Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

[SuperAlly]

It matches a bunch of media surrounding Yasuke that Japan has produced before. They apparently love them some Yasuke

Really?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Really?

Oh yeah, there was that Netflix Yasuke anime that MAPPA animated. He appears in almost any manga about Nobunaga. He was in a couple of video games before this too. And yeah, often he is dicing up Japanese people. It's weird but hey, they like what they like I guess

 

[SuperAlly]

Oh yeah, there was that Netflix Yasuke anime that MAPPA animated. He appears in almost any manga about Nobunaga. He was in a couple of video games before this too. And yeah, often he is dicing up Japanese people. It's weird but hey, they like what they like I guess

So you didn't see the news about the backlash in Japan regarding this?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

So you didn't see the news about the backlash in Japan regarding this?

I ignore most "outrage" articles because they're largely click bait. In a quick search I see some mixed reactions. Most of the issues taken seem to be about factors OUTSIDE of Yasuke.

 

[Taima]

The real problem is the maga traitors among us. Maga sullies the soil and poisons the blood of America. They are the enemy within and must be exised and eliminated from the nation.

 

[Mr Holmes]

The real problem is the maga traitors among us. Maga sullies the soil and poisons the blood of America. They are the enemy within and must be exised and eliminated from the nation.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Made an alt back in August and this is his coming out post. Intardesting strategy, cotton. Let’s see how this plays out

 

[AWilder]

Ok but I still maintain it's tone deaf having a black guy be the main protagonist in feudal Japan killing a bunch of Japanese people. With a backdrop of hip hop music to boot.

It's certainly a choice. There's also been quite a few very successful and popular games taking place in Japan that have Japanese protagonists so maybe they want to make some different choices and not appear so similar.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Oh yeah, there was that Netflix Yasuke anime that MAPPA animated. He appears in almost any manga about Nobunaga. He was in a couple of video games before this too. And yeah, often he is dicing up Japanese people. It's weird but hey, they like what they like I guess

Netlfix is probably trying to appeal to a more global audience including Americans. He was in for like 30 seconds in this movie and that was it.

The Legend & Butterfly - AsianWiki

asianwiki.com

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Netlfix is probably trying to appeal to a more global audience including Americans. He was in for like 30 seconds in this movie and that was it.

The Legend & Butterfly - AsianWiki

asianwiki.com

Yasuke is in a bunch of Manga, some shows, a couple video games, some plays, etc. He's fairly well represented in Japan

 

[panamaican]

Really?

Yeah. The general complaint most content creators have regarding the samurai era of Japan is that it's been done to death. Samurai, ninja, Nobunaga, Tokugawa, etc. Tons of games, anime, tv shows, etc. lean into these themes.

Yasuke allows them to tell the same type of story, set in the same era, from a somewhat different angle.

 

[panamaican]

Netlfix is probably trying to appeal to a more global audience including Americans. He was in for like 30 seconds in this movie and that was it.

The Legend & Butterfly - AsianWiki

asianwiki.com

There's a Japanese children's book from the late 1960's about him. It won a Japanese prize for children's books.

People who are complaining about his presence in this game really have no idea how long this individual has been presented positively in Japanese culture. I wish people who dislike it would just not buy it rather than try to elevate it into something that completely disregards the long history of the character's presence in Japanese media.

 

[Blayt7hh]

So you didn't see the news about the backlash in Japan regarding this?

What he’s saying is true and you can fact check that yourself. I regular consume samurai movies and video games and I knew who Yasuke was before Ass Creed because of that. There was no controversy about him or his status in history before this game.

It’s kind of an annoying outrage topic to witness happening. Yes Ass Creed probably chose him because their game is ass and they needed a way to spice it up. Because of that we are getting this “Yasuke was not a samurai” outrage articles. It’s annoying because he’s been around in other games that were not creatively bankrupt, so no one gave it a second thought.

 

[Helden]

Speaking of grift

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Speaking of grift

Get some antiparasitic drugs on sale, too, they're about as much use as those amulets!

 

[Deleted member 592570]

I ignore most "outrage" articles because they're largely click bait. In a quick search I see some mixed reactions. Most of the issues taken seem to be about factors OUTSIDE of Yasuke.

So why are you in this thread then?

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

So why are you in this thread then?

Same reason I'm in any sherdog thread, to remind myself how stupid and divisive people can be over literally nothing.

That and boredom.

 

[SuperAlly]

It’s easy to find out what Japanese people are actually saying, rather than speaking for them and/or blaming any complaints on western “grifters”

Japanese Players Excoriate Ubisoft After They Apologize For Creating "Concern Within The Japanese Community" With 'Assassin's Creed Shadows'

Japanese gamers are not happy with Ubisoft and its recent statement apologizing for "creating concern with the Japanese community" with Assassin's Creed Shadows.

thatparkplace.com

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

There's a Japanese children's book from the late 1960's about him. It won a Japanese prize for children's books.

People who are complaining about his presence in this game really have no idea how long this individual has been presented positively in Japanese culture. I wish people who dislike it would just not buy it rather than try to elevate it into something that completely disregards the long history of the character's presence in Japanese media.

I was speculating about prestige, i wanna check out they animated Nflix Yasuke at some point, it's not like it is meant to be historically accurate.

You can theoretically have an ok selling indie comic book about gangsta Abraham Lincoln and have people be upset if a Japanese company makes a movie or tv series portraying him that way if it has a history of treating American characters badly.

 

[panamaican]

I was speculating about prestige, i wanna check out they animated Nflix Yasuke at some point, it's not like it is meant to be historically accurate.

You can theoretically have an ok selling indie comic book about gangsta Abraham Lincoln and have people be upset if a Japanese company makes a movie or tv series portraying him that way if it has a history of treating American characters badly.

If the complaint was that Assassin's Creed treats Japanese characters badly or something similar, that would a completely different discussion than the one that rose up around this instance. (BTW I watched Yasuke on Netflix, good but not memorable. But most of Netflix's anime aren't memorable so...)

The majority of the complaints that I've read complain about them forcing diversity into the series by sticking a black samurai into the narrative instead of a Japanese character (while ignoring that the black samurai is only half of the main protaganist story and a Japanese character is the other half...but that's another conversation).

The complaints were about forced diversity and an insistence that the black character shouldn't be portrayed as positively as a "samurai". Which is absurd to me because of the long history this specific real life individual has in both Japanese and American media portrayals. He's almost always portrayed as a well regarded member of Nobunaga's retinue, not a curiosity or a pet.

This wasn't forced diversity. It's a well trodden road, regarding Yasuke. Probably the most insane thing about this to me is that it was a bunch of predominantly white Americans complaining about the portrayal of a black character in a video game set in feudal Japan. The people who were most outraged were the people least connected to the story itself.

I might have been more sympathetic if the complaints originated in Japan but they didn't. The Japanese didn't care until the American bleatings reached their ears. And this outpouring of faux outrage from the US into other countries is exactly why places like Australia shouldn't grant Candace Owens a visa, lol.