Fans need to get real (Jones)

Matt M said:
Partying shouldn't involve doing illegal drugs, particularly if you're a professional sportsman who is going to be regularly drug tested.

I'm not anti drug and I know it's cool to have a 'whatever' attitude when it comes to them, but i'm sort of above saying things just to try and appear cool.
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Not everyone, thank goodness, needs to live by your standards. Likewise, not everyone needs to put people down while making a point. Nothing I said was an attempt to be "cool". I'm an adult that couldn't care less about internet opinions of me. If anything, you were guilty of that, bub. Be civil or be gone.
 
Young Turkey said:
Doing coke is a victimless crime, assuming you do it by your own free will. Molesting a child that doesn't want to be molested is harmful to the child.

But yes the comparison of coke to combat sports is dumb but there is a difference when he tried taking it further
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UFC and MMA are the victims. They are trying to sell the brand, and big sponsors balk when the athletes representing the brand are less than professional.
 
xXx Irish xXx said:
Not everyone, thank goodness, needs to live by your standards. Likewise, not everyone needs to put people down while making a point. Nothing I said was an attempt to be "cool". I'm an adult that couldn't care less about internet opinions of me. If anything, you were guilty of that, bub. Be civil or be gone.
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What do you mean by living by my standards?
I haven't put anyone down, you'll need to elaborate so that you make sense.
 
Ely Slade said:
UFC and MMA are the victims. They are trying to sell the brand, and big sponsors balk when the athletes representing the brand are less than professional.
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I get that side too, but I think it's a moot point to the non-fans of MMA. They all view the sport and athletes as barbaric anyways. My mother-in-law sat and watched one with me and didn't stop criticizing how dumb they must have been to choose such a profession. Funniest thing about that night was it was the Franklin vs. Silva fight. She didn't have much to say when I got fed up and informed her Rich was actually an old high school teacher. Haha.
 
Matt M said:
What do you mean by living by my standards?
I haven't put anyone down, you'll need to elaborate so that you make sense.
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I don't need to elaborate on anything. We'll just stop talking to each other now. Cheers.
 
Young Turkey said:
Doing coke is a victimless crime, assuming you do it by your own free will. Molesting a child that doesn't want to be molested is harmful to the child.

But yes the comparison of coke to combat sports is dumb but there is a difference when he tried taking it further
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I wouldn't say victimless. Sure, no one likely gets harmed by the specific action of snorting it, but supporting the illegal drug trade where plenty of people get exploited or hurt is a part of it as well. That's the users responsibility, just as it is when you buy clothes made from child labor (although the action of paying for something in a store isn't a bad thing in itself).

As for the comparison, the whole point of what the poster said was to take a crime that people think much worse of (for good reason) to show that the reasoning used wasn't very accurate.
 
xXx Irish xXx said:
I get that side too, but I think it's a moot point to the non-fans of MMA. They all view the sport and athletes as barbaric anyways. My mother-in-law sat and watched one with me and didn't stop criticizing how dumb they must have been to choose such a profession. Funniest thing about that night was it was the Franklin vs. Silva fight. She didn't have much to say when I got fed up and informed her Rich was actually an old high school teacher. Haha.
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Telling her the LHW champ tested positive for cocaine, and got busted for dui wouldn't help convince her it is a civilized mainstream sport?
 
Everyone does drugs at some point its kinda a thing. At least he didn't mainline heroine. Well actually around the area he grew up i would not be surprised. Binghamton NY...all the drugs you want.
 
Fu** the UFC. They do enough things themselves that hurt there brand never mind what fighters do. At then end of the day Jon Jones is the champ, he turns up to his contract duties and he fights. Whatever he wants to do in his spare time is up to him. I reckon about 60-70% of people I know take cocaine when out drinking and socialising, and these people range from all sorts of jobs from Retail to The Army.
 
Ely Slade said:
Telling her the LHW champ tested positive for cocaine, and got busted for dui wouldn't help convince her it is a civilized mainstream sport?
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Name one sport that doesn't have these stories. It doesn't exist. Remember that football player that killed a few people? There's a few of those actually. Or the one that knocked out his fianc
 
You lost me when you claimed Jones was cool.
 
Masterman15 said:
And please don't say he's a role model. This is a sports where men knock each other into a bloody mess.
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Bruce Lee taught 100s of people how to fight and "beat other people into a bloody mess" ... yeah, he ain't a role model either, right?
 
Masterman15 said:
Fu** the UFC. They do enough things themselves that hurt there brand never mind what fighters do. At then end of the day Jon Jones is the champ, he turns up to his contract duties and he fights. Whatever he wants to do in his spare time is up to him. I reckon about 60-70% of people I know take cocaine when out drinking and socialising, and these people range from all sorts of jobs from Retail to The Army.
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We all have our own point of reference. I would recon about 99% of the people I know DON'T take cocaine. I left 1% in case there may be a user I don't know about. i guess we should all feel lucky you don't know child molesters, otherwise you might be defending that.
 
Ely Slade said:
We all have our own point of reference. I would recon about 99% of the people I know DON'T take cocaine. I left 1% in case there may be a user I don't know about. i guess we should all feel lucky you don't know child molesters, otherwise you might be defending that.
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Yeah because child molesters are the same as a drug user. What a fu **** idiot you are.
 
Masterman15 said:
Some fans need to get real with this Jon Jones situation. Okay Cocaine is illegal, but from a sports perspective he's done nothing wrong what's so ever. He's young, rich and cool and with the weight on being a ufc champion on his shoulders there's no surprise he goes out and party's hard. Stop being haters and embrace the champ people.
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Who is the fu **** idiot?!
 
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