Social Even Democrats now agree : No Russian Collusion

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Another witch hunt, those good citizens at Enron didn't do nothing, am I right?

turns out muller and weissman can't say the same, hey but no big deal 100k innocent people lost their jobs over trumped up charges...pun intended

 

[SBJJ]

Between this and the tax cut thread. Mike is getting KOd more than Chuck Liddell

 

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Keep it going man. Hedge all of your bets on "collusion". Make it the reason you wake up in the morning. Because one day, just maybe, it's going to be the day that you finally get Trump. Mueller is coming, right?

More low effort low info posting. So you aren't man enough to admit there is a chance Manafort meeting with his campaign deputy and a Russian intelligence agent and sharing campaign polling data could have been campaign related and Trump may have known.

I've already said Manafort could have just been trying to enrich himself without Trump knowing at all, it is possible.

I don't follow the whole thing all that closely and think it is highly likely there won't be enough to connect any conspiracy to Trump as it would require someone like Manafort to tell the truth and he has demonstrated that he'd rather face the rest of his life in prison (80 years and 22 years in either trial)

Birtherism doesn't compare unless Hillary supporter and GOP chain emails are the equivalent of evidence admitted in court.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

turns out muller and weissman can't say the same, hey but no big deal 100k innocent people lost their jobs over trumped up charges...pun intended

so now the charges are Trumped up on Enron?

 

[TheBlondBomber]

I am not deflecting, I am pointing out that your argument that he "helped" a foreign national (who is connected to Russian intelligence) is silly, and am asking you to present a single plausible reason for why Kilimnik would have wanted that data if not for nefarious purposes to help Trump get elected, knowing that Russian intelligence later interfered in the US election...I think it's clar that was for the purposes of helping Manafort and Trump, and the payback from Manafort and Trump was the change in the GOP's policy toward Russian interests.

I’m not a campaign consultant. I have no idea why, but I’m sure there is some reason as to why it could be beneficial to Mr. Russkie.Maybe he wanted to show the Ukrainian how good he was at managing a campaign.

Your argument that Manafort committed a crime in sharing the data and then citing in inapplicable statute is stupid.

What’s not debatable is that the statute you cited regarding the illegality of Manafort sharing the data is inapplicable because there is zero indication that Manafort recieved anything in return for the Trump campaign.

You can walk back your claim of Manafort sharing the data being illegal any time now.

 

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so now the charges are Trumped up on Enron?

overturned unanimous by the supreme court...ABSOFUCKINGLUTLY

 

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keep trying to make accusations, all of which have nothing to do with Trump, as I mentioned earlier

All of which haven't been proven to have to do with trump, and I didn't say they have. But it would be silly to think there is zero chance giving polling data to a Russian intelligence agent with your campaign deputy has nothing to do with the guy you are campaigning for.

I didn't make accusations, you repeatedly said Manafort hasn't been charged with witness tampering, that is either low effort/low info posting because you don't bother informing yourself with what you have chosen to discuss in this thread.

 

[Limit Smasher]

More low effort low info posting. So you aren't man enough to admit there is a chance Manafort meeting with his campaign deputy and a Russian intelligence agent and sharing campaign polling data could have been campaign related and Trump may have known.

I've already said Manafort could have just been trying to enrich himself without Trump knowing at all, it is possible.

I don't follow the whole thing all that closely and think it is highly likely there won't be enough to connect any conspiracy to Trump as it would require someone like Manafort to tell the truth and he has demonstrated that he'd rather face the rest of his life in prison (80 years and 22 years in either trial)

Birtherism doesn't compare unless Hillary supporter and GOP chain emails are the equivalent of evidence admitted in court.

I'm kind of just baiting you to show how delusional you are. Thanks for the compliance. Keep it up. This shit is obviously making you lose sleep.

 

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All of which haven't been proven to have to do with trump, and I didn't say they have. But it would be silly to think there is zero chance giving polling data to a Russian intelligence agent with your campaign deputy has nothing to do with the guy you are campaigning for.

I didn't make accusations, you repeatedly said Manafort hasn't been charged with witness tampering, that is either low effort/low info posting because you don't bother informing yourself with what you have chosen to discuss in this thread.

he has not plead guilty to witness tampering, he broke from those charges, keep spinning

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

overturned unanimous by the supreme court...ABSOFUCKINGLUTLY

Bro, when you are saying that the charges against Enron were trumped up, you need to go to bed. And when you wake up tomorrow, read up on Enron, as they sure as shit were really fucking far from innocent. Weissmann got to the truth, he just didn't follow all the rules set up to protect white collar criminals.

 

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I'm out

 

[PEB]

MSNBC fake news.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Some of them already got out of prison.
"Lying to authorities" the oldest trick in the prosecutorial book of when they don't got jack.

The oldest trick in the book is to lie and hope you get away with it.

 

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Bro, when you are saying that the charges against Enron were trumped up, you need to go to bed. And when you wake up tomorrow, read up on Enron, as they sure as shit were really fucking far from innocent. Weissmann got to the truth, he just didn't follow all the rules set up to protect white collar criminals.

ALL of the convictions were overturned, the same for Auther Anderson

 

[58miles]

MSNBC fake news.

At least MSNBC viewers can find South Carolina on a map and know who controls Congress unlike Fox News viewers.

 

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I'm kind of just baiting you to show how delusional you are. Thanks for the compliance. Keep it up. This shit is obviously making you lose sleep.

Not at all. But shit or get off the pot. Man up and respond yes/no to:

It is not worth investigating a campaign when the campaign manager shares campaign data with a foreign intelligence agent from a country that interfered in the election that campaign was for, and the campaign manager admits to witness tampering with the foreign agent and conspiracy to defraud the US.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

I’m not a campaign consultant. I have no idea why, but I’m sure there is some reason as to why it could be beneficial to Mr. Russkie.

Your argument that Manafort committed a crime in sharing the data and then citing in inapplicable statute is stupid.

What’s not debatable is that the statute you cited regarding the illegality of Manafort sharing the data is inapplicable because there is zero indication that Manafort recieved anything in return for the Trump campaign.

You can walk back your claim of Manafort sharing the data being illegal any time now.

You are being a pedant, and exactly, you have no idea how that polling data would have "helped" Kilimnik in his role as a pro-Ukranian (and Russian intelligence connected) political consultant if not for nefarious purposes because it's silly to think that it would, whereas it's overwhelmingly plausible that said data being used by Russian intelligence in their interference in the US elections would have helped the campaign that Manafort was running. Trump won the biggest upset in political history because 78,000 votes went his way in three key states despite losing the general election by 3 million votes, polling data mattered.

 

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ALL of the convictions were overturned, the same for Auther Anderson

No. Arthur Anderson yes, Enron No. Why bother posting if you are going to keep being wrong about things you could easily google?

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

ALL of the convictions were overturned, the same for Auther Anderson

Are you saying the charges were without merit? Do you think Enron executives were innocent and were the victims in a witch hunt?

 

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he has not plead guilty to witness tampering, he broke from those charges, keep spinning

You should feel bad you are so misinformed. No. He can't retract the guilty plea. That was part of the plea deal, even if he breaks the conditions.

Not to mention -you said several times he wasn't charged with witness tampering so even if he did 'break from those charges' (he didn't and can't) you are still wrong.