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Social Even Democrats now agree : No Russian Collusion




And the EXPECTED Nothing-Burger has finally arrived.<Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>

<TheDonald>#WitchHuntAllButOver #MAGA2020

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When even the Fake News media is reporting there is no Collusion, then you know there is no Collusion and I'm sure this hurt a ton for those leftist assholes to report.

And I couldn't be more pleased. <13>


Finally, we can all move on from this.


You realize that they are probably leaking this on purpose, so that it will already be out there, when they go after him for conspiracy, or obstruction.

The idea basically being they are heading off the counter that they found no collussion, so the whole investigation is absurd. They leak that now, so this counter is defused when they charge obstruction.
 
You realize that they are probably leaking this on purpose, so that it will already be out there, when they go after him for conspiracy, or obstruction.

The idea basically being they are heading off the counter that they found no collussion, so the whole investigation is absurd. They leak that now, so this counter is defused when they charge obstruction.
ahh 4D checkers!!!
 
Woodward reported in the book fear that Dowd didn't understand where Mueller was coming from in his insistence to depose Trump, and that Dowd considered that Mueller had something that Trump's defense team wasn't aware of. Both the house and the senate investigations have taken back seats to Mueller's investigation, and we know that several (Rep. Spier has said there are 2 more, with Trump Jr. being one of them) people close to Trump have lied to congress in powder puff interviews, so of course there are going to be things that Mueller knows that Burr wouldn't know, so it's still too early to make too much of what Burr is saying at this point.

Dowd was on a podcast today and used "guess" instead of "lie" euphemistically to paraphrase what Woodward reported in his book about why Trump couldn't sit through a deposition without lying because Trump is a "fucking liar." It is beyond ridiculous, unless Trump truly is mentally handicapped, that he would be unable to keep his composure and answer "I don't recall" to questions he supposedly doesn't know the answers to. I am sure Dowd has considered that there are things that Trump has lied to him about though, but just doesn't want to admit that about someone who was paying him a $100K a month retainer, and he couldn't condone Trump being put in a vulnerable position.

Trump and his goons have lied about anything and everything Russia in the media, and to congress, and several high profile people from his campaign are going to spend time in prison. We know that Manafort, the head of Trump’s campaign, was offering secret polling data, for a US election, to a Kremlin linked Ukrainian spy with the point of facilitating the Kremlin's intervention into the US presidential election, to benefit Donal J. Trump, in exchange for helping Russian interests vis-a-vis Ukraine (which we saw him do). And, we know that Manafort, along with Trump Jr. and Kushner, met with Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, who has now clearly been exposed as an agent of the Kremlin (and therefore was working for the Kremlin at the time of the meeting) and discussed a quid pro quo deal to help Trump win the election in exchange for the Trumps undoing the Magnitsky act. And we have had Trump Jr. lying his ass off about all of it to the media (and most likely to congress as well), we have Trump Sr. crafting lies for Trump Jr. to try to cover up those lies.

Roger Stone was just indicted for lying to congress in his testimony surrounding Wikileaks, and we know that Wikileaks, according to Pompeo, is a "nonstate hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia,” and that “Russian military intelligence, the G.R.U., had used WikiLeaks to release data of U.S. victims that the G.R.U. had obtained through cyberoperations against the Democratic National Committee”, and that Assange does not "enjoy First Amendment protections."

Beyond those three pathways to Russian intelligence, there are the other unexplained issues:

1. Why was Trump lying about not trying to do business in Russia at that time if it was just another innocent business deal (and what an odd coincidence that the deal was being discussed while Trump was running for president with such an oddly pro Russian and pro Putin platform)?
2. Why was Cohen lying about to congress about that deal?
3. Why has Trump taken Putin's side over his intel chiefs many times when it comes to Russia interfering in the 2016 election, interference that was occurring while the Trump org was trying to build that tower, and while they were trying to bribe Putin with a $50 million penthouse (and was subsequently lied about until recently).
4. Why would Trump say something so moronic that he thought Putin's idea of bringing Russian Intelligence into the US's investigation into Russian election meddling was a great offer?
5. And overall, why does Trump continue to kowtow to the leader of a country that has only the GDP of South Korea (or New York State) when he has shit all over everyone else in the world, including South Korea who is our most important ally on the North Korea nuclear front? Why is his relationship so different with Putin?
 
Your post proves you have no idea what the actual fuck you're talking about . You're spewing off about FBI and Congress etc and missing the whole report which is drafted by Nat Intel and CIA. This has absolutely nothing to do with FBI Congressional testimony or the Dossier . Every time I feel I've seen rock bottom from a tRUmp supporter someone comes along and one ups the other
Republicans have always been fairly easy to own but with Trump in the White House it's so damn easy you almost feel sorry for them.

