Crime Epstein Victim Virginia Giuffre Hit By Bus, Will Die in 4 days

Madmick said:
Yes, she's a big fat liar, you dumdum.

First, it hasn't even been verified she was the one involved in the only bus-car collision on record in that area of Australia according to police. Might not have been her. Because, second, not only was there not a high speed collision, nor an indication from the police they advised victims on the scene to transport themselves to the hospital because of no available officers, as her spokesperson claimed, but also a record of no injuries. I also find that claim spurious, btw, because in my experience, it's unlikely police will tell potentially seriously injured people to transport themselves to the hospital, as not only may they not be able to, but that could potentially introduce a hazard to the public, since you don't want the discombobulated operating (damaged) vehicles or making decisions like that, but maybe things are different in rural Australia, though I doubt it, but okay, we'll leave that.

However, that was on March 24th when other news agencies indicate she admitted herself. She was discharged, not transferred to another hospital, as she claimed in her Instagram photo post, which came nearly a week later, when she went to another hospital, apparently from injuries sustained in a fall, not an auto accident. And her kidney problems identified the previous week were apparently related to a "pre-existing condition", not the accident that was so trivial police didn't even respond to the scene, nor did the bus driver terminat his route delivering children to their homes; assuming she was one of the persons involved in that incident in the first place.

The doctors didn't tell her she had 4 days to live from renal issues, and she didn't get hit by a bus going 110 km/hr. She's a big fat liar who suffered a mental breakdown from depression on social media for all the world to see. If most of us did this, nobody would care, but she's been the poster girl for Epstein victims since Prince Andrew apparently porked her as a teenager.
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All of this is news to me.

Re: "other news agencies indicate she admitted herself."
Has that been posted ITT? Or the other one? Show me.
 
Andy Capp said:
If anyone is still paying any attention. Woman gets in a traffic accident. Posts something odd on social media. Therefore, someone tried to kill her or she's a big fat liar? Pfft. It's fortunate she survived and here's to hoping she recovers. Aside from that it's a non-story, IMO. The only reason I commented on this at all was the odd (and apparently deliberate) misquote by Sky News.
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Well, if that is the Fox News there, it’s not surprising
 
Andy Capp said:
All of this is news to me.

Re: "other news agencies indicate she admitted herself."
Has that been posted ITT? Or the other one? Show me.
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Keep up:
Anewt said:
Im not surprised





Alleged Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre was charged with breaching a family violence order just days before she made headlines following a bus crash.

The charge was lodged at the Magistrates Court in Joondalup, WA, on March 14.

No plea was entered at the hearing and the matter is next listed for a hearing on April.
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Madmick said:
Keep up:
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lol I thought you said there were other sources for this information besides a Murdoch/Newscorp-owned company. Hilarious.
www.smh.com.au

News Corp buys Sky News in Australia and New Zealand from Seven and Nine

News Corporation has fully acquired Australian News Channel, which produces Sky News in Australia and New Zealand.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
en.wikipedia.org

news.com.au - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Edit: the irony of "keep up" lol you get worse every fucking day. So, yeah. Still waiting on these "other news agencies".
 
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Andy Capp said:
lol I thought you said there were other sources for this information besides a Murdoch/Newscorp-owned company. Hilarious.
www.smh.com.au

News Corp buys Sky News in Australia and New Zealand from Seven and Nine

News Corporation has fully acquired Australian News Channel, which produces Sky News in Australia and New Zealand.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
en.wikipedia.org

news.com.au - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Edit: the irony of "keep up" lol you get worse every fucking day. So, yeah. Still waiting on these "other news agencies".
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The "other news agencies" reporting the mentioned details (ex. her "pre-existing condition", the admission to the second hospital via ambulance stemming from a "fall") were internally cited in that article: by 9Perth News and 7News, respectively. My reference to them had nothing to do with Murdoch's media umbrella. I was pointing out these were facts independently verified by distinct news bodies in the news.com.au article's citations.

And, FYI, 7News is NOT a Murdoch-owned news network.
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Andy Capp said:
lol I thought you said there were other sources for this information besides a Murdoch/Newscorp-owned company. Hilarious.
www.smh.com.au

News Corp buys Sky News in Australia and New Zealand from Seven and Nine

News Corporation has fully acquired Australian News Channel, which produces Sky News in Australia and New Zealand.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
en.wikipedia.org

news.com.au - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Edit: the irony of "keep up" lol you get worse every fucking day. So, yeah. Still waiting on these "other news agencies".
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Newscorp corporation just buys other articles to share btw.

