Fair enough . . . thanks for clarifying how things work over there.
They upgraded gypsies to “people” over there? Very progressive!
I think you're referring to Joanne Dodd, who asked a man in a pub to guess her age (39), then flew into a rage when he said 43. As she was being aggressive, including a threat to glass, as you said, he went into the toilets, but when he came out she ran up and glassed him twice, leaving him needing stitches and now with a barely noticeable scar. She got 12 months, suspended for 12 months, 180 hours community service and had to pay £800 compensation. Of course if it had've been male on female the punisment would have been way more severe.
There was a case near where I live maybe ten? years ago where two burglars forced their way into a pensioner's house and he stabbed them - one died and one only had slight injuries. I think he went to trial and was found not guilty. If not then it never went to trial, either way it was judged lawful.
Imagine you live in an isolated farmhouse which is repeatedly burgled by Gypsies at night, (farm buildings and house) and every time you call the Police and report it but it just keeps happening. It would wind anyone up. By the way did you know there's no offence of 'burglary' in Scotland - the closest is 'theft by housebreaking'.
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They couldn’t find a pic where he looked like less of a twat apparentlyI think you're referring to Joanne Dodd, who asked a man in a pub to guess her age (39), then flew into a rage when he said 43. As she was being aggressive, including a threat to glass, as you said, he went into the toilets, but when he came out she ran up and glassed him twice, leaving him needing stitches and now with a barely noticeable scar. She got 12 months, suspended for 12 months, 180 hours community service and had to pay £800 compensation. Of course if it had've been male on female the punisment would have been way more severe.
There was a case near where I live maybe ten? years ago where two burglars forced their way into a pensioner's house and he stabbed them - one died and one only had slight injuries. I think he went to trial and was found not guilty. If not then it never went to trial, either way it was judged lawful.
Imagine you live in an isolated farmhouse which is repeatedly burgled by Gypsies at night, (farm buildings and house) and every time you call the Police and report it but it just keeps happening. It would wind anyone up. By the way did you know there's no offence of 'burglary' in Scotland - the closest is 'theft by housebreaking'.
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Update:
Pictured: 'Suspected burglar, 19, shot dead during alleged break
Locals named Marcus Smith, 19, as the man who died of fatal gunshot wounds during the incident in the Peak District early yesterday. He was found with fatal injuries inside the isolated property.www.dailymail.co.uk
First picture of teenager shot dead in 'burglary gone wrong'
The section of Eccles Road has been cordoned off and a murder investigation launched.Whaley Bridge: Farmer held over burglary shooting death
The man is being detained on suspicion of murder following the shooting, the BBC understands.www.bbc.co.uk
The dead alleged aggravated burglar is 19 year-old Marcus Smith
who played for local football team Chapel Town FC and went to the local school before that.
The injured man is also in his teens and the uninjured alleged burglar is in his 20s. The farmer is in his 50s.
The force said it was keeping an open mind about whether the incident was linked to a reported burglary at the property at about 3:30pm on Tuesday [they were called this time at 1:20am on Wednesday].
I think you're referring to Joanne Dodd, who asked a man in a pub to guess her age (39), then flew into a rage when he said 43. As she was being aggressive, including a threat to glass, as you said, he went into the toilets, but when he came out she ran up and glassed him twice, leaving him needing stitches and now with a barely noticeable scar. She got 12 months, suspended for 12 months, 180 hours community service and had to pay £800 compensation. Of course if it had've been male on female the punisment would have been way more severe.
There was a case near where I live maybe ten? years ago where two burglars forced their way into a pensioner's house and he stabbed them - one died and one only had slight injuries. I think he went to trial and was found not guilty. If not then it never went to trial, either way it was judged lawful.
Imagine you live in an isolated farmhouse which is repeatedly burgled by Gypsies at night, (farm buildings and house) and every time you call the Police and report it but it just keeps happening. It would wind anyone up. By the way did you know there's no offence of 'burglary' in Scotland - the closest is 'theft by housebreaking'.
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Update:
Pictured: 'Suspected burglar, 19, shot dead during alleged break
Locals named Marcus Smith, 19, as the man who died of fatal gunshot wounds during the incident in the Peak District early yesterday. He was found with fatal injuries inside the isolated property.First picture of teenager shot dead in 'burglary gone wrong'
The section of Eccles Road has been cordoned off and a murder investigation launched.Whaley Bridge: Farmer held over burglary shooting death
The man is being detained on suspicion of murder following the shooting, the BBC understands.www.bbc.co.uk
The dead alleged aggravated burglar is 19 year-old Marcus Smith
who played for local football team Chapel Town FC and went to the local school before that.
The injured man is also in his teens and the uninjured alleged burglar is in his 20s. The farmer is in his 50s.
The force said it was keeping an open mind about whether the incident was linked to a reported burglary at the property at about 3:30pm on Tuesday [they were called this time at 1:20am on Wednesday].
www.telegraph.co.uk
Update Two:
Pictured: Divorcee dairy farmer who was arrested over fatal shooting
Rob Lomas, 50, (pictured) is being questioned on suspicion of murder after Marcus Smith, 19, was discovered dead at his property on Mosley Hall Farm in Whaley Bridge, Derbyshire.Teenager shot dead during burglary as farmer is arrested on suspicion of murder
Two other people suspected of helping to carry out ‘targeted’ break-in in Peak District town also detained
The farmer is Rob Lomas, 50.
Locals today told MailOnline they were stunned by what happened, but said the area has a history of crime and the farm was particularly vulnerable because it was so isolated.
One woman said: "I was surprised when I found out Rob had been arrested. I wouldn't expect him be caught up in this sort of thing. He's not a violent type of person."
Another farmer told the Mail Mr Lomas had sold his dairy herd a few years ago and 'was looking forward to his retirement.'
"He must have been in fear of his life," the man said. "Why would he throw it all away to spend what is left of his life in prison? He must have been desperate to shoot someone. Rob was born and bred here. His dad lived there and his granddad lived there - but it was a much bigger farm then that has got smaller over the years. He sold his dairy herd off a while ago. I think he got a good price for them and was looking forward to retirement."
One neighbour said Mr Lomas was divorced but remained close to his children. "Rob was divorced a long time ago and has two or three children aged in their teens who live with their mother," he said. "He did have a girlfriend but I never saw her. I think it was a long distance romance. Nobody's perfect but he is just an average sort of person."
It is understood the farmer had moved back to the area recently.
It seems Mr Lomas is still in police custody, so the Police must have got the usual 24 hours they can hold someone extended to the maximum 96 (except for terrorism stuff, which is 14 days).
Six hours after detention was first authorised, the arrested person’s detention must be reviewed by a police officer of at least the rank of Inspector. Subsequent reviews are required no later than nine hours after the first review and then at intervals of no more than nine hours throughout the period of detention.
Assuming that reviews have been carried out and detention continues to be authorised, then before... 24 hours total time in custody, a police officer of at least the rank of Superintendent may authorise further detention... up to a maximum of 36 hours, still subject to reviews at intervals of no more than nine hours by an Inspector.
If the police still consider that detention is necessary after... the 36-hour point, a warrant of further detention must be sought from a magistrates’ court... If the court is satisfied by a police officer under oath that there are 'reasonable grounds for believing that the further detention of the person to whom the application relates is justified', then a warrant of further detention may be issued for a period of no more than 36 further hours.
