Evolution will no longer be taught in Turkish schools

You can still be a Christian and believe in Evolution.
 
MicroBrew said:
The entire sentence " They are brushing a theory under the table...not science itself. It's not real anyway."

I am confused as to what you are saying here.
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The Theory of Evolution is an unproven scientific theory...not Science itself. Rejecting an unproven scientific theory =/= rejecting Science.

The Theory of (macro) Evolution is false anyhow.
 
TheComebackKid said:
The Theory of Evolution is an unproven scientific theory...not Science itself. Rejecting an unproven scientific theory =/= rejecting Science.

The Theory of (macro) Evolution is false anyhow.
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Can you provide me some resources on the Theory of Macro Evolution?

How is this not you just making shit up?
 
Fawlty said:
What a short sighted and defeated attitude. Long term that can only mean less critical thinking, more reliance on dogma for truth. You're cheering for regression, and that means cheering for radicalization. Sad Vomit!

This is why you're kind of an enigma and you get a lot of customers for your admittedly good, trolling form of dry satire. It's because you actually are fucked on a number of issues, like this one, so that throws people off.
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I've already given answers to this though.
You might not agree but I've addressed those claims a few posts after what you quoted:

lecter said:
I'm aware of the fact that many people think like this, I simply disagree.
There's a point when you notice a certain nation simply won't be a modern Western society or an equivalent thereof with similar values but different culture.
It's just not going to happen in the near future. And a well-educated and capable society doesn't guarantee decency or rejection of radical ideas at all.
Germany was neither uneducated nor unfamiliar with the idea of a Democracy when Hitler took over.
So at this point, it's in your best interest that a nation like this simply doesn't become too powerful.
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lecter said:
I'd call it pessimism. I don't believe Turkey will be a decent, secular nation anytime soon, no matter what happens.
The situation will become worse and they'll drift away from Europe and possibly from NATO.
Therefore I rather have a radical, uneducated nation with a troubling economy in this position than a radical, powerful, prosperous nation which is home to the world's top performers in science, engineering etc
The liberal point of view that those two things are incompatible, that the right ideas, science and some sort of enlightenment will combat authoritarianism and radicalism is wishful thinking and disproven by history.
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So at least address those.
 
ShadBo said:
TCK doesn't believe in 'macro' evolution, but believes that there were a few thousand species on Noah's Ark that went through some super mega evolution that produced all the species we have today.

Creationists. :rolleyes:
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No one has ever seen macro evolution, because it doesn't exist. Also Noah's ark was found in Turkey.

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ripskater said:
Micro or macro evolution?
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Been a while since I have read a bible, but I was always, taught, you only need one thing to be a Christian and that is faith in Jesus.
Like I said, its has been a while, but can you point out the verse that states as a Christian, I can not believe in Evolution.
 
TheComebackKid said:
Blah blah blah...here is the definition for the millionth and one time...

You ready?

Here it comes...

"Kinds" are two organisms that share a common ancestor.

Now...i have defined it for you very clearly...AGAIN. Yet something tells me you'll continue to ask for a definition.
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You've never stated that to me. Go back and read our discussions if you don't believe me.

But thanks, that dim-witted term now confirms that you were wrong in our first long discussion as that refutes some statements you made.

It would have been more fun if your term has any worth though, as then you could have gone on to tackle the phylogeny challenge that ShadBo mentioned. As it is I understand why you didn't answer him on that.
 
44nutman said:
Been a while since I have read a bible, but I was always, taught, you only need one thing to be a Christian and that is faith in Jesus.
Like I said, its has been a while, but can you point out the verse that states as a Christian, I can not believe in Evolution.
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If you have read the Bible, it is clear that macro evolution is not compatible with God the Creator. The 2nd Commandment You shall have no graven images or likenesses. In other words, Don't create a God in your own mind to suit yourself. Hope this helps man. God Bless.
 
Squarechoke said:
You've never stated that to me. Go back and read our discussions if you don't believe me.

But thanks, that dim-witted term now confirms that you were wrong in our first long discussion as that refutes some statements you made.

It would have been more fun if your term has any worth though, as then you could have gone on to tackle the phylogeny challenge that ShadBo mentioned. As it is I understand why you didn't answer him on that.
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I have to given you that definition. And you'll have to explain how you think that makes me wrong.
 
Jim Bob said:
If you have read the Bible, it is clear that macro evolution is not compatible with God the Creator. The 2nd Commandment You shall have no graven images or likenesses. In other words, Don't create a God in your own mind to suit yourself. Hope this helps man. God Bless.
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So God did not create the animals that evolved?
 
Jim Bob said:
If you have read the Bible, it is clear that macro evolution is not compatible with God the Creator. The 2nd Commandment You shall have no graven images or likenesses. In other words, Don't create a God in your own mind to suit yourself. Hope this helps man. God Bless.
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People would disagree there, as even back in the 19:th century you had creationists that accepted "macro evolution".
 
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