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She is just too fake
I am no fan of hers or her organization really, nor was I of Charlie, so this isn't coming from a perspective of a fan..
But anyone claiming they know how she must be acting can really just shut the fuck up.. she had her husband murdered on social media for the world to see within minutes of it happening.. no one knows how she feels and no one should tell her how to feel or act.. you can disagree and not support her org, and leave it at that
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How rich that you ask for a source and then when presented with one dismiss it. Yes I "assumed" that based on reporting instead of believing things on faith because it's convenient for your argument like you did when you lied about the 300k crowd at Kirk’s memorial(still waiting on you to produce reporting that substantiates that claim)So the answer is you don't have a source showing that Trump told him to stop talking about Epstein, you just assumed that which I figured.
That he had a list with dozens of elected Democrats as well as abortion advocates and Planned Parenthood centers was widely reported. We have at least as much evidence of Vance Boelter's motive, if not more, than we do with Tyler Robinson.Where was this stated?
https://minnesotareformer.com/2025/07/11/a-month-after-assassinations-questions-linger/Boelter was a Christian, according to his roommate and videos of his sermons posted online. He seems to have been motivated by an opposition to abortion and voted in the 2024 Republican presidential primary. His apparent targets were Democratic elected officials, abortion providers and abortion rights activists.
The suspect in the assassination of a Minnesota state lawmaker and the shooting of a second possessed written papers that mentioned dozens of potential targets, some in neighboring states, including politicians, civic leaders, abortion rights advocates and Planned Parenthood centers, according to law enforcement officials.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/15/...s-suspect-targets.html?searchResultPosition=1The elected officials he targeted were all Democrats, Mr. Thompson said. Abortion rights advocates were also among those mentioned in the lists of names.
A vehicle was found by police on a rural road outside Minneapolis that officers believe had been used by the suspect. One motive being considered is the targeting of pro-choice abortion activists after a list obtained from the vehicle identified prominent advocates and others in support of left-wing causes.
David Carlson, a longtime friend of Boelter’s who lives at an address that was searched by police, said Boelter had voted for Donald Trump last year and was a devout Christian who strongly opposed abortion.
https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-to...r-minnesota-shooting-wife-tim-waltz-fjtpxnx9dThe document found in the suspect’s car listed about 70 targets, including the four victims. Also named were Tim Walz, the Democratic governor of Minnesota who stood as Kamala Harris’s running-mate last year; and the Democratic congresswoman Ilhan Omar; as well as doctors who provide abortions and Planned Parenthood clinics.
I can also comment on how weird it is for a grieving widow to come out to her husbands memorial with pyrotechnics and to hawk merch at it.I am no fan of hers or her organization really, nor was I of Charlie, so this isn't coming from a perspective of a fan..
But anyone claiming they know how she must be acting can really just shut the fuck up.. she had her husband murdered on social media for the world to see within minutes of it happening.. no one knows how she feels and no one should tell her how to feel or act.. you can disagree and not support her org, and leave it at that
Yes, we're aware you can make excuses for your vile behavior.I can also comment on how weird it is for a grieving widow to come out to her husbands memorial with pyrotechnics and to hawk merch at it.
More importantly I can comment on how the MAGA movement did everything to undermine norms of civility and yet are now demanding it for one of their political operatives.
So I was right. You just assumed. Next time, just admit it outright.How rich that you ask for a source and then when presented with one dismiss it. Yes I "assumed" that based on reporting instead of believing things on faith because it's convenient for your argument like you did when you lied about the 300k crowd at Kirk’s memorial(still waiting on you to produce reporting that substantiates that claim)
Well I know it’s inconvenient for you, but we have both Tyler Robinson’s and Vance Boelter’s own words. I’m not surprised that you didn’t know this because you are interest in the Hortman’s murders is only to use the tragedy itself for political gain. But the fact is that there is no clear motive yet and he is being frustratingly vague about it.That he had a list with dozens of elected Democrats as well as abortion advocates and Planned Parenthood centers was widely reported. We have at least as much evidence of Vance Boelter's motive, if not more, than we do with Tyler Robinson.
Is this the part where you argue that because police haven't declared a motive we can't draw the obvious conclusion about a Trump voting radical Christian who hated abortion and had a list of dozens of elected Democrats, including the two he stalked and murdered, and zero Republicans while at the same time you act with certainty about Tyler Robinsons motive?
I just linked you an ABC article reporting as much and the New York Times also mentioned it. It was widely reported on and Kirk never denied it but keep living in denial that your favorite little influencer was little more than a political stooge. So if by "assumed" you mean "took widely reported facts which were never denied and clearly line up with the events in question" then sure I "assumed"So I was right. You just assumed. Next time, just admit it outright.
