Social Facebook is changing

[HomeCheese]

So Facebook is going to change and embrace a free speech platform. Like X. And the Sherdog War room of course.

Moving a branch to Texas, dropping fact checkers, working with Trump, and putting Dana the big red goof right on the board. Also ending censorship.

Basically the same things Elon did when he took over.

This will make it way easier to misinform of course. Let's go horse medicine! Who's dumb enough to get vaccinated! Am I right?

This will definitely help the large idiot class we have in this country. Let them get the real news now.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

The scams are nuts and they do not care at all. I work for a company that sells medical products that are sold at retail prices between 2,000 and 6,000 dollars. There are scams on Facebook advertising our products for $49.95 and $99.95. Weekly we get people calling us wanting to know where their products are. We have to tell them that it is a scam on Facebook and that they need to contact their bank or credit card company. We have contacted Facebook about it and they do not care. It is wild how people think they can get product worth 2,000 - 6,000 for 49.95 or 99.95.

That sucks and makes you look bad, even though it is not your fault.

Do you also get negative social media posts because of this? Other problems?

Takes up customer service time for sure.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

LOL at Sherdog being free speech.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

This will make it way easier to misinform of course. Let's go horse medicine! Who's dumb enough to get vaccinated! Am I right?

This will definitely help the large idiot class we have in this country. Let them get the real news now.

Do you think telling people how to think is better for them?

Who decides what the correct information is?

And don't you think this could be abused? What if the only thing allowed on Facebook is the greatness of Donald Trump or flat earth theory. Don't you think allowing both sides to voice an opinion is the best route? And let individuals form their own opinion?

Do you really think restricting free speech helps people?

 

[fedorthegoat777]

LOL at Sherdog being free speech.

To be fair, I think the mods to a good job here.

A few mods disagree with me or click on the laughing emoji a few times, but they usually let people say what they want.

People have discussed all kinds of issues, on both sides, it doesn't get taken down.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

To be fair, I think the mods to a good job here.

A few mods disagree with me or click on the laughing emoji a few times, but they usually let people say what they want.

People have discussed all kinds of issues, on both sides, it doesn't get taken down.

Last time i checked p3d0phil3 isn't a bad word, yet sherdog censors it. I rest my case.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Ohhhhh, the CT'er in me hopes this somehow aides in Trump's war to eradicate leftists. Exciting.

 

[RoastBeast]

You just admitted it was happening, you just tried to follow that up by excusing it.

The rise in white nationalist speech and CTs on Twitter is well documented by various researchers. I can read their research—and do my own—on a thing called “the internet.”
I don’t need a Twitter account. Musk is threatening to sue those researchers. I just linked you to a source on that.

It’s laughable to call it a free speech platform when Musk has repeatedly banned journalists he doesn’t like, or banned or throttled links to competitors like Substack and Instagram.
It’s rapidly becoming a disinformation and hate speech platform—which of course, suits conservatives just fine. Your biggest complaint about the Dorsey era of Twitter was that your bullshit CTs and white nationalist nonsense wasn’t tolerated.

Twitter is no free speech haven under Elon Musk

For all the talk of Twitter being a digital town square, it is ultimately more like Elon Musk’s house party.

www.thefire.org

From Twitter to X, Elon Musk’s transformation from free speech defender to champion of disinformation

Since becoming Twitter’s official owner on 27 October 2022, self-proclaimed free-speech defender Elon Musk has transformed the social media now called X into a sanctuary for disinformation. Reporters Without Borders (RSF) now regards X as the embodiment of the threat that online platforms pose...

rsf.org

You're advocating against freer speech because your got your marching orders from the media that Elon is a bad man and you need to pretend like Twitter is a wasteland of filth now that he took over.

He's not perfect and I certainly don't condone a lot of the decisions he's made but the platform sure as hell censors way less than it ever did in the past and that's a good thing.

I don't recall you up in arms when conservatives were being censored. Wonder why that is?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

You just admitted it was happening, you just tried to follow that up by excusing it.

