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Crime Enslaved on OnlyFans: Women describe lives of isolation, torment and sexual servitude

I’ve also been very vocal about the pay to win game model and think that should be illegal as well.
Why should it be illegal when more destructive industries like alcohol aren't?
You can find plenty of examples online of where these simps are lead on by some of the women in only fans, and I don’t think it’s fair to hand wave that away. They directly manipulate these guys and keep them in the hook hoping that one day they might have a chance.
They're paying to be lead on, part of what you're getting with OF is a parasocial relationship you don't get with free porn which is what they'd settle for if all they wanted was to fap.
You’re not going to get me to agree that alcohol belongs with this group. Theres a few problems with that study you linked but I really don’t feel like getting into the weeds right now. but to compare it to the more predatory women on only fans isn’t really the same thing anyways.
Of course not, alcohol is normalized so you take it for granted even though its far more destructive than OF.
The distillers making the product aren’t out there trying to coax alcoholics into the store to buy their products. They’re not DMing them and leading them in to something. I think that matters.
They do though, its called advertising.
 
Why should it be illegal when more destructive industries like alcohol aren't?

They're paying to be lead on, part of what you're getting with OF is a parasocial relationship you don't get with free porn which is what they'd settle for if all they wanted was to fap.

Of course not, alcohol is normalized so you take it for granted even though its far more destructive than OF.

They do though, its called advertising.
Pay to win games are scams imo. Their half assed shit games that get people stuck into a cycle of constantly paying to keep up with the other players. Gambling is a similar scam where people plate lured in by the illusion that they might win but the truth is there is no reasonable chance of that happening. These things are not necessarily more destructive than alcohol but that’s not the problem I have with them. The problem with them is that they’re just ripping people off without producing anything.

I got the point of your comparison a couple of posts back and no I am not making the mistake of alcohol being normalized and failing to grasp that. They’re very different things. You’re treating it as if there is no positive side to alcohol but there is. A lot of people get a lot of enjoyment out of it and a lot of people have fun socializing with it. The advertising thing doesn’t work either because what OF users are not just doing normal advertising. These are bad comparisons.

I do t think you can honestly say the same thing for only fans. What’s the positive here? A momentary rush the guy gets when he gets a little bit of attention? That’s worth all the manipulation, depression, sex trafficking and exploitation of the models too that goes on?

I’m not anti porn. I truly see this as a different thing and I think it’s entirely cancerous for everyone involved
 
Pay to win games are scams imo. Their half assed shit games that get people stuck into a cycle of constantly paying to keep up with the other players. Gambling is a similar scam where people plate lured in by the illusion that they might win but the truth is there is no reasonable chance of that happening. These things are not necessarily more destructive than alcohol but that’s not the problem I have with them. The problem with them is that they’re just ripping people off without producing anything.

I got the point of your comparison a couple of posts back and no I am not making the mistake of alcohol being normalized and failing to grasp that. They’re very different things. You’re treating it as if there is no positive side to alcohol but there is. A lot of people get a lot of enjoyment out of it and a lot of people have fun socializing with it. The advertising thing doesn’t work either because what OF users are not just doing normal advertising. These are bad comparisons.

I do t think you can honestly say the same thing for only fans. What’s the positive here? A momentary rush the guy gets when he gets a little bit of attention? That’s worth all the manipulation, depression, sex trafficking and exploitation of the models too that goes on?

I’m not anti porn. I truly see this as a different thing and I think it’s entirely cancerous for everyone involved
You're justifying alcohol because people get enjoyment out of it? You don't think people get enjoyment out of free to play games or OF?

Gimme a break with this positive side of alcohol nonsense, its a poison that destroys your body and is linked to other serious social ills like drunk driving and violent crime. Its absolutely absurd to clutch your pearls over OF and free to play games while defending the far more destructive force in our society. Something like ~90k people die annually from alcohol related causes in the US, how many do you think are dying from OF or free to play games? I'd bet my account its less than 90k.
 
I didn't mention 1 single thing about islam.
I mention countries with worst anti-women policies.

Make what you will of it.
I assumed the topic was if slutiness, high class hoedom, the vagina devil ends civilization or how much it harms them.
 
You're justifying alcohol because people get enjoyment out of it? You don't think people get enjoyment out of free to play games or OF?

