Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

[Koro_11]

Look at you feeling tough cursing with exclamation marks over movies.

You're the unhinged media obsessed dickhead that you're complaining about and you're too insecure to see it.

And this is ALL online, you have never spoken to any grown, able bodied man in person like you're doing here.


FAKE TOUGH GUY

Nice projection, as usual, you’re living in a rainbow unicorn fantasy, and reality would smack you upside the head worse than a second Trump term.

 

[Krimzon]

democrats need to lean away from transgenderism and abortion lest it tank the entire ship. I did not expect it, but 2024 was a big time rebuke by the whole country against the whole thing

they need to reverse course, not double down

 

[HenryFlower]

Is it? What is the woke score on the woke-o-meter?

no clue

Comparatively, let's look at box office bombs this year. Collider curated a list of a Top 10:

The 10 Biggest Box Office Bombs of 2024, Ranked

We rank the biggest box office bombs of 2024, from The Fall Guy to Borderlands.

collider.com

1. Joker: Folie a Deux
2. Madame Web
3. The Crow
4. Megalopolis
5. Argylle
6. The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare
7. Fly Me to the Moon
8. The Fall Guy
9. Mad Max: Furiosa
10. Borderlands

Only #4, #6, #7, and #8 didn't receive some form of backlash against perceived woke content from what I read this year.

i only recall any actual “woke trash” discourse for Joker & Furiosa (the box office failure of the latter being a complete mystery to me, honestly. it’s a total indictment of american audiences imo). i don’t recall literally any discussion whatsoever about The Crow, Argylle, or Borderlands, & i’m not sure people even really bothered to give them more than two seconds of their time thinking about them

 

[Madmick]

no clue

Then how do you know it was rated "woke"? If you can see that rating, then you can see the woke-o-meter.

If it isn't 55% woke or more, then it isn't rated as "woke", technically, by the website. If you cannot substantiate that it is, then your assertion is refuted.

 

[HenryFlower]

Then how do you know it was rated "woke"? If you can see that rating, then you can see the woke-o-meter.

If it isn't 55% woke or more, then it isn't rated as "woke", technically, by the website. If you cannot substantiate that it is, then your assertion is refuted.

there was some way to get to a list view of recent releases rated woke, but if you wanna try telling me that the anti-woke mob doesn’t consider a movie w/ accepting & celebrating different cultures as a core theme to be woke, then i have a bridge to sell you

 

[Madmick]

there was some way to get to a list view of recent releases rated woke, but if you wanna try telling me that the anti-woke mob doesn’t consider a movie w/ accepting & celebrating different cultures as a core theme to be woke, then i have a bridge to sell you

So you fabricated the claim.

Concession accepted.

 

[HenryFlower]

So you fabricated the claim.

Concession accepted.

concession accepted.

 

[Madmick]

concession accepted.

But now I'm confused. You just insisted that you don't recall any woke pushback to these major flops, but these films also carry the "woke" tag:

i only recall any actual “woke trash” discourse for Joker & Furiosa (the box office failure of the latter being a complete mystery to me, honestly. it’s a total indictment of american audiences imo). i don’t recall literally any discussion whatsoever about The Crow, Argylle, or Borderlands, & i’m not sure people even really bothered to give them more than two seconds of their time thinking about them

This film carries that "woke" tag if you only look at filtering tags for the website. Furthermore, so does Megalopolis.

• Borderlands

So why are you cherry picking what you deem to be a reference for wokeism based on box office performance? It couldn't be that you're full of shit, could it?

 

[HenryFlower]

But now I'm confused. You just insisted that you don't recall any woke pushback to these major flops, but these films also carry the "woke" tag:

that literally doesn’t make anything about what i said less true. great trap!

Both of these films carry that "woke" tag if you only look at filtering tags for the website. Furthermore, so does Megalopolis.

• Joker: Folie a Deux
• Borderlands

So why are you cherry picking what you deem to be a reference for wokeism based on box office performance? It couldn't be that you're full of shit, could it?

dude, what? i think you need to read what i wrote again. if i wasn’t clear, lmk, & i’ll happily rephrase it for you using bullet points.

 

[Madmick]

that literally doesn’t make anything about what i said less true. great trap!

dude, what? i think you need to read what i wrote again. if i wasn’t clear, lmk, & i’ll happily rephrase it for you using bullet points.

I just want you to be consistent. You said 2 of the Top 5 grossing films were woke. You used this website as a reference.

What is the other woke film in the Top 5? Because according to that website: Inside Out 2 (5%), Deadpool & Wolverine (10%), Despicable Me 4 (0%), and Dune: Part 2 (23%) are not woke. For that matter, even Wicked is not yet showing up with that filter, and the movie is reviewed.