They rarely produce their own


It often has cnn. Nbc etc etc. Tonnes of theguardian etc.

For instance the last article i shared is from newswire. Despite being on news.com.au
 
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Anewt said:
Newscorp corporation just buys other articles to share btw.

They rarely produce their own


It often has cnn. Nbc etc etc. Tonnes of theguardian etc.

For instance the last article i shared is from newswire. Despite being on news.com.au
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I liked @Madmick's response better.
 
HereticBD said:
I liked @Madmick's response better.
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I'm just waiting to hear how the police themselves reporting there was only a single incident in the region on the day in question involving a bus and a car had no injuries reported (as to their dispatchers receiving calls) is Murdoch media propaganda. For the love of God, not only was she a big fat liar on her social media, now she hired a spokesperson to start formally issuing lies to the media on her behalf.

The gullibility dirt is above his ears, but the dude won't drop his shovel.
 
Madmick said:
I'm just waiting to hear how the police themselves reporting there was only a single incident in the region on the day in question involving a bus and a car had no injuries reported (as to their dispatchers receiving calls) is Murdoch media propaganda. For the love of God, not only was she a big fat liar on her social media, now she hired a spokesperson to start formally issuing lies to the media on her behalf.

The gullibility dirt is above his ears, but the dude won't drop his shovel.
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And a battered and bruised @Andy Capp, when presented with a link from a source he believed to be coming from his enemies that would disprove his beliefs, leaned into my ear, and with his final breath he whispered...

"I ain't clicking on that shit..."
 
Anewt said:
Yeah. Shes going through a divorce and not in good head space ... i think it was a plea for attention / help. Tried to use it to get access to her kids im guessing.


According to 9News Perth, Giuffre admitted herself to Joondalup Hospital, in the northern suburbs of Perth, with a pre-existing injury immediately after the collision.

While there, it’s understood doctors initiated tests that identified issues with her kidneys. Giuffre was discharged the following day.

The following week, Giuffre was brought to Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital, also in Perth, by ambulance and was seeking treatment for pain.

It’s understood she will be discharged Wednesday.

7News also reported Giuffre’s heavy bruising was the result of a fall.

Mr Roberts said that he hadn’t been in contact with his daughter since her accident but that her brother had.

“She’s in really bad shape,” he continued, “She’s very depressed… There’s everything else she’s been going through with the divorce and not being able to see her kids.”

Mr Roberts went on to claim that Giuffre had recently become estranged from her children amid a “messy” divorce from her husband of 22 years, Australian martial arts instructor Robert Giuffre.

Days before her alleged accident, Giuffre hinted their marriage had broken down.



Also note. She never contacted the police regarsing the accident .. it was the driver of tge bus the next day.

There definetely was no 110kph bus crash. Shes harmed every victim of epstein i sadly think
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Corona said:
Dumb bitch is going to ruin the credibility of actual victims.
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I understand why people get turned off by it, but it's worth taking the time to understand that this sort of thing is baked in the cake with sexual abuse cases against minors.

Firstly, predators target children and teens who are vulnerable, have sparse support, and generally have mental health or social developmental issues. A well adjusted, well socialized, young teen girl doesn't go into a strange man's house, take money for sexual favours, and then come back. These are generally girls who need someone in their life to give them support, treat them kindly, and help them develop self respect. Predators recognize that need and desire, pose as the person who can deliver it, and then use that dynamic to exploit and abuse. This is what literal grooming looks like, and good luck pulling it off with a kid who is socially and emotionally healthy and has loving and competent home support.

Add to that the damage done by the abuse, and yes, you end up with victims who are messed up and messy for the long term, and sometimes for life. As cathartic as it may feel to heap blame on these victims for their often bizarre seeming reactions when put under stress, we should resist this urge. Those bizarre (often self-sabotaging) behaviours are kind of the point. This is precisely why we (should) take child and teen sexual abuse and exploitation so seriously. Because it has lifelong negative effects. These (mostly) women don't just walk away with some icky memories. Their very ability to thrive in the world is undercut, from difficulty maintaining healthy relationships, to trouble holding jobs, to sustance addiction, to higher instances of learning disabilities and diabetes and heart disease.

