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He says he is a “cultural Christian”.

That’s not a thing, but it’s cute he tries.
"cultural christianity" is spoken about by philosophers and thinkers alike. why do you say its not a thing man? not looking for a fight here just curious your perspective.
 
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"cultural christianity" is spoken about by philosophers and thinkers alike. why do you say its not a thing man? not looking for a fight here just curious your perspective.
Christian doctrine is founded on the idea that Christ was god and we should worship him or go to hell and be tortured forever. It’s black and white.

If you follow the teachings of Christ but don’t accept Jesus into your heart then you go to hell forever. Cut and dry.
 
Christian doctrine is founded on the idea that Christ was god and we should worship him or go to hell and be tortured forever. It’s black and white.

If you follow the teachings of Christ but don’t accept Jesus into your heart then you go to hell forever. Cut and dry.
that does not in any way answer the question of why you think a cultural christian is not a thing. ive heard this referenced in countless scholarly works. but the last time I heard a reference to it was from jerry garcia who when asked if he was christian said he could not not be, being raised in the west makes you culturally christian. from that answer I knew he had been reading.

anyway it doesn't matter... I was just curious where you were coming from.
 
"cultural christianity" is spoken about by philosophers and thinkers alike. why do you say its not a thing man? not looking for a fight here just curious your perspective.
Your God is nonexistent. I wish that entity was here. It isn't, and no matter how many paragraphs you type to explain how God is there and all powerful and all that it doesn't make it so. It's an arrogant position. You have it figured out and we don't? Because of the sky fairy? I'll stop telling you that God doesn't exist if you stop telling me he does. If you have proof, I will always be here.
 
Your God is nonexistent. I wish that entity was here. It isn't, and no matter how many paragraphs you type to explain how God is there and all powerful and all that it doesn't make it so. It's an arrogant position. You have it figured out and we don't? Because of the sky fairy? I'll stop telling you that God doesn't exist if you stop telling me he does. If you have proof, I will always be here.
is this really a reply to my post man? your post has NOTHING to do with weather or not cultural Christianity is a thing and nothing to do with what I said either.

not even trying to be rude here man..... this just seems so far out of left field.
 
is this really a reply to my post man? your post has NOTHING to do with weather or not cultural Christianity is a thing and nothing to do with what I said either.

not even trying to be rude here man..... this just seems so far out of left field.
Yes, and I apologize for slinging shit. You are a well-centered fella that has pretty much the same views as I do. Take care of the people in your circle. Be kind. Here is the rub........when people interject God or a higher power or any of that, it has stopped being a conversation. It's a pitch. And you are no longer a person talking to me. You are a marketing rep. It's no longer a conversation. You have steered it into your beliefs. It makes me check out, and it's a shame, because I think you have a lot to give.
 
Yes, and I apologize for slinging shit. You are a well-centered fella that has pretty much the same views as I do. Take care of the people in your circle. Be kind. Here is the rub........when people interject God or a higher power or any of that, it has stopped being a conversation. It's a pitch. And you are no longer a person talking to me. You are a marketing rep. It's no longer a conversation. You have steered it into your beliefs. It makes me check out, and it's a shame, because I think you have a lot to give.
thanks for the things you said man. we do share nearly all the same beliefs and find ourselves on the right side of history at this freaking crazy time.


to the rest all I can say is that if you think it's a pitch then that's something you add to what I'm saying that isn't there. I don't even have that charisma or gift and absolutely suck so bad at trying to bring people to Christ that I just simply don't do it. I don't even want to man.


when I speak of God or Jesus or Christianity I am merely speaking about my lived reality.... its not even a belief... its a matter of knowledge and experience. I don't mean to preach... but I'm also not willing to censor every single thing I say (dishonestly I might add) in order to hide that. for me when I used to censor all of that it made me feel like a liar all the time and a pretender and I had to let that go because it was hell.

eventually that experience was worse to me than being castigated or hated or judged or just simply ignored from speaking honestly.
 
thanks for the things you said man. we do share nearly all the same beliefs and find ourselves on the right side of history at this freaking crazy time.


to the rest all I can say is that if you think it's a pitch then that's something you add to what I'm saying that isn't there. I don't even have that charisma or gift and absolutely suck so bad at trying to bring people to Christ that I just simply don't do it. I don't even want to man.


when I speak of God or Jesus or Christianity I am merely speaking about my lived reality.... its not even a belief... its a matter of knowledge and experience. I don't mean to preach... but I'm also not willing to censor every single thing I say (dishonestly I might add) in order to hide that. for me when I used to censor all of that it made me feel like a liar all the time and a pretender and I had to let that go because it was hell.

eventually that experience was worse to me than being castigated or hated or judged or just simply ignored from speaking honestly.
How hard was that? I'll never ignore you. You come from a good place. I appreciate your relationship with God. I have relationships with spirits, past and present in this realm. I really miss them. I'm not gifted or special, I just listen. You ever watch the breeze when it's real quiet? The leaves? That is a higher power.
 
How hard was that? I'll never ignore you. You come from a good place. I appreciate your relationship with God. I have relationships with spirits, past and present in this realm. I really miss them. I'm not gifted or special, I just listen. You ever watch the breeze when it's real quiet? The leaves? That is a higher power.
it was hard just because I was a coward and that feels pretty uncomfortable.

I'm VERY curious about the "spirits" but no problem if its not something to share on the forum.

and yeah... I can relate to the breeze...
 
it was hard just because I was a coward and that feels pretty uncomfortable.

I'm VERY curious about the "spirits" but no problem if its not something to share on the forum.

and yeah... I can relate to the breeze...
Spirits, huh? Think of everyone you have known and cared about that has died. And now think of your last bad decision. I want to have some great reveal. It isn't like that. They are grinding it out just like we are. It doesn't ever stop.
 
how fucking deranged do you have to be to claim Musk is the face of the Christian right ?

Got a single shred of evidence to this claim ?
Christian doctrine is founded on the idea that Christ was god and we should worship him or go to hell and be tortured forever. It’s black and white.

If you follow the teachings of Christ but don’t accept Jesus into your heart then you go to hell forever. Cut and dry.
you have no idea what you are talking about
 
Christian doctrine is founded on the idea that Christ was god and we should worship him or go to hell and be tortured forever. It’s black and white.

If you follow the teachings of Christ but don’t accept Jesus into your heart then you go to hell forever. Cut and dry.
There is no hell in the bible.
 
There’s no hell, period.
The place of punishment and damnation is never called Hell in the new Testament. It's a pagan/Greek concept known as Hades, which if taken literally is an otherworldly darkness in which humans and gods alike can ascend from.

Basically, its just another concept that was stolen from other beliefs and older stories. Much like how the Sumerians came up with 70% of the concepts and stories in the Bible.
 
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