Gimme a break with this positive side of alcohol nonsense, its a poison that destroys your body and is linked to other serious social ills like drunk driving and violent crime. Its absolutely absurd to clutch your pearls over OF and free to play games while defending the far more destructive force in our society. Something like ~90k people die annually from alcohol related causes in the US, how many do you think are dying from OF or free to play games? I'd bet my account its less than 90k.
Get outraged if you want but your making equivocation where there isn’t. That’s being generous too since I’ve already chosen to ignore the fact that it’s a pointless what about argument.

I’m already fairly certain that the story in this thread is the top of the iceberg. In the next 5 years or so we will probably hear all kinds of seedy and illegal shit that’s gone on in
 
Get outraged if you want but your making equivocation where there isn’t. That’s being generous too since I’ve already chosen to ignore the fact that it’s a pointless what about argument.

I’m already fairly certain that the story in this thread is the top of the iceberg. In the next 5 years or so we will probably hear all kinds of seedy and illegal shit that’s gone on in
I'm not equating them, alcohol is obviously a greater evil than OF or free to play games.

I don't doubt seedy stuff will happen on OF but sex trafficking is already and as this story shows we already have the tools to address that.
 
I'm not equating them, alcohol is obviously a greater evil than OF or free to play games.

I don't doubt seedy stuff will happen on OF but sex trafficking is already and as this story shows we already have the tools to address that.
Well you did. You took issue with me saying that some of these women were guilty and doing a bad thing by scamming these sad sacks out of their money and were like “bro alcohol”. You also compared their manipulative methods to regular ass advertising. It’s not a good argument. These people are not absolved of guilty because alcohol is bad for you. Nor is this service lacking in its own destructive qualities. Nor are those things not a scam because alcohol is bad for you.
 
Well you did. You took issue with me saying that some of these women were guilty and doing a bad thing by scamming these sad sacks out of their money and were like “bro alcohol”. You also compared their manipulative methods to regular ass advertising. It’s not a good argument. These people are not absolved of guilty because alcohol is bad for you. Nor is this service lacking in its own destructive qualities
No one is being scammed here, they're paying for a subscription service and getting it. As far as predatory, destructive businesses go OF is a nothingburger compared to not only the alcohol industry but also gambling and pay day loans. But those businesses don't offend our sense of sexual propriety and they're more stablished so they generate less outrage.
 
I never understood the appeal of Onlyfans. Porn is free.

Access to "everyday" people. There's something about seeing the girl likely to be your neighbor or co-workers, classmate, chick at the gym naked.

Either way, for all the porn that's consume, at least you're not getting a tax base out of it.
 
Access to "everyday" people. There's something about seeing the girl likely to be your neighbor or co-workers, classmate, chick at the gym naked.

Either way, for all the porn that's consume, at least you're not getting a tax base out of it.
* are getting a tax base out of it
 
No one is being scammed here, they're paying for a subscription service and getting it. As far as predatory, destructive businesses go OF is a nothingburger compared to not only the alcohol industry but also gambling and pay day loans. But those businesses don't offend our sense of sexual propriety and they're more stablished so they generate less outrage.
So that's been the whole thing. You named a bunch of other shitty industries and I was like "well yeah I think those are terrible too" except I disagreed with alcohol. You really latched onto that one because I guess it presented a hole in my stance. Now you just snuck another one in there too with payday loans. Guess what I am going to say about that? Yeah, not a fan and I don't think they should be allowed to exist the way they do now.

OF doesn't offend my "sexual propriety". I don't know why you have decided that that is my issue with it. I don't have a problem with porn. I don't even really care about prostitution as a concept. Yes I do have a problem with the amount of abuse in coercion goes on in them but the act and what they're selling I don't have an issue with. I have a problem with the predatory nature of it and all of the other ones you listed.
 
Access to "everyday" people. There's something about seeing the girl likely to be your neighbor or co-workers, classmate, chick at the gym naked.

Either way, for all the porn that's consume, at least you're not getting a tax base out of it.
And how many of the people who know her are willing to pay?
 
So that's been the whole thing. You named a bunch of other shitty industries and I was like "well yeah I think those are terrible too" except I disagreed with alcohol. You really latched onto that one because I guess it presented a hole in my stance. Now you just snuck another one in there too with payday loans. Guess what I am going to say about that? Yeah, not a fan and I don't think they should be allowed to exist the way they do now.

OF doesn't offend my "sexual propriety". I don't know why you have decided that that is my issue with it. I don't have a problem with porn. I don't even really care about prostitution as a concept. Yes I do have a problem with the amount of abuse in coercion goes on in them but the act and what they're selling I don't have an issue with. I have a problem with the predatory nature of it and all of the other ones you listed.
Alcohol is probably the most destructive industry of them all and OF among the least. In fact America would be better off if all the money spent on alcohol was spent on OF instead.
 