Uh yeah of course I would, the fact that you believed it shows how susceptible you are to propaganda. Just hilarious that you guys are so insecure that you have to lie about crowd sizes and then double down when called out.Several people reported the 277k attending the memorial. You’ll dismiss the source because it’s TPUSA, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t reported. You’ll gloss over that anyways though.
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Over 277,000 people attended Charlie Kirk's memorial, Turning Point USA spokesperson says | Fox News Video
'The Charlie Kirk Show' executive producer Andrew Kolvet describes the 'whirlwind' leading up to his late founder Charlie Kirk's memorial and reflects on his growing legacy on 'Jesse Watters Primetime.'www.foxnews.com
You "corrected" me by ignoring all the available evidence I just posted that points to the obvious conclusion that happens to be inconvenient for your side.Well I know it’s inconvenient for you, but we have both Tyler Robinson’s and Vance Boelter’s own words. I’m not surprised that you didn’t know this because you are interest in the Hortman’s murders is only to use the tragedy itself for political gain. But the fact is that there is no clear motive yet and he is being frustratingly vague about it.
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Accused assassin Vance Boelter reportedly denies Trump, pro-life motivations
The man charged with killing former Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, recently spoke with the New York Post from Sherburne County Jail.www.yahoo.com
Boelter:
“You are fishing and I can’t talk about my case…I’ll say it didn’t involve either the Trump stuff or pro life,” Boelter allegedly wrote using Sherburne County Jail's internal messaging system, the Post reports.
"I will just say there is a lot of information that will come out in future that people will look at and judge for themselves that goes back 24 months before the 14th."
This is not the first time I’ve had to correct you on this. You only cared about this case when you were able to use it to distract from Kirk’s killing. Or at least to complain about the amount of people who were affected by it vs the Hortman’s murder.
So as I figured, and also, as you have admitted, you are connecting dots where there aren’t any yet and stating it as fact. You are free to do that, but others are also free to scrutinize your opinion and point out where it is wrong.
I can also comment on how weird it is for a grieving widow to come out to her husbands memorial with pyrotechnics and to hawk merch at it.
Erika Kirk has stepped into the spotlight to engage in the same kind of partisan activism her husband did, she is now a public figure and perfectly fair game for criticism as an individual separate from the ideas of the movement she represents. And pointing out the morbid spectacle of the Charlie Kirk memorial and her strange public grieving is perfectly fair too. Further, I think its important for Democrats and those on the left to reject this kind of weak "when they go low, we go high" mindset. The reality is that we no longer have norms of civility in part because of the work of people like Charlie Kirk, that his grieving widow would feel the sting of what that means is in my view not only predictable but a kind of poetic justice and possibly necessary if we're ever going to revive those norms of civility.You can do whatever you want.
She isn't my cup of tea either, but I am going to reserve personal judgement seeing as to how she went through a very traumatic event where her husband was brutally murdered in front of the entire world in, basically, real-time. Not many people in the history of the world have ever experienced such a traumatic public horror.
I can disagree with her ideas (and I mostly do) without taking shots at her. Everyone grieves and reacts differently to tragic and monumental loss. I'll give the grieving widow the benefit of the doubt and attack the ideas, not the person.
Erika Kirk has stepped into the spotlight to engage in the same kind of partisan activism her husband did, she is now a public figure and perfectly fair game for criticism as an individual separate from the ideas of the movement she represents. And pointing out the morbid spectacle of the Charlie Kirk memorial and her strange public grieving is perfectly fair too. Further, I think its important for Democrats and those on the left to reject this kind of weak "when they go low, we go high" mindset. The reality is that we no longer have norms of civility in part because of the work of people like Charlie Kirk, that his grieving widow would feel the sting of what that means is in my view not only predictable but a kind of poetic justice and possibly necessary if we're ever going to revive those norms of civility.
If she was privately grieving like Jackie Kennedy did after JFK was murdered that'd be one thing but she's using the strange spectacle of his memorial and her public grieving to advance her partisan agenda so perfectly fair and reasonable to criticize her on some level.To me it just goes beyond politics.. I don't think of everyone as a political opponent, especially during tragedy. We're all humans. We all have negative human experiences and feelings like loss and tragedy.
To me its not really "going high" - I never really thought of it like that. Its just how people should act in society IMO. I don't feel like its going above and beyond - its just understanding the context of events and being rational with someone who experienced something traumatic.