The rise in white nationalist speech and CTs on Twitter is well documented by various researchers. I can read their research—and do my own—on a thing called “the internet.”
I don’t need a Twitter account. Musk is threatening to sue those researchers. I just linked you to a source on that.

It’s laughable to call it a free speech platform when Musk has repeatedly banned journalists he doesn’t like, or banned or throttled links to competitors like Substack and Instagram.
It’s rapidly becoming a disinformation and hate speech platform—which of course, suits conservatives just fine. Your biggest complaint about the Dorsey era of Twitter was that your bullshit CTs and white nationalist nonsense wasn’t tolerated.

Twitter is no free speech haven under Elon Musk

For all the talk of Twitter being a digital town square, it is ultimately more like Elon Musk’s house party.

www.thefire.org

From Twitter to X, Elon Musk’s transformation from free speech defender to champion of disinformation

Since becoming Twitter’s official owner on 27 October 2022, self-proclaimed free-speech defender Elon Musk has transformed the social media now called X into a sanctuary for disinformation. Reporters Without Borders (RSF) now regards X as the embodiment of the threat that online platforms pose...

rsf.org

mate, honest question. you think all this dramatic tone about the "rise of white supremacy" being everywhere is doing the left any good? it just sounds cooky as hell.

and i have a twitter that i use everyday and i swear the only time i hear about this supposed avalanche of gore, hate speech and "white supremacy" is when leftists talk about it, cause i ain't seeing shit like that in real life. and i don't give a shit about some panicked manufactured study done either by the current government that hates musk and has zero credibility doing studies against twitter, or some NGO that's getting funding through pushing ever encroaching threats. it's super transparent what's going on.

you guys really should disconnect from the central hub of outrage and walk the world a bit. seriously, cause a lot of you sound cut off from the real world and delving deeper into a ever-darkening pit of january 6s and white supremacies everywhere and hate speech and whatnot.

things happen and will happen in the world that you won't like. yelling racism or whatever other ism at everything will just drive regular people away. you saw what happened during the last elections. can't you draw some conclusions from that? people HATED the leftist position, the hypocritical yelly authoritarian cancel ready snarky ivory tower vibe of it. it was not only rebuked, if was devastatingly shit on, dismissed as you would a childish tantrum. the world CANNOT be 100% as you want it. you have to learn to live with different opinions that aren't automatically Hitler just because you don't like them.

and you also have to learn to LISTEN, not automatically go for the smarty pants clap back.

 

[WhiteMousse]

But I don't even have a bookface

 

[KaNesDeath]

Expected from Zuckerberg. He's playing ball in hopes that Trump lifts his acquisition embargo.

 

[Cajun]

My spidey senses were tingling when I saw all these billionaire Oligarchs buying media platforms.
Right now billionaires own all the media, and media is controlled by corporations. The stories they chose to address are very predictable, stories that should be covered get a blip.
The fact our Supreme Court is bought should bother people, but they discovered even more trips Justice Thomas decided not to declare and the media does not even bother to address the obvious conflict. The US government sold themselves out to the highest bidder and now those bidders control all the information. The middle class is fucked. I am not saying tax the shit out of the Elite, but now the game is tilted way to their advantage, and they are making sure they can change the rules any damn time they want.
Sorry if I dont trust a word Zuckerburg says. I don't worship dudes because they are billionaires.

When the Supreme Court got rid of the fairness doctrine in the early 80s the corporate media has become a free for all where there are more opinions than fact and no counterpoint. Who owns or runs it has always been a thing imo. Not much you can do about that.

Social media is a little different but some idiots get their news from such. It is strange Zuckerberg seems to have done a 180. I'm good with some of these things especially govt censoring stuff on these sites. But I never found fb did much about some of the things they let go. They haven't even sensored some of those animal videos where a chained monkey is next to a cobra that bites it etc. I report it and fb just says no violation. I rarely get on social media except to watch fb videos but I'm def for less political regulation.

 

[sickc0d3r]

He's not perfect and I certainly don't condone a lot of the decisions he's made but the platform sure as hell censors way less than it ever did in the past and that's a good thing.