Why should it be illegal when more destructive industries like alcohol aren't?

They're paying to be lead on, part of what you're getting with OF is a parasocial relationship you don't get with free porn which is what they'd settle for if all they wanted was to fap.

Of course not, alcohol is normalized so you take it for granted even though its far more destructive than OF.

They do though, its called advertising.

There's something to be said about damage caused to an individual and society by both alcohol and only fans simping. Alcohol promotes social interaction and behaviours that lead to bonding and procreation, OnlyFans simping does the polar opposite.

Alcohol is probably the most destructive industry of them all and OF among the least. In fact America would be better off if all the money spent on alcohol was spent on OF instead.

Not much thought went into this ridiculous statement. A country is made out of people that inhabit it, you can't have a country with no people. Porn and paid fake interactions lead to fertility rate collapse everywhere where they are deployed.
 
There's something to be said about damage caused to an individual and society by both alcohol and only fans simping. Alcohol promotes social interaction and behaviours that lead to bonding and procreation, OnlyFans simping does the polar opposite.
Alcohol also promotes violent crime and reckless behaviors like drunk driving which enact a serious toll on our society, far more than whatever OF does.
Not much thought went into this ridiculous statement. A country is made out of people that inhabit it, you can't have a country with no people. Porn and paid fake interactions lead to fertility rate collapse everywhere where they are deployed.
Fertility collapses happen when countries have developed economically and have urbanized their populations. Even Iran has falling fertility rates so somehow I don't think its OF that's to blame.
 
Pay to win games are scams imo. Their half assed shit games that get people stuck into a cycle of constantly paying to keep up with the other players. Gambling is a similar scam where people plate lured in by the illusion that they might win but the truth is there is no reasonable chance of that happening. These things are not necessarily more destructive than alcohol but that’s not the problem I have with them. The problem with them is that they’re just ripping people off without producing anything.

I got the point of your comparison a couple of posts back and no I am not making the mistake of alcohol being normalized and failing to grasp that. They’re very different things. You’re treating it as if there is no positive side to alcohol but there is. A lot of people get a lot of enjoyment out of it and a lot of people have fun socializing with it. The advertising thing doesn’t work either because what OF users are not just doing normal advertising. These are bad comparisons.

I do t think you can honestly say the same thing for only fans. What’s the positive here? A momentary rush the guy gets when he gets a little bit of attention? That’s worth all the manipulation, depression, sex trafficking and exploitation of the models too that goes on?

I’m not anti porn. I truly see this as a different thing and I think it’s entirely cancerous for everyone involved
yeah... comparing porn use to people having a glass of wine with dinner is poor thinking.
 
OnlyFans gives women the chance to earn money by making porn. Sex traffickers also use the platform to abuse and exploit them, say police and prosecutors. The accused range from social media influencers to cash-hungry boyfriends. “I don’t think I’ll ever be fully healed,” said one victim.

By LINDA SO, ANDREW R.C. MARSHALL, LUIZA ILIE and JASON SZEP
This story contains offensive language and descriptions of sexual abuse.
On an August morning in 2022, a young woman slipped out of a house in suburban Wisconsin and dashed to a waiting police car.

Her hands shaking, she told officers it was the “most brave thing I’ve ever done in my life.”

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For nearly two years, her boyfriend had held her captive, prosecutors say. She feared he’d kill her if she tried to leave. But just days earlier, after he’d poured hot grease down her back, she started plotting her escape, secretly messaging family and friends to alert police.

The young woman later explained her desperation to detectives: Almost every night, her boyfriend had forced her to record sex acts on camera to sell online. Among his chosen outlets was OnlyFans, the hugely successful website famous for porn.

OnlyFans says it empowers content creators, particularly women, to monetize sexually explicit images and videos in a safe online environment. But a Reuters investigation found women who said they had been deceived, drugged, terrorized and sexually enslaved to make money from the site. The findings are based on redacted U.S. police complaints and international court files, lawsuits and interviews with prosecutors, sex-trafficking investigators and women who say they’ve been trafficked.

In one prominent case, influencer Andrew Tate, with millions of followers worldwide on social media, is accused of forcing women in Romania to produce porn for OnlyFans and pocketing the profits. He has denied the charges.

Generating less attention are cases Reuters identified in the U.S., where some women endured weeks or months of alleged sexual slavery in ordinary-looking homes in quiet communities. The victim sometimes was a fiance or girlfriend, abused to pad the household budget, fund a couple’s retirement or cover children’s expenses, according to accounts in police or court files. Reuters is withholding the names of women who say they have been trafficked.



