Evolution of MMA is more hype...

[1pedestrian]

Yeah because Tito Ortiz and Royce Gracie was peak fighting

Prime Tito Ortiz would still be elite today.

 

[Kertol]

I disagree, Usman has one of the best jabs since...well GSP. And he has a lot power in his hands too. Usman's striking might not be as polished as say, Israel Adesanya, or Wonderboy, but it's very effective. As we saw in the Covington and Burns fights.

Usman’s striking is garbage and same for the guys that he fought. They have no defense whatsoever no head movement nothing. It’s not any better than the last generation of fighters

 

[ejlarson249]

Evolution of MMA is more hype than reality.

Hype and rule changes have you believing the opposite of what has actually happened... fighters haven't evolved, fights have evolved into sport. The rules used to be simple, no gloves, no rules just use your discipline to kick the other guy's ass. Now? Use a cup, if you just graze the cup you get 5 minutes, no finger or digit manipulation, no eye, throat or spine/back of the head strikes, no kicking a downed opponet in the head, you have to wear gloves, you get to rest between rounds, yes, there are now rounds and, most of all, WEIGHT CLASSES.

We see a lot more "talent" in today's fight game only because the rules and regulations, mentioned above, allow more people to participate. With no weightclasses how many Aldos, Demetrious Johnsons, McGregors, GSPs and jon joneses would you see? Hell, even the 265lb cap limits what is truly out there.

We can't complain too much because we have gotten to see some amazing fights and characters through "the evolution" but we can't forget that this isn't really fighting anymore. It has become a sport.

Only read your title. Yes. MMA is EXACTLY the same today as it was in 1993. Royce would walk through the UFC HW division all in one night. Imagine being you.

 

[Huligani]

Hendrix, Sanchez, Penn, Hughes, McDonald...the list goes on. Look at his skillset, what skills does he posess that show "advancement" as a martial artist?

This guy said Sanchez... LOL. Nobody who trains any serious martial art would ever think this.

Usman’s striking is garbage and same for the guys that he fought.

Leon Edwards, Jorge Masvidal

 

[tru3f4n]

Evolution of MMA is more hype than reality.

Hype and rule changes have you believing the opposite of what has actually happened... fighters haven't evolved, fights have evolved into sport. The rules used to be simple, no gloves, no rules just use your discipline to kick the other guy's ass. Now? Use a cup, if you just graze the cup you get 5 minutes, no finger or digit manipulation, no eye, throat or spine/back of the head strikes, no kicking a downed opponet in the head, you have to wear gloves, you get to rest between rounds, yes, there are now rounds and, most of all, WEIGHT CLASSES.

We see a lot more "talent" in today's fight game only because the rules and regulations, mentioned above, allow more people to participate. With no weightclasses how many Aldos, Demetrious Johnsons, McGregors, GSPs and jon joneses would you see? Hell, even the 265lb cap limits what is truly out there.

We can't complain too much because we have gotten to see some amazing fights and characters through "the evolution" but we can't forget that this isn't really fighting anymore. It has become a sport.

yeah ok..... MMA is a sport it has rules what's your point? Go jerk it to Rio Heroes, Bumfights, or Ghetto Brawls if you don't like it.

 

[TrueFightFan]

he's better than rogers by alot because he's clearly superior everywhere. his record reflects that as well.

almost every top fighter from ww up would probably win ufc 1. khabib prob would too.

not sure why you're including cormier there as if he wouldn't be top 10 in the 2000s, or bader who really doesn't have much of a HW record. and as said, lewis could beat top guys from then and so could overeem. overeem is always borderline because he's still kill or be killed.

Ngannou's record does not show him as better than Rogers. Win/Loss, maybe but Ngannou's career is almost over and he hasn't fought elite competition, he's in the UFC for fucksake and it's a wasteland. He has another 2-3 as a contender and then he will really slow down.

Now, you keep referring to every WW and up would win UFC 1 and the truth is, maybe, but everyone from 205lbs and down wouldn't even attempt it. The question that keeps getting avoided is would a lighter weight win a UFC 1 type tournament TODAY. If you took the entire UFC roster and threw them into an open weight tournament, who would win it all? First, a HW would win it for sure and third none of the lighter weight fighters would even attempt it.

 

[TrueFightFan]

This guy said Sanchez... LOL. Nobody who trains any serious martial art would ever think this.



Leon Edwards, Jorge Masvidal

Yes, I said Sanchez. When he was in his prime, Uncle Dana shielded Matt Hughes from him and forced Sanchez to go down a weightclass. Sanchez was demolishing everyone at WW but would never get a title shot until he dropped weight. The cut decimated him and I think it damaged him, long term, but the son-of-a-bitch was a Nightmare.

....another typical "what have you done for me lately" Sherdogger...

 

[TrueFightFan]

yeah ok..... MMA is a sport it has rules what's your point? Go jerk it to Rio Heroes, Bumfights, or Ghetto Brawls if you don't like it.

You fucking moron, that is not the point. The point is that, although I enjoy the fights, it doesn't really represent TRUE MARTIAL ARTS.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Prime Tito Ortiz would still be elite today.

Absolutely!