By all means, I think you should debate her thoughts and ideas, of course.. but taking shots at how she grieved for her husband is not a good look IMO. You do you, though.
To me it just goes beyond politics.. I don't think of everyone as a political opponent, especially during tragedy. We're all humans. We all have negative human experiences and feelings like loss and tragedy.
To me its not really "going high" - I never really thought of it like that. Its just how people should act in society IMO. I don't feel like its going above and beyond - its just understanding the context of events and being rational with someone who experienced something traumatic.
By all means, I think you should debate her thoughts and ideas, of course.. but taking shots at how she grieved for her husband is not a good look IMO. You do you, though.
Sure but you're missing an important detail. She's not only a grieving widow. She's a CEO and public facing representative of the administration and Conservative movement, essentially an influencer. She cannot hide behind the "grieving widow" shield any time there's fair criticism of her as a public facing influencer and/or CEO. She wants to come on every news media and interview, every podcast, she crossed that threshold.
Let's be honest. People aren't falling for that "how dare you say anything negative about this grieving widow" nonsense because she loves the spotlight. Clear as day.
Yeah, sorry I'm not suspending reality to ignore my eyes and ears to give her a pass when I'm seeing obvious acting.I am no fan of hers or her organization really, nor was I of Charlie, so this isn't coming from a perspective of a fan..
But anyone claiming they know how she must be acting can really just shut the fuck up.. she had her husband murdered on social media for the world to see within minutes of it happening.. no one knows how she feels and no one should tell her how to feel or act.. you can disagree and not support her org, and leave it at that
Ah yes. “He didn’t deny it” therefore your assumption is fact. Got it.I just linked you an ABC article reporting as much and the New York Times also mentioned it. It was widely reported on and Kirk never denied it but keep living in denial that your favorite little influencer was little more than a political stooge. So if by "assumed" you mean "took widely reported facts which were never denied and clearly line up with the events in question" then sure I "assumed"
That’s not a lie if it was reported as such. I’d never seen the revised numbers.Uh yeah of course I would, the fact that you believed it shows how susceptible you are to propaganda. Just hilarious that you guys are so insecure that you have to lie about crowd sizes and then double down when called out.
So you know Boelter’s motives better than Boelter himself? This meltdown of yours comes across as incredibly insincere since you’re accusing me of ignoring evidence yet you ignore the actual words of the Hortman’s killer.You "corrected" me by ignoring all the available evidence I just posted that points to the obvious conclusion that happens to be inconvenient for your side.
No I’m not denying that. What I’m saying is the motives for those murders that you are specifically, claiming as a fact, were debunked by the actual guy who murdered them. Funny you won’t touch any of the quotes from him though. I guess the real reason he murdered them isn’t convenient enough for you.But since you need a confession to determine motive, what do you think Tyler Robinson's motive was and how do you know that if you won't accept evidence retrieved at the crime scene or testimony from friends and family? Has Tyler Robinson publicly stated his motive? You're saying I'm connecting dots when there aren't any yet, are you denying the existence of the kill list found by authorities that happens to have dozens of Democrat politicans and zero Republicans?
You asked for a source and I gave you two, just gonna ignore that it was widely reported and that you have no evidence to the contrary?Ah yes. “He didn’t deny it” therefore your assumption is fact. Got it.
True, you are gullible and stupid enough to buy it at face valueThat’s not a lie if it was reported as such. I’d never seen the revised numbers.
So you know Boelter’s motives better than Boelter himself? This meltdown of yours comes across as incredibly insincere since you’re accusing me of ignoring evidence yet you ignore the actual words of the Hortman’s killer.
I guess its just a coincidence that Boelter had 45 Democrats and a bunch of abortion providers on his kill list but zero Republicans. After all murderers are known to be very honest people so we know Boelter would not lie here.No I’m not denying that. What I’m saying is the motives for those murders that you are specifically, claiming as a fact, were debunked by the actual guy who murdered them. Funny you won’t touch any of the quotes from him though. I guess the real reason he murdered them isn’t convenient enough for you.
You have to remember that Confucamus was one of the posters filling up my thread with the 'Tim Walz Associate' nonsense and running to Grok to try to prove he didn't vote for TrumpYou asked for a source and I gave you two, just gonna ignore that it was widely reported and that you have no evidence to the contrary?
True, you are gullible and stupid enough to buy it at face value
I guess its just a coincidence that Boelter had 45 Democrats and a bunch of abortion providers on his kill list but zero Republicans. After all murderers are known to be very honest people so we know Boelter would not lie here.
Btw you never answered my question: what was Tyler Robinson's motive and how do you know?