(Notice I said almost)
 
except he didn't share polling data with Russia (not a crime anyway) he was in communication with Ukraine an enemy of Russia
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Kilimnik was a pro-russian political consultant for years! And it is against federal law for a political campaign to accept help, or to solicit help, from a foreign government.
 
Yes leaks and coordination can be crimes depending on the leak and the coordination. For instance leaking the polling data as Manafort did is an explicit crime. Coordination of quid pro quo's 'you do this and I will give you that' can be a crime..

Wow. A quick google search will show that no person has ever been charged with “coordination” because it’s not a fucking crime. Cite a statute saying that coordination is crime. Your “coordination” example would be under bribery or corruption statutes.

And no, it was not a crime for Manafort to share his polling data with a Russian Associate. Can you show me where he was charged with the crime of leaking polling data? Can you show me what statute prohibits a person from sharing polling data with a foreign national? If it was a crime to share polling data, why was Manafort’s lawyer forthright in admitting that Manafort shared the data? It’s comical how off you are on this subject.

Are you just acting this dumb to hide from the fact that you you posted a diagram that alleged Ivanka’s friendship with Wendi Deng or Fedor fighting in Affliction was proof of Putin rigging the election for Trump?

Go to sleep, you had a rough night, kid.
 
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Kilimnik was a pro-russian political consultant for years! And it is against federal law for a political campaign to accept help, or to solicit help, from a foreign government.

Why didn’t Mueller charge him, then?

If it was Manafort giving the data to the Russian, how is that a campaign accepting help or soliciting help from a foreign government? Is it against federal law for a political campaign to help a foreign government? Robby Mook couldn’t send a donation to Haiti if he wanted to?

Also, cite the federal statute.
 
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Lefty's really embarrassing themselves in this thread. Kind of hilarious. Just proves that everyone is susceptible to conspiracy theories if it furthers their desires.

Right wingers looked dumb with the birther movement and Lefty's look even worse with this Russia shit because they're being egged on by the media that is only using them for views/revenue.

The more you idiots eat this Russia stuff up, the more the media is going to push it. They're making money off of you.

Not gonna celebrate too much though, the pendulum will swing and in 6 years, right wingers will be doing the same thing. Rinse and fucking repeat.
I agree there will be CT-level witchhunts on either side, but Birtherism doesn't compare to the Mueller investigation. Trump's campaign chair and his campaign deputy met with a Russian intelligence agent during the campaign, a guy the campaign chair shared internal polling data with. That campaign chair, Manafort, was willing to lie about his conversations with that Russian agent even though it violated his plea deal and he is now facing life in prison. You really don't think that was worth investigating, and even if no one flips on Trump, there was no chance he had knowledge of his campaign coordinating with Russians?
 
He already put Manafort in jail for a long time, that charge would have been more difficult to prove, and was probably based on intelligence sources that they may not want to expose.

Hmm sounds like you’re just speculating and you have no idea.

Did you cite the statute?

Based off what you previously said about it being against the law for a campaign to
accept help or solicit help from a foreign government, Manafort did nothing wrong. If it was Manafort giving the data to the Russian, how is that a campaign accepting help or soliciting help from a foreign government? Is it against federal law for a political campaign to help a foreign government? Robby Mook couldn’t send a donation to Haiti if he wanted to?
 
So you concede that your point about Kilimnik being a Ukrainian and therefore an enemy of Russia was wrong?
are you high, if he did something illegal it would be in the list of 18 charges...point it out because I can't find it
 
2 years total access to EVERY FUCKING thing, millions of dollars budgeted and nothing, yet if we were talking about voter fraud you'd be saying.... theres no evidence
There has been plenty uncovered and the investigation so far is paying for itself. Do you really think if Trump is innocent that they'll make up some bogus charges?
 
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Hmm sounds like you’re just speculating and you have no idea.

Did you cite the statute?

Based off what you previously said about it being against the law for a campaign to
accept help or solicit help from a foreign government, Manafort did nothing wrong. If it was Manafort giving the data to the Russian, how is that a campaign accepting help or soliciting help from a foreign government? Is it against federal law for a political campaign to help a foreign government? Robby Mook couldn’t send a donation to Haiti if he wanted to?

He gave the data to the Russians so they could be more precise and targeted with there misinformation campaign, you know the one that Trump still hasn't admitted to and thinks Putin's idea of allowing russians intelligence agents to help Mueller is a swell idea.

You didn't ask me for a statute in your post that I responded to, but looks like you added it after I responded, and that statute is: 52 U.S.C. § 30121 and generally, 11 CFR 110.20.

And of course I am speculating, so is anyone<LikeReally5>
 
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