Quite simply, the frequency of woke films in the biggest busts of the year far outpaces those that are highly successful.

 

[HenryFlower]

I just want you to be consistent. You said 2 of the Top 5 grossing films were woke. You used this website as a reference.

What is the other woke film in the Top 5? Because according to that website: Inside Out 2 (5%), Deadpool & Wolverine (10%), Despicable Me 4 (0%), and Dune: Part 2 (23%) are not woke. For that matter, even Wicked is not yet showing up with that filter, and the movie is reviewed.

Quite simply, the frequency of woke films in the biggest busts of the year far outpaces those that are highly successful.

how am i not being consistent? i’ve always maintained that the “go woke go broke” is a stupid logical fallacy, because it is. it’s become the most absurd rallying cry for the culture war dorks. it’s become impossible for them to enjoy anything w/o looking at it through the prism of lolwoke & it’s become more & more desperate as it becomes apparent the legitimacy of “go woke go broke” has never existed in the first place. so like, what is the point you are even trying to make? that some “woke” movies will flop even if some “woke” movies crush at the box office? no shit, exactly.

i already named the two movies so idk why you are wasting both our time asking that

 

[HenryFlower]

but who knows, maybe “go woke sometimes go broke” will eventually catch on

 

[Madmick]

how am i not being consistent? i’ve always maintained that the “go woke go broke” is a stupid logical fallacy, because it is. like, what is the point you are even trying to make? that some “woke” movies will flop even if some “woke” movies crush at the box office? no shit, exactly.

i already named the two movies so idk why you are wasting both our time asking that

LOL, the false equivocation. "Some" and "some". By "some" woke movies flop, you mean, they compose most of the biggest flops of the year while being a slim minority of overall films. And by "some" woke movies crush it, you mean...one. Just one this year.

Outliers are the exceptions that prove the rule. The rule is irrefutable after 10 years of data gathering. Go woke, go broke.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

As a long time subscriber of Gundam, I stopped watching regularly because it depresses the shit out of me. Also, pre-Musk Twitter/X was wild. I might make a twitter account with username Space Buns.

 

[SuperAlly]

So films that present men as men and women as women should be on average successful at the box office, by your logic.

Now provide the numbers to back that up.

I'm sorry but I don't trust your self imposed sense of intellectualism as a reliable source, you're going to need to do better.

Found Falcon's sherdog log in

That show was probably a win for wokeness according to these guys/gals/hims/hers too

 

[SuperAlly]

but if you wanna try telling me that the anti-woke mob doesn’t consider a movie w/ accepting & celebrating different cultures as a core theme to be woke, then i have a bridge to sell you

This is a falsehood

 

[SuperAlly]

But now I'm confused. You just insisted that you don't recall any woke pushback to these major flops, but these films also carry the "woke" tag:

This film carries that "woke" tag if you only look at filtering tags for the website. Furthermore, so does Megalopolis.

• Borderlands

So why are you cherry picking what you deem to be a reference for wokeism based on box office performance? It couldn't be that you're full of shit, could it?

Well this is awkward

Veneer of honest debate totally destroyed

 

[SuperAlly]

I just want you to be consistent. You said 2 of the Top 5 grossing films were woke. You used this website as a reference.

What is the other woke film in the Top 5? Because according to that website: Inside Out 2 (5%), Deadpool & Wolverine (10%), Despicable Me 4 (0%), and Dune: Part 2 (23%) are not woke. For that matter, even Wicked is not yet showing up with that filter, and the movie is reviewed.

Quite simply, the frequency of woke films in the biggest busts of the year far outpaces those that are highly successful.

Henryflower had his ass handed to him there and no doubt will deny it

 

[SuperAlly]

how am i not being consistent? i’ve always maintained that the “go woke go broke” is a stupid logical fallacy, because it is. it’s become the most absurd rallying cry for the culture war dorks. it’s become impossible for them to enjoy anything w/o looking at it through the prism of lolwoke & it’s become more & more desperate as it becomes apparent the legitimacy of “go woke go broke” has never existed in the first place. so like, what is the point you are even trying to make? that some “woke” movies will flop even if some “woke” movies crush at the box office? no shit, exactly.

i already named the two movies so idk why you are wasting both our time asking that

Ratio of those that flop that don't

And those that escape flop is usually due to some cultural phenomenon like Barbie, and not a ratification of woke ideals in entertainment being a successful strategy

 

[SuperAlly]

but who knows, maybe “go woke sometimes go broke” will eventually catch on

Wow.

Just wow.

We've actually circled back to the autistic defence/denial argument from earlier in the thread.

Embarrassing stuff.