 

[TrueFightFan]

Usman’s striking is garbage and same for the guys that he fought. They have no defense whatsoever no head movement nothing. It’s not any better than the last generation of fighters

but, but, but he's the champ and won his last fight so that makes him a GOAT....

 

[TrueFightFan]

Only read your title. Yes. MMA is EXACTLY the same today as it was in 1993. Royce would walk through the UFC HW division all in one night. Imagine being you.

I can't tell if you're being serious or are joking because of lot of replies here have come from absolute fucking morons....

No, Gracie would not walk through the division, today as the rules go. The rules protect the fighters from an actual fight. It has become a sport, and for good reason, we don't want guys killing themselves but let's not pretend that what we are watching on Saturday Nights is actual MMA. If there was a true evolution of MMA, it would allow for a modern guy like Gracie to fight in an open weight tournament and win.

 

[Allosaurus Fragillis]

Yes, because of advanced training, they are better athletes than the guys from back then but which, of the guys that you just mentioned (especially Khabib), wins a UFC 1 style, open weight tournament? Is Khabib taking out Ngannou or Miocic? Is Khabib taking out Usman, Adesanya or jones? This is what I am referring to when I say that the fighters have not "evolved" as much as everyone believes. It is more hype than reality because a true evolution would mean that Khabib would quit being a chickenshit and killing himself to cut weight and fight against anyone in the UFC. He doesn't but you keep going on about how "he can". He obviously doesn't think so.

Wait, you just admitted that the training is more advanced today and the fighters are better athletes. So MMA has evolved since UFC 1. Argument over, I win. GG.

 

[Allosaurus Fragillis]

See the "Khabib Argument" to find out what I think about Usman in regards to cutting weight. He barely got by Covington with that questionable stoppage and almost every fighter mentioned from 2010 and before would kick his ass. He can compete but he wouldn't dominate.

Oh for fuck's sake, I just explained Why Usman would beat those guys, and you just ignored all of that and you said they would beat Usman because...reasons. Also with the Exception of BJ, pretty much all of those guys from 10 years ago stayed at the same weight class too. So the whole weight cutting argument is a moot point. And Covington would bulldoze every Welterweight from 10 years ago except for GSP too, because of his wrestling and insane pace and cardio.
We already established that I won this argument, now you're just embarrassing yourself.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Which of "today's fighters" would dominate in an open weight tournament?

Also, you only think that Ngannou is better than Rogers because of the "what have you done for me lately" mentality we all suffer from on Sherdog. If he gets whooped by Miocic again and then has another lackluster performance, like he did against Lewis, everyone on Sherdog will turn on him, like they do everyone else. When your current top 10 HW's include Overeem, Cormier, Lewis and Ryan Bader, you have devolved, my brother.

I like the troll job you're pulling in here.

 

[Allosaurus Fragillis]

Usman’s striking is garbage and same for the guys that he fought. They have no defense whatsoever no head movement nothing. It’s not any better than the last generation of fighters

Dude, even Teddy Atlas complemented Usman's striking. Kamaru's striking is technical, he's good at switching stances, Usman sets up his striking well and he doesn't telegraph his jabs, and he has so much power in hands that he is able to drop and finish guys with his jabs. But sure, Usman's striking is "garbage" because he doesn't have Floyd Mayweather level head movement and because some random Sherbro says so. Fuck me.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Wait, you just admitted that the training is more advanced today and the fighters are better athletes. So MMA has evolved since UFC 1. Argument over, I win. GG.

I will ask you again, and type slower this time.... What current, lower weight class fighter from TODAY could win an original UFC 1 style tournament with the current UFC roster from HW on down?

That is what tells you that MMA, as fighting goes, has not evolved. You keep trying to compare athletes from today to back then, not fighting. I'm not talking about "the sport" either, pure fighting.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Oh for fuck's sake, I just explained Why Usman would beat those guys, and you just ignored all of that and you said they would beat Usman because...reasons. Also with the Exception of BJ, pretty much all of those guys from 10 years ago stayed at the same weight class too. So the whole weight cutting argument is a moot point. And Covington would bulldoze every Welterweight from 10 years ago except for GSP too, because of his wrestling and insane pace and cardio.
We already established that I won this argument, now you're just embarrassing yourself.

You're reaching....

 

[TrueFightFan]

I like the troll job you're pulling in here.

The UFC is a "troll job" on Sherdog trying to make us believe that every fighter who just won their last fight is a potential "GOAT". It has become MMA's version of the Kardashians...

 

[TrueFightFan]

Dude, even Teddy Atlas complemented Usman's striking. Kamaru's striking is technical, he's good at switching stances, Usman sets up his striking well and he doesn't telegraph his jabs, and he has so much power in hands that he is able to drop and finish guys with his jabs. But sure, Usman's striking is "garbage" because he doesn't have Floyd Mayweather level head movement and because some random Sherbro says so. Fuck me.

If you are fan of the "rock-em sock-em" robot game, then, yes, he has great striking.

 

[Substance Abuse]

The UFC is a "troll job" on Sherdog trying to make us believe that every fighter who just won their last fight is a potential "GOAT". It has become MMA's version of the Kardashians...

I think you're confusing marketing with the reality you're trying to push in here in regards to evolution overall. I think you just exposed yourself, honestly, lol.