Sorry for jumping in again, but this is apparently not true at all.

As you can see in this listing, hateful content, abuse and harassment, and violent content were the main reasons for removals, as they’ve traditionally been in X/Twitter’s reports.

In total, X reports that it suspended 5.2 million accounts in the first half of this year based on rule violations, and removed 10.7 million posts due to the same.

Which is more than what Twitter reported in its last published transparency report, which covered the first half of 2022.



Back then, Twitter’s team (pre-Elon) enforced the removal of 6.6 million posts, and took action against 5 million accounts, though Twitter did note that it suspended only 1.6 million accounts for violations, which is a lot fewer than what X has undertaken recently.

In the first half of 2021, Twitter reported that it had removed 5.9 million tweets, and took action against 4.8 million accounts. It suspended 1.2 million of those profiles.

So on balance, X is removing a lot more content, and suspending more accounts, despite its new, more open moderation policies.

That’s likely reflective of a broader reliance on automation, due to fewer staff, which now sees X taking a more binary view of violations. So accounts that would once have been asked to remove content are now being suspended more readily.

With that in mind, the accounts actioned and suspensions are actually very close, with X removing almost double as much content as Twitter had been for violations.

 

[lsa]

Last time i checked p3d0phil3 isn't a bad word, yet sherdog censors it. I rest my case.

Sherdog have never claimed to be free speech...
Its a private own site so free speech does not apply here.
This is not news

 

[Ballsaque]

So Facebook is going to change and embrace a free speech platform. Like X. And the Sherdog War room of course.

Moving a branch to Texas, dropping fact checkers, working with Trump, and putting Dana the big red goof right on the board. Also ending censorship.

Basically the same things Elon did when he took over.

They are getting real desperate.

First the fucking admision of adding bots (AI influencers) to the platform, the roll back, and now this pandering?

 

[RoastBeast]

Sorry for jumping in again, but this is apparently not true at all.

It looks a lot more open to me. Do we know if these numbers are being cooked by bots?

"Hate speech" is such a broad term and we don't all agree on what is hate speech and what is not. Using the correct pronoun is considered hate speech to some people. Using the N word is hate speech to most people. One is a racial term and the other is biologically correct, yet they were both lumped under hate speech when the left wingers had control.

 

[Snubnoze707]

The NeoLIberal World Order is collapsing, thankfully.

 

[sickc0d3r]

It looks a lot more open to me. Do we know if these numbers are being cooked by bots?

"Hate speech" is such a broad term and we don't all agree on what is hate speech and what is not. Using the correct pronoun is considered hate speech to some people. Using the N word is hate speech to most people. One is a racial term and the other is biologically correct, yet they were both lumped under hate speech when the left wingers had control.

No idea about bots. I assume there are a lot more of them than before. The enforcement actions against "Hateful Conduct" comes from their own released transparency report, so it's however X is defining it.

I suppose it is more open because people are free to make shit up and stir controversy or whatever. If it drives engagement, it's good. But if it hurts revenue, or is critical of Elon or his business, it's bad. And I am fine with that, by the way. This is just the business model, it's not about free speech.

 

[USA!USA!]

It looks a lot more open to me. Do we know if these numbers are being cooked by bots?

"Hate speech" is such a broad term and we don't all agree on what is hate speech and what is not. Using the correct pronoun is considered hate speech to some people. Using the N word is hate speech to most people. One is a racial term and the other is biologically correct, yet they were both lumped under hate speech when the left wingers had control.

I report a fair amount of bigoted posts I see on X. Those are pretty much the only kind I report. I honestly don't care if people are rude, but to blatantly disparage a group of people is too far for me.

For example, I recently reported someone for saying all gay men only want to adopt kids to rape them because they are sick and twisted fucks. Pretty much word for word that is what they wrote.

I was told that they did not break any rules.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Good, put the nail in that goofy coffin.



Also..... it is hilarious that "Fact Checking" is considered "far left" behavior.
It couldn't be more obvious that one side deals in fantasy and the other in truth.