It is absolutely reasonable to suspect and interrogate the more bizarre narratives put forward by such people. But I don't feel that it's as reasonable to pass harsh judgement on them for it. These are the symptoms of moral and mental injury.
 
HereticBD said:
And a battered and bruised @Andy Capp, when presented with a link from a source he believed to be coming from his enemies that would disprove his beliefs, leaned into my ear, and with his final breath he whispered...

"I ain't clicking on that shit..."
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And when that doesn't work he just runs away apparently
 
jeremyemilio said:
I understand why people get turned off by it, but it's worth taking the time to understand that this sort of thing is baked in the cake with sexual abuse cases against minors.

Firstly, predators target children and teens who are vulnerable, have sparse support, and generally have mental health or social developmental issues. A well adjusted, well socialized, young teen girl doesn't go into a strange man's house, take money for sexual favours, and then come back. These are generally girls who need someone in their life to give them support, treat them kindly, and help them develop self respect. Predators recognize that need and desire, pose as the person who can deliver it, and then use that dynamic to exploit and abuse. This is what literal grooming looks like, and good luck pulling it off with a kid who is socially and emotionally healthy and has loving and competent home support.

Add to that the damage done by the abuse, and yes, you end up with victims who are messed up and messy for the long term, and sometimes for life. As cathartic as it may feel to heap blame on these victims for their often bizarre seeming reactions when put under stress, we should resist this urge. Those bizarre (often self-sabotaging) behaviours are kind of the point. This is precisely why we (should) take child and teen sexual abuse and exploitation so seriously. Because it has lifelong negative effects. These (mostly) women don't just walk away with some icky memories. Their very ability to thrive in the world is undercut, from difficulty maintaining healthy relationships, to trouble holding jobs, to sustance addiction, to higher instances of learning disabilities and diabetes and heart disease.

It is absolutely reasonable to suspect and interrogate the more bizarre narratives put forward by such people. But I don't feel that it's as reasonable to pass harsh judgement on them for it. These are the symptoms of moral and mental injury.
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Great post.

Trauma really is a mfer.
 
Anewt said:
Im not surprised





Alleged Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre was charged with breaching a family violence order just days before she made headlines following a bus crash.

The charge was lodged at the Magistrates Court in Joondalup, WA, on March 14.

No plea was entered at the hearing and the matter is next listed for a hearing on April.
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Can you post the entire news report?
I hate how that site blocks you for clicking on that link.
It's worse than a paywall.

Now I gotta email that website and write an essay explaining reasons why I want to read the news.
 
jeremyemilio said:
I understand why people get turned off by it, but it's worth taking the time to understand that this sort of thing is baked in the cake with sexual abuse cases against minors.

Firstly, predators target children and teens who are vulnerable, have sparse support, and generally have mental health or social developmental issues. A well adjusted, well socialized, young teen girl doesn't go into a strange man's house, take money for sexual favours, and then come back. These are generally girls who need someone in their life to give them support, treat them kindly, and help them develop self respect. Predators recognize that need and desire, pose as the person who can deliver it, and then use that dynamic to exploit and abuse. This is what literal grooming looks like, and good luck pulling it off with a kid who is socially and emotionally healthy and has loving and competent home support.

Add to that the damage done by the abuse, and yes, you end up with victims who are messed up and messy for the long term, and sometimes for life. As cathartic as it may feel to heap blame on these victims for their often bizarre seeming reactions when put under stress, we should resist this urge. Those bizarre (often self-sabotaging) behaviours are kind of the point. This is precisely why we (should) take child and teen sexual abuse and exploitation so seriously. Because it has lifelong negative effects. These (mostly) women don't just walk away with some icky memories. Their very ability to thrive in the world is undercut, from difficulty maintaining healthy relationships, to trouble holding jobs, to sustance addiction, to higher instances of learning disabilities and diabetes and heart disease.

It is absolutely reasonable to suspect and interrogate the more bizarre narratives put forward by such people. But I don't feel that it's as reasonable to pass harsh judgement on them for it. These are the symptoms of moral and mental injury.
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This is a great post
 
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