Evidence of Jones' Guilt

[Big Tuppy Hole]

No, that's the burden of being the Boogeyman of the game.

No it's the burden of failing multiple tests

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

He left when USADA came to town.

I doubt most fighters are not reckless enough to do coke before fights either.

Seven of Jones opponents have popped. Its not rocket surgery.

How many popped multiple times and have had the rules changed for them.


I agree on the GsP comment

 

[Luffy]

No it's the burden of failing multiple tests

Yes, but still the #1. Or at least top 2

 

[Luffy]

Chael Sonnen said he had more juice on him than a Tropicana when fighting JJ, and still felt like he was locked with a bear there... And when it was over, he said he was like "wow, you proved your point, I don't want this ever again"... Lulz

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

No because you can't name anyone who did or could beat him.

Considering this thread is about the history of Jon's cheating, one would think that "Jon never lost" isn't exactly an appropriate response. As a matter of fact, it feels like anyone who thinks it is, is probably a fucking moron.

But ok, if that's the game we're playing:

Jon lost to Matt when the career cheater couldn't stop himself from cheating.

.. so what do I win?

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

Yes, but still the #1. Or at least top 2

I've never argued that. He's number with a huge asterisks next his name

 

[Tweak896]

Jones only problem was he kept fighting after Jan 1st 2015. He ironically has a better tested record than all the other GOAT candidates post USADA. Yet he gets the heat. It's ridiculous. To me, it's a convenient excuse why Silva/GSP/Fedor all slipped out of winning fights with strick drug testing. It's naive to think Jones is goat only because of peds.

 

[Luffy]

Considering this thread is about the history of Jon's cheating, one would think that "Jon never lost" isn't exactly an appropriate response. As a matter of fact, it feels like anyone who thinks it is, is probably a fucking moron.

But ok, if that's the game we're playing:

Jon lost to Matt when the career cheater couldn't stop himself from cheating.

.. so what do I win?

But he never lost. The only official loss is by DQ, not a real defeat, like, being bested in a fight. So yeah, he never lost other than by a DQ. Facts.

 

[Luffy]

I've never argued that. He's number with a huge asterisks next his name

His ** come from his antics outside fighting, but when it comes to fighting, he's ... Well, #1. Even #2 imo is already pushing it because the only undefeated fighter was Khabib, but Khabib didn't fight the same level of competition Jones did.

 

[C0NCH3TO]

Even in 2024 the drug testing is a fing joke.

“Drug Free Sport International”…. lol

 

[drphil]

His ** come from his antics outside fighting, but when it comes to fighting, he's ... Well, #1. Even #2 imo is already pushing it because the only undefeated fighter was Khabib, but Khabib didn't fight the same level of competition Jones did.

His asterisks comes from multiple instances of taking steroids which directly affect his fighting ability.

So no it's not outside his fighting.
Face it hes the barry bonds of mma, I wouldn't even care if not for the constant bending of rules to facilitate his cheating.

Something no one else has been afforded.

 

[icemun]

How many popped multiple times and have had the rules changed for them.


I agree on the GsP comment

Do you think state athletic commissions changed the rules specifically for one UFC fighter?


if everyone is likely taking. Why would state athletic commissions alter rules for, one fighter?

 

[icemun]

Jones only problem was he kept fighting after Jan 1st 2015. He ironically has a better tested record than all the other GOAT candidates post USADA. Yet he gets the heat. It's ridiculous. To me, it's a convenient excuse why Silva/GSP/Fedor all slipped out of winning fights with strick drug testing. It's naive to think Jones is goat only because of peds.

Further if 7 of his opponents popped, its not a mystery of whats going on.

Its amusing to hear guys like Chael (and Shamrock) candidly speak how prevalent roids are and how they used them

 

[Slapjit]

Jon Jones ain't gay tho TS idc what 6ixdog dem seh

 

[Cowboy Kurt Angle]

Case closed

 

[Romulas]

Considering this thread is about the history of Jon's cheating, one would think that "Jon never lost" isn't exactly an appropriate response. As a matter of fact, it feels like anyone who thinks it is, is probably a fucking moron.

But ok, if that's the game we're playing:

Jon lost to Matt when the career cheater couldn't stop himself from cheating.

.. so what do I win?

A turd biscuit.

 

[Luffy]

His asterisks comes from multiple instances of taking steroids which directly affect his fighting ability.

So no it's not outside his fighting.
Face it hes the barry bonds of mma, I wouldn't even care if not for the constant bending of rules to facilitate his cheating.

Something no one else has been afforded.

Well, can you prove which fight he has been directly influenced by steroids? Other than the one ruled as non-contest? Ok, it's suspicious he has done it before vs DC 1, but that fight wasn't ruled as a no contest. When DC talks about their fight, he mainly emphasizes JJ skills and even said "whether he was favoured in our second fight by steroids, idk, but he didn't really need that, he is just too good".

 

[drphil]

Well, can you prove which fight he has been directly influenced by steroids? Other than the one ruled as non-contest? Ok, it's suspicious he has done it before vs DC 1, but that fight wasn't ruled as a no contest. When DC talks about their fight, he mainly emphasizes JJ skills and even said "whether he was favoured in our second fight by steroids, idk, but he didn't really need that, he is just too good".

Using steroids helps you recover from injury quicker and allows you to train longer and better developing skills.

It's an advantage no matter how you look at it.
Again I wouldn't care as much if it weren't for the ufc clearly allowing this to go on for jones yet no one else.

 

[Tweak896]

Further if 7 of his opponents popped, its not a mystery of whats going on.

Its amusing to hear guys like Chael (and Shamrock) candidly speak how prevalent roids are and how they used them

Yeah. The whole divisions changed after 2015. It's like people have no idea how often everything was used pre usada. I have a feeling after USADA that guys fight so infrequently to get boosts between the long breaks.

 

[Trabaho]

He’ll get off and beat your favorite fighter within 12 months.
Don’t worry.

This was his funniest video