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The woman from Wisconsin, now 23, was abused by Austin Koeckeritz, who described himself on a blog as “a business owner, an artist, and a student of psychology.” He’s serving a 20-year prison sentence after pleading guilty to sex trafficking.

“The two years there felt like decades, and I was in pain and alone and ready to die,” the woman said in her first public comments about the case. “I don’t think I’ll ever be fully healed.”

At least two cases detailed in police files involve allegations of forced prostitution. A husband and wife ran a six-state trafficking and prostitution operation before their arrest in a tidy Ohio neighborhood where they were raising two children, prosecutors say. The husband allegedly used OnlyFans to arrange sexual encounters for multiple women and sell porn he ordered them to make. He awaits trial; his wife recently pleaded guilty to related charges.
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These trafficking enterprises relied on intimidation, violence or false assurances of love to press women into porn and keep them producing, say victims and prosecutors. The alleged perpetrators were mostly men – some accused of beating and raping women, others of tattooing their names and faces on their victims. They filmed in private settings, sometimes holding victims captive for a year or more, the records and interviews show.

In a note she hid in the front yard for police the day before they rescued her, the Wisconsin woman said she “was basically imprisoned in this room to keep making money” for her abuser.

On OnlyFans, sex traffickers have a “unique niche” in which to privately conduct their business, said Catheline Torres with the U.S.-based National Human Trafficking Hotline, which helps survivors of trafficking and exploitation. Reuters identified 11 cases of women who told authorities or filed lawsuits saying they had been forced to perform sex acts on OnlyFans. But experts including Torres say the true prevalence of sex trafficking on the platform is nearly impossible for outsiders to assess. The accounts of most content creators are hidden behind a subscription-based paywall, “minimizing the likelihood that they are caught and prosecuted,” Torres said.

Prosecution can also be difficult because fearful or traumatized victims are reluctant to speak up or testify in court.

One woman told a detective her fiance had forced her over months to produce porn for OnlyFans in a suburban trailer park outside Orlando, Florida. She only escaped, she said, because police showed up to arrest the fiance on an unrelated warrant last year. He was charged with human trafficking in her case. But she recanted her allegations months later, and prosecutors dropped the charge.

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She told Reuters that she feared the case might affect her custody of the couple’s young son and still felt “sick” just talking about what happened. “It brings back all the feelings, the emotions – every time,” she said. “The damage is forever.”

OnlyFans did not respond to requests for comment. The company is not charged in any of the cases described in this story.

On its website, OnlyFans says it prohibits prostitution and “modern slavery,” which includes human trafficking and forced labor. It says its moderators review all content on the site and are trained to identify and report suspected trafficking. OnlyFans has led “a focus on safety for people in the adult content space,” CEO Keily Blair said during a panel discussion in March.

Under company rules, creators must have written consent from everyone in their content. But until November 2022, they didn’t have to show that proof of consent to OnlyFans before the platform allowed their content to be posted, according to Blair’s recent statements to a UK parliamentary committee. The company now checks for proof of consent before allowing content to go live, she said.

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I have two jobs. I teach criminology at a local university and my second job is a human trafficking advocate. I teach about how the internet is used to traffick people. You send a nude pic to a guy and he threatens to release unless you do x, y, and z. I go to universities and police departments to educate them on human trafficking.

I came across it a few times during my law enforcement career and didn’t realize it at the time. Rarely does it look like the movie “taken” but in my first week in uniform, we came across that where three guys from Cleveland forced a protitute into a vehicle and then forced her to turn tricks and give them the money. She eventually got a text message to a friend and we kicked in the door and arrested them for kidnapping. Human trafficking only became a crime in the US in 2000. This was 2002 and I had never heard of HT before, so we didn’t know what we were looking at.

Around 2008, we were looking for another dude from Cleveland (they have infested our area for drug dealing) who was wanted for a shooting. We kicked in the hotel door and he went for a gun under the mattress. We got to him before he could get the gun out. Anyway, as we are fighting to handcuff him, I look up and see two young girls-15 years old or so, hiding in the corner. They were runaways from Cleveland and were being trafficked. You can never have an underage prostitute. Under the age of 18, anyone paying for sex with a minor is ALWAYS considered trafficking now. We arrested him for the warrant for the shooting, charged him with drug and gun crimes and that was it. Again, we don’t realize it was trafficking. So that is my goal to educate law enforcement on what trafficking is.

Good thread and OP, as always.
 

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