getting more skilled and organised, quickly loading sheep on to trailers and lorries late at night. We are concerned that gangs are now using working sheepdogs, which have also been stolen, to get the job done.”
An alarming trend is the illegal butchery of animals in the field. Rather than having the bother of moving animals – and hiding them until they or their meat can be sold on – thieves sometimes prefer to kill them where they are, butcher the carcasses and leave the remains.
Farmers and their families are devastated when they go to check their flocks to find the bloodied remains.
www.fwi.co.uk
www.leicestermercury.co.uk
www.farringdon-law.co.uk
It was a spate of attacks that terrorised farming communities in Northamptonshire. Under the cover of darkness hundreds of sheep and lambs were slaughtered and butchered in fields.
The sheep remains were left scattered around fields for horrified farmers to discover. The meat was most likely destined for the black market.
Between June and October last year, three men from Birmingham stalked the countryside, killing and butchering sheep in order to steal the meat and profit from it. On 27 March [2020] Viorel Manu, Robert Iordan and Florin Nutu were jailed for their crimes.
Viorel Manu, Robert Iordan and Florin Nutu
Their conviction and sentencing brought justice for the farmers whose livelihoods were threatened.
It was made possible by rural communities rallying together, working with Northamptonshire Police on an operation that lasted several months and ended with the trio being caught red-handed.
Crucial intelligence from the public led officers to arrest the gang in the early hours of 7 October on the A14 near Welton, Lincolnshire. Blood-soaked butcher knives and the carcasses of nine sheep were found in the back of their van.
The men were found responsible for at least 12 recorded incidents of illegal sheep slaughtering in Northamptonshire.
“The offence we went for was conspiracy to commit theft as opposed to just theft itself. This means you’re looking at harder sentencing.”
A farmer in the Lutterworth area told LeicestershireLive at the height of the attacks: "It's horrendous. People are extremely angry and extremely worried. Thieves have stole livestock before, but these people are slaughtering sheep in the field, which is new. I assume they are hanging the animals up, slitting their throats and removing the meat. It's all very professional."
All three eventually pleaded guilty and were sentenced at Northampton Crown Court on 27 March. Iordan, 23, and Nutu, 36, were both jailed for four years and four months and Manu, 39, was ordered to serve two years and 11 months.
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Manu also had a Romanian barrister, Ioana Nedelcu (I haven't checked the others):
Romanians aren't usually Muslim but it sounds like they were killing the sheep in the Halal/Kosher manner.
'It is devastating': UK farmers despair as sheep thefts soar
Animals worth £3m were stolen from Britain’s farms in 2019, but farmers are fighting back
www.theguardian.com
Figures released this week by the rural insurer NFU Mutual reveal that farm animals worth £3m were stolen from UK farms in 2019.
Large-scale sheep thefts in particular are on the rise, making rustling the most costly crime for Britain’s farmers after agricultural vehicle and machinery theft, according to the insurer.
Candy’s theft was the third in rapid succession within a few miles. His ewes were taken shortly after Christmas from the Bowood Estate at Derry Hill, near Chippenham. The week before 61 were stolen from a farm near Melksham, 10 miles away. Forty-five sheep were stolen in November from Lacock, just down the road from Bowood.
Rebecca Davidson, a rural affairs specialist at NFU Mutual, said rustling caused suffering to farmers and to the animals.
She said: “Rustling has always been an aspect of farming but 10 years ago we would rarely see claims of more than a dozen sheep taken in one go. We are now... [often] getting reports of 50-100 sheep being taken in a single raid and it is devastating for farmers. As well as causing untold suffering to sheep, which may be in lamb when they are stolen, rustling is causing high levels of anxiety for farmers who have built up their flocks over many years. Rustlers are getting more skilled and organised, quickly loading sheep on to trailers and lorries late at night. We are concerned that gangs are now using working sheepdogs, which have also been stolen, to get the job done.”
An alarming trend is the illegal butchery of animals in the field. Rather than having the bother of moving animals – and hiding them until they or their meat can be sold on – thieves sometimes prefer to kill them where they are, butcher the carcasses and leave the remains.
Farmers and their families are devastated when they go to check their flocks to find the bloodied remains.
