Eugene Bareman agrees UFC does not push Izzy as much as they should

he lost badly to jan tbh, just got bullied and caved back to his weightclass, the ufc is smart to let him coool off a bit after that
 
What does that mean? They gave him one of the biggest names in the sport on a decline who wouldn't try to take him down less than a year in the UFC, then a title fight less than a year later, then gave him a title shot in another weight class after only 2 defenses.

How much more of a push are they supposed to give him?
 
It seems like the Jan loss put an end to a lot of the hype. If he had won that fight, especially in impressive fashion, I think Izzy would have become a megastar.
 
lyndon955 said:
Might be because he's an anime nerd who humps his opponents after winning, and is also incredibly thin skinned, clearly used to be a bully victim but also manages to come off as arrogant too

None of that bothers me because he's a fantastic fighter but he's never going to get the same push as a Jack the lad type like C Mac
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honestly he seems more like he used to be a bully

most people i know who used to get bullied a lot have very thick skin because of it and people who used to be bullies can't handle when shit talk comes their way
 
MetaIIica said:
It doesn't help when you go up a weight class just to get wrestle fucked and lose your unbeaten streak.
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Trying to be GSP and steal a belt, lol.

Got mooked by the worst LHW champ since Griffin.
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What are the parameters of fame? Who are we comparing Izzy's push to? Ronda's? Jones Jones'? Brock's? Conor's? Andy Silva's? GSP's?

Izzy isn't mogmaxxed, he doesn't look like people wanna look - especially with his pec. Meanwhile, Usman and Francis look how everyone wants to look.

His sense of humor and trash talking isn't anywhere near as funny as that of Chael, Rampage, Bisping or Conor. Even fellow MWs Till, Costa, Kevin Holland and Strickland are funnier than him. Vettori is more endearing with his goofiness.

Then there's his in cage work - most of his fights are point fighting affairs. Which champ right now is less exciting than Izzy in the cage?

Then there's his lack of good rivalries. Kiiind of what Silva went through pre-Chael - which, admittedly, isn't his fault. But Izzy is both Silva and the trash talker in his story, so who can really be his Chael? Maybe someone like Strickland? I kinda doubt that kickboxing dude who beat him will get to the top, but maybe him. Someone like Conor had beef all over the place, but Izzy's stuck with his division. Champs at WW and HW are his buds. He doesn't have that forward momentum.

And then there's the accessibility. Brock, Conor, GSP, Ronda were all attractions. You only get to see them when you had to pay for it. Izzy has a YouTube channel. That's all well and good when you're trying to build yourself from obscurity and most fighters should go for it, but there's a point where if you're too assessable - you're more like a TV star than a movie star. Feel me? Chael always says - you're either promoting a fight or you're not visible.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm wrong and T-Wood knows the answer, but this is what I think.
 
Pushed how? He got a video game cover, he's frequently shown on ESPN fight reaction social media, he's got a Year Of The Fighter program on fight pass. He got an immediate lhw title fight.

Brock had a developed following from WWE. Conor organically grew his following via his personality when he was a prelims Fighter. Rhonda had outside media backing due to being a female. GSP had the Canadian media pushing him. Izzy seems to be getting plenty of coverage from the ufc but outside media, his own country and the causuals don't really gravitate to him
 
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Heres my take


Ufc tried but izzy's corny beta personality didnt catch on with the ufcs most prized demo, the domestic average white and latino segment of americans that actually buy the ppvs.

Brock Conor and rhonda did.
 
Was he asleep when the UFC had the big jizz machine on full blast? Like Rogan and all the other guys talking about Izzy like he is the second coming of Christ?

He is a fantastic fighter and reasonably entertaining with his antics. But he sometimes comes off as a bullied-kid-turned-bully, a bit like Ronda (but not nearly as bad). He isn't exactly relatable (like say Bisping), which I don't hold against him, but one shouldn't be surprised that he isn't the ultimate fan favorite.
 
Bradillac said:
Izzy has had some real stinkers lately. He doesn't really have a crowd pleasing style and that Jan loss really hurt his marketability.
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He can be crowd pleasing like he was against Brunson, Kelvin, Rob, and Costa. But on the other hand there's his showings against Romero, Jan, and Vettori which are more tepid performances.
 
Love Izzy as a fighter but can't stand him when he talks.

The only exception is in his "How I made my 1st million" video, where he seemed super chill and down to earth. I think he's like Usman.. super cringy when he tries to give himself an attitude. Should just stick to being himself. Great fighter tho, that's what matters most.

War Bobby
 
I think he's definitely one of the more popular champions out there atm though that loss to Jan has definitely affected his stock. Lots of people were expecting him to go up to LHW and put Jan through a Matrix-esque beating. It also doesn't help that Glover, a 42 year old veteran, was able to completely decimate Jan soon afterward.
 
eddi said:
he lost badly to jan tbh, just got bullied and caved back to his weightclass, the ufc is smart to let him coool off a bit after that
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He didn't lose badly, it was a very competitive fight with neither guy able to implement significant damage. However, that alone is enough to damage Izzy's stock since he was expected to just style on Jan almost like Silva did to Forrest. It also doesn't help that Jan lost badly to Glover in his next fight.
 
Herwald said:
What are the parameters of fame? Who are we comparing Izzy's push to? Ronda's? Jones Jones'? Brock's? Conor's? Andy Silva's? GSP's?

Izzy isn't mogmaxxed, he doesn't look like people wanna look - especially with his pec. Meanwhile, Usman and Francis look how everyone wants to look.

His sense of humor and trash talking isn't anywhere near as funny as that of Chael, Rampage, Bisping or Conor. Even fellow MWs Till, Costa, Kevin Holland and Strickland are funnier than him. Vettori is more endearing with his goofiness.

Then there's his in cage work - most of his fights are point fighting affairs. Which champ right now is less exciting than Izzy in the cage?

Then there's his lack of good rivalries. Kiiind of what Silva went through pre-Chael - which, admittedly, isn't his fault. But Izzy is both Silva and the trash talker in his story, so who can really be his Chael? Maybe someone like Strickland? I kinda doubt that kickboxing dude who beat him will get to the top, but maybe him. Someone like Conor had beef all over the place, but Izzy's stuck with his division. Champs at WW and HW are his buds. He doesn't have that forward momentum.

And then there's the accessibility. Brock, Conor, GSP, Ronda were all attractions. You only get to see them when you had to pay for it. Izzy has a YouTube channel. That's all well and good when you're trying to build yourself from obscurity and most fighters should go for it, but there's a point where if you're too assessable - you're more like a TV star than a movie star. Feel me? Chael always says - you're either promoting a fight or you're not visible.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm wrong and T-Wood knows the answer, but this is what I think.
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When it comes to his cage work you can argue it's split in the middle. He's capable of being very entertaining to watch like he was against Whittaker, Brunson, and Kelvin, but he's also had some tepid performances, especially recently against Romero and Vettori.
 
GoshiShun17 said:
Shitty attitude??? As in loving to stay active? Cutting his own promos and calling out his opponents? Being outspoken? Wanting to take on all challenges? Israel is as professional as any fighter there's been inside and outside the octagon. You people are strange.
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lmao its coming from a brainless shertarder. So has no bearing on reality. All your points are based in fact. Shertarders points are based on a delusional narrative.
 
I disagre, 100 hundred percent.
I mean they allowed him to move up and challenge for the lHW strap after only a few title defenses.
 
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