F You I Aint Tapping

[CobraCobretti]

 

[Reapzz]

Jones roided his way out of that sub. It made no sense. Same way DC clinched him up against the cage but couldn’t do anything because of the serum running through JJ’s veins

This.....I know Jones was a beast regardless, but the way he was blatantly cycling peds even against smaller, older guys, leaves multiple asterisks by his name. Vitor and other guys get talked about for using peds when young, and for being on them legally when older(trt). Somehow Jones gets a pass from his weird fans and called "goat", even though he was clearly on peds and even failed tests for them multiple times...smh.

 

[The Clark]

Nogueira against Barnett in their first fight. I believe Barnett had Nog in a knee bar, and Nog was screaming in pain. Barnett said he thought it should have been a verbal submission.

 

[Marko Polo]

This.....I know Jones was a beast regardless, but the way he was blatantly cycling peds even against smaller, older guys, leaves multiple asterisks by his name. Vitor and other guys get talked about for using peds when young, and for being on them legally when older(trt). Somehow Jones gets a pass from his weird fans and called "goat", even though he was clearly on peds and even failed tests for them multiple times...smh.

It’s not like Jones was some incredibly decorated wrestler either, he has an average college record that never gets mentioned, unlike DC who is a former Olympian. It’s like Merab getting O’Malley up against the cage and not being able to anything. I never rated the guy, as soon as they forced him to close his hands and stopped him eye poking to maintain range he’s looked bang average

 

[RockyLockridge]

Esparza escaping Grasso's armbar.

Women are made of rubber.

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

Think about this...

Many taps were due to fear only.

The submissions weren't actually going to severely hurt them and they tapped at a possibility, not an actual legitimate threat.

Ouch.

 

[GoodBadHBK]

Alan Belcher vs Palhares

With Joe Rogan cheering/coaching Alan on the sideline lol

 

[Lawrence]

Im rewatching the Frye/Shamrock fight in PRIDE where Don was caught in multiple heel hooks/knee bars/toe holds where he refused to tap out! Can you name another fight where the guy who won was caught in tight submissions but refused to tap out?

The only one I can think of recently was Volk vs Ortega. Before that Jones/Belfort.

I don’t think anyone has given his neck to more BJJ black belts without ever being submitted in the cage than Uriah Faber.

He operated like he gave no fucks and really only had a couple situations that might be judged as close calls.

 

[jeff7b9]

Tyson Griffin beat RDA after being caught in a nasty calf slicer.

Calf slicers freak me out.

The idea of your knee being forcefully pried apart gives me the heebie jeebies

 

[BangBang]

Ferguson Olives IIRC.

Pena Vs Harrison (oops wrong!).

 

[shunyata]

Alan Belcher vs Palhares

I don't think that's a good example for what this thread was aimed at.

Alan trained a ton of leglock defense leading up to that fight and he wasn't just ignoring locked up submissions he was using proper jiu jitsu defense to deny the leglocks and prevent Palhares from being able to get to where he needed to be to finish.

It was totally different from the Don Frye "f you" response.

 

[JKS]

Barnett vs Noguiera 1 in the OWGP 2006. Both guys we're in tight subs and didnt tap

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Think about this...

Many taps were due to fear only.

The submissions weren't actually going to severely hurt them and they tapped at a possibility, not an actual legitimate threat.

Well the legitimate threat is what happens if you don't tap.

 

[Harlekin]

Esparza escaping Grasso's armbar.

A lot of "crazy" submission attempts have to be in WMMA. Their ligaments bend like 40° further.
A lot of women can bend their arms daily to a point at which mine would never be again usable.
No muscle on it though.

 

[Plissken]

Don admitted he got painkillers injected down there prior to the fight if I recall correctly.

 

[sanguinius]

It’s not like Jones was some incredibly decorated wrestler either, he has an average college record that never gets mentioned, unlike DC who is a former Olympian. It’s like Merab getting O’Malley up against the cage and not being able to anything. I never rated the guy, as soon as they forced him to close his hands and stopped him eye poking to maintain range he’s looked bang average

bang average meaning going 7-0 in title fights since the change and getting and defending the belt of the weightclass above his natural one?

If 7-0 in ufc title fights doesn't impress you, then you must just sneer at all the peasant fighters without a single title fight win.