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Ephedra Extract v. Ephedrine

Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by anaconda, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. Ian Coe Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    I have tried 25 mg of yohimbine in one go.

    I was mid way through a run and did not feel good at all
     
  2. anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    you get more that way anyhow, and its easier to regulate. Good stuff.
     
  3. anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    How did it go for you?

    There was something weird about the stuff they gave me. Defintely had something in it, but it was different from the eph I got from my pharmacy. I wouldnt buy from SND again, even though shipping was pretty fast.

    If I ever decide to get some more I'll use the other site, elitenet.
     
  4. MikeSantor White Belt

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    Anaconda, as you know i have been doing lots of research too. the consensus from a few different forums is clear. ephedra extract (leaves) does not have the alkanoids (basicly the thing that makes it do what we want it too) so its complete bullshit. get the pure ephedrine from elite, or if i was you, wait to see if i get my shipment and if its all good, get it from there.
     
  5. Rhood Gold Belt

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    I've had that exact same experience with Yohimbine as well.
    I refuse to put that in my body ever again.
     
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  7. Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Not everyone responds well to adrenaline mimetics. For some people it can make things go very very wrong.
     
  8. anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    I bought ephedrine hcl, not the extract. SND does sell kaizen though which is reputable.

    Let us know how elitenet is.
     
  9. anaconda Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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    Can you expound on that? what kinds of adverse effects are we talking here?
     
  10. Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Anxiety issues, primarily. If a person is genetically prone to them, adrenaline onsets them. For some people too much adrenaline release can also fatigue them as opposed to charge them up. It's not very common, but it has been noted to happen.
     
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    Just got another conformation email WITH a tracking number. Everything looks good.
     
  12. Ian Coe Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    If you take over 10-15mg, that stuff can be bloody aweful.

    2.5-5mg and it seems to work fine for me.

    What issue did you have with SND?

    I ordered from them once (2 lots of 700 10 mg tablets and 200 EC doses)
     
  13. Ian Coe Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    That makes sense.


    I bought some 1g yohimbe tablets standardized to 2.5%.


    I felt aweful and couldn't complete a run. Head ache, nausous, just terrible
     
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    I just got done doing a 12 week EAC stack. I used a supplement called yellow power that has Ephera alkaliods and caffeine and then I took a 81mg asprin with it twice a day. I lost 15 lbs. and felt great on it. It brought my workouts to a new level. I even checked in with my doctor twice and told him what I was doing and he did a full work up. I don't like taking alot of supplements beacause of the "Proprietary Blend".
     
  16. Hotdog666 Blue Belt

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    I got the 8mg of Kaizen Ephedrine hcl without the guaisenifin (sp?).

    I took ONE 8mg tab and I felt like shit. It was strange. Like I was sick without the symptoms. I know it makes no sense, but I def felt bad.

    But I dont think Ill be trying that stuff again. Pissed me off. I really wanted to get the benefits from this stuff.
     
  17. ephedra White Belt

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    No, Ephedrine Alkaloids which are the active ingredients in the original formulas of Ephedra, Ma Huang and Sida Cordifolia have never been made illegal. FDA approved ephedrine to be used as a nasal decongestant, bronchodilator and traditional Chinese/Indian Ayurbeda medicine. There are a few other uses which the FDA has approved it for. New formulas which you see nowadays use Ephedra Extract and have no ephedrine alkaloids content at all. It is a new scam as they are basically ephedra free marketed as having Ephedra to mislead. It's the same as selling Coffee and in the ingredients profile stating Coffee 25mg (ground beans) 0% caffeine. Most people will see Coffee and will miss the 0% caffeine part. This is the exact trick the fake ephedra manufacturers/sellers are employing to make a quick buck. Fake ephedra extract is loaded with caffeine and cheap stimulants such as PEA (phenylethylamine) and it's derivatives. It will give the energizing and stimulating effect (a 2 to 3 hour high) but only the ephedrine alkaloids and caffeine combination has been scientifically proven to burn fat and raise metabolism. A good article on how to distinguish real ephedra, ma huang and sida cordifolia with ephedrine alkaloids and the fakes called Ephedra Extract can be found at the link below:

    Ephedra Extract vs. Alkaloids — Real Ephedra

     

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