Northamptonshire sheep slaughter: The story behind the killing spree - Farmers Weekly
It was a spate of attacks that terrorised farming communities in Northamptonshire. Under the cover of darkness, hundreds of sheep and lambs were
www.fwi.co.uk
Northamptonshire sheep slaughter: Three men jailed
There were 12 reports of livestock being taken and killed from farmers' fields last year.
www.bbc.co.uk
Faces of 'barbaric' thieves who slit throats of lambs
They sneaked into fields late at night to carry out their horrific crimes
www.leicestermercury.co.uk
Ioana Nedelcu represents man in the highly publicised Northamptonshire sheep slaughter
Farringdon Chambers represents man in the highly publicised Northamptonshire sheep slaughter
www.farringdon-law.co.uk
It was a spate of attacks that terrorised farming communities in Northamptonshire. Under the cover of darkness hundreds of sheep and lambs were slaughtered and butchered in fields.
The sheep remains were left scattered around fields for horrified farmers to discover. The meat was most likely destined for the black market.
Between June and October last year, three men from Birmingham stalked the countryside, killing and butchering sheep in order to steal the meat and profit from it. On 27 March [2020] Viorel Manu, Robert Iordan and Florin Nutu were jailed for their crimes.
Viorel Manu, Robert Iordan and Florin Nutu
Their conviction and sentencing brought justice for the farmers whose livelihoods were threatened.
It was made possible by rural communities rallying together, working with Northamptonshire Police on an operation that lasted several months and ended with the trio being caught red-handed.
Crucial intelligence from the public led officers to arrest the gang in the early hours of 7 October on the A14 near Welton, Lincolnshire. Blood-soaked butcher knives and the carcasses of nine sheep were found in the back of their van.
The men were found responsible for at least 12 recorded incidents of illegal sheep slaughtering in Northamptonshire.
“The offence we went for was conspiracy to commit theft as opposed to just theft itself. This means you’re looking at harder sentencing.”
A farmer in the Lutterworth area told LeicestershireLive at the height of the attacks: "It's horrendous. People are extremely angry and extremely worried. Thieves have stole livestock before, but these people are slaughtering sheep in the field, which is new. I assume they are hanging the animals up, slitting their throats and removing the meat. It's all very professional."
All three eventually pleaded guilty and were sentenced at Northampton Crown Court on 27 March. Iordan, 23, and Nutu, 36, were both jailed for four years and four months and Manu, 39, was ordered to serve two years and 11 months.
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Manu also had a Romanian barrister, Ioana Nedelcu (I haven't checked the others):
Romanians aren't usually Muslim but it sounds like they were killing the sheep in the Halal/Kosher manner.
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Isn't that a "Burglary gone right? "
I remember a case in the US where a guy literally set a trap for burglars and ended up shooting both of them (RIP) but he tape recorded the whole thing and getting sent to jail..... wish I could remember the guy's name.
At first blush, this doesn't look like that.
I remember a case in the US where a guy literally set a trap for burglars and ended up shooting both of them (RIP) but he tape recorded the whole thing and getting sent to jail..... wish I could remember the guy's name.
At first blush, this doesn't look like that.
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Maybe Byron SmithIsn't that a "Burglary gone right? "
I remember a case in the US where a guy literally set a trap for burglars and ended up shooting both of them (RIP) but he tape recorded the whole thing and getting sent to jail..... wish I could remember the guy's name.
At first blush, this doesn't look like that.
Man once recorded teens breaking into his house and killed both of them before waiting a day to call the cops
Byron Smith set up a hidden camera and waited with his gun drawn ahead of the break in by the two teens
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Thanks....saving me some memory cyclesMaybe Byron Smith
Man once recorded teens breaking into his house and killed both of them before waiting a day to call the cops
Byron Smith set up a hidden camera and waited with his gun drawn ahead of the break in by the two teenswww.unilad.com
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Damn, I can't believe he's still in jail. He deserves a medal too.Maybe Byron Smith
Man once recorded teens breaking into his house and killed both of them before waiting a day to call the cops
Byron Smith set up a hidden camera and waited with his gun drawn ahead of the break